Really to know ????

See what you get.

Then regardless, see about Arizona Consumer protection laws and file as well as BBB and file a complaint.

At the very least he has to respond. Enough complaints they will pull his Business License. All to the good.
 
If you know someone with a set of pin gauges, it would be interesting to see what sizes fit at each end. If the chambers were swollen by excess pressure, I would expect the cylinder to be fatter further forward by most of the amount the chambers are oversized. If you look at the SAAMI drawing, a maximum chamber is 0.462" at the mouth, so it sounds like it is near maximum at the front of the chamber. The minimum at the rear of the chamber, just ahead of the head is 0.4598 and a maximum of 0.4638, so if you're measuring just 0.451" on your brass, I think that's just that the load isn't hot enough to expand the brass back near the head much.
 
Yeah, my eye's somehow skipped that, but he PM'd me to say he won't post in this thread again until it's back and he can see how it's doing.
 
The add on Reeded Custom Guns
Ts little beauty is one of our semi custom guns and is a very special 44 Magnum. It is a 4" 44 Magnum with the interchangeable blade front sight with the gold bead blade. It is finished in an all satin Vapor Honed Black Chromex with satin stainless steel small parts, hammer and trigger. It has had the Positive Performance Package done to it and is super slick and accurate. It has the very popular Gunfighter Grip with a nice set of red and black laminated grips made and fit to it. It is the perfect gun for hiking in bear country or as a back up to a rifle while hunting. The features that have been done to it add up to a bit over $1200. That plus the price of the gun would price it around $2000. It is sale priced at $1195 plus shipping.

This is the Build on this Revolver . The Revolver came back this morning and looks good . Reeder refinish the Revolver and it has a new cylinder . I shot 12 rounds and it shot and ejected OK . At this point I will be shooting it a lot more after I mow the grass ? I see no reason to bitch anymore at this time . We all know it should of been right the first time but things happen and Mr. Reeder made it right . I will e-mail him today and ask just what he has done this time . No one likes to hear his work is not up to par .
But Mr, Reeder was way over the top with his tone . Will I buy again NO

I do thank the members that did give me the support I needed at the time .
THANKS
 
Pathfinder45 I wish I could but no idea how .
I use my I PAD for pictures and will see if I can .
Or you can go to Gary Reeded Custom Guns and the for sale add is still up .
 
Given the unexplainable quirk of multiple firings (30+) with a new gun, then the issue with which the pistol was shipped, I would never order a gun from them.
 
I really think Mr. Reeder may have a mental problem . To answer the phone the day I called like he did was not a great strategy . I sent him an E-Mail this morning no answer . All I said was thank you for making the Revolver Right .
 
Well This will be my last Post on the Gray Reeder Custom Guns mistake .
I sent Mr. Reeder an E-Mail yesterday No answer I called him late in the day No answer .

The Revolver is new now it shoot and Ejects as it should it was recoated and sent back .
I shot some yesterday it shoots great and I feel the Revolver is 100% .

With all the problems I have had with this Gunsmith I am thinking I may sell it and move on .
 
Keybear I may not would sell it. I absolutely would check out the entire thing at this point. I would slug the barrel and measure the slug with a caliper (should be .429 +- .001 or so), while also making sure there were no "skips" while driving the slug through. I would do the revolver checkout in the revolver forum (10 year anniversary one). I would also slug each chamber in the cylinder and check it with a caliper. The chambers should also be fairly smooth. If everything checked out ok, and the fit/finish/action smoothness/trigger is on, maybe keep it if you like it. I know it would be hard to have confidence, and if you can't get past it I would understand. None-the-less, the guy did a fast turn-around on sending it back with repairs. I also sort of understand him not wanting to talk to you because he knows he messed up. It's not an excuse, he should still answer you and face you as talking to you and apologizing may help you feel confident in the revolver, but I can understand that he might be embarrassed.

At the end of the day though, there is no way this thing should have shipped with brass still stuck in the cylinders. I mean everyone makes mistakes, but just the fact that you had to hammer stuck cases out of the cylinder before you even shot it shocks me. I'm willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt, one time, especially when they repair and return as quick as he did for you. But still... shipping a firearm with empty cases stuck in the cylinder is not a "simple mistake" IMO. I don't know, I would understand if you sold it but I'm afraid you'll take a fleecing on it if you're honest and fully disclose.
 
It came back the second time with six fired cases in the chambers . If I do sell it I will use gunsinternational and post the same as my post here . ( my use my first post )
Yes if I sell it I will never get the money back I may offer it in Custom guns and best offer .
 
It seems odd that you could be so disenchanted by a gun that you at one time thought would be so fine. But it happened to me once, so I know the feeling. Thankfully, mine turned out to be a better fit for someone else and I didn't lose any money on the deal. Hopefully you can recover your costs as well. Amazing how something can lose its charm so fast!
 
Pathfinder45 I took a chance on this Revolver when I bought it . If you look on the guns for sale on Reeders Web site the picture is still up (as of today) . It is a very poor picture very dark with zero detail but a very nice list of work done . The Revolver is nice and it shoots very well but I may never get over this gunsmiths BS .

The 44 Mag is the caliber i have shot for over 50 years and I have a lot of them .
I shoot every day if it is not raining (to hard) or I am not sick . I shot some out of a very nice Ruger Tomahawk this morning and a Ruger 4 5/8 old model Super Blackhawk .
 
Keybear. I looked that gun up. Very nice. Sorry to hear you had so much trouble with it. I've met Gary a few times and he is a tad eccentric at times and I've seen him at gun shows when he had one of his grouches on. I'm thinking if that gun works good now, then I'd just as soon hang onto it. Your choice though.

I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 Mag. with 4 5/8" barrel that either came from the factory or someone changed to a standard Blackhawk grip frame. They must have had some very small hands and it's not much fun with full power loads. I've thought about having Gary put the Bisley style frame on the gun But would probably be easy enough I could do it myself. It already has a Bisley hammer so just changing the frame and new stocks should do the trick. It's nice gun when hiking on Mt. Lemmon. People sometimes see bears and a few Mountain lions have been spotted as well. I haven't seen one myself but that .44 with Keith's bullet and load are comforting to have on my hip. I did see one bear on a desert hike but he was way off about a half mile or so. Just watched him with the binocs.
Paul B.
 
Paul B. Just a guess but your Ruger in 44 Mag with 4 5/8 barrel they all come that way in that model . ( have one ) You are correct you need small hands .

Your gun has a round trigger guard and you can put a large frame trigger guard on it but it is oversize just a little and will need fitting
The gun I bought from Reeder is a Blackhawk Frame made in 1979 as a 357 Mag . It is now a 44 Mag with custom Grip frame and Barrel .
 
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Just an update . I have had and shot the Reeder Ruger 44 Mag a bit and it does shoot well . I have had no problems at all with it but still can not really like it . The first time I spoke to Reeder with the cylinder problem I also told him about the screws not tight . When I got the gun back he had glued the screws in I hope I never need to remove one . Kind of sad/funny but he even glued the screw on the grips .
I have the Ruger for sale on two sites and looking at trades if I find something .
It is sad because this gun could be one nice picking gun .
This guy (Reeder) is a total a$$
 
The first time I spoke to Reeder with the cylinder problem I also told him about the screws not tight . When I got the gun back he had glued the screws in I hope I never need to remove one . Kind of sad/funny but he even glued the screw on the grips.
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Wow, that's impressive pettiness on his part. I've seen too many complaints about Reeder to ever consider doing business with him, but that level of "I'll show you!" would be enough to make the decision for me if I were still waffling.

This won't help with the grip screw because you can't get it too hot; but for the other screws, you might be able to loosen them by holding a soldering iron on the screw to soften the glue/threadlocker.
 
Before you sell

Hello Keybear, I really feel for you.
I had a situation once, where the person at the LGS was such a jerk, I thought he may be mentally ill.
This was all caused by me asking to hold the gun before he fills out my permit.
It wasn't an easily obtained model, so I thought long before leaving.

The following conversation became so surreal that when I came home with the gun, I didn't want to touch it. It sat in the safe for 6 months un-used. I eventually got over it, and chalked it up to another jerk in the world. I think being I was there as soon as the door opened, his meds didn't have time to kick in. He did apologize profusely before I left ( I think his meds stated taking effect) , but you can't un-ring a bell. I never went back to that store ( they closed a while later).

Now, that gun is one of my favorites, after letting the "trauma" of the event fade away. Now, I kind of chuckle when thinking of it.

I tell you this short story because maybe this gun will grow on you after the bad experience fades away? Loctite on screws and all. I could always get them out. EVEN if he used red.

Anyway, sorry for your hard time.

Rich
 
I really thank you people I have spent a life time trying to do right with people . I am looking at 71 years of age my life is getting short . I am ok with that my wife and I are going on 50 years this fall . I am still a man just not as much as I once was . I do people as I would like done to me I owe no one and will help anyone . My friends have mostly been older and are gone now I miss them a lot . In the end it is the people that you have lived your life with that count . I thank you for the support I have had dealings with a lot of people the most were good people .
 
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