praetorian97,
I wasn't scoffing at the risk of a mistaken-identity shooting after a self defense incident. I was scoffing at the absolutely stupid statement that the risk of getting shot by a CCW holder is a "MUCH higher of a risk then being mistaken as the bad guy from a cop."
To the best of my knowledge, such a shooting has never happened, even once. Even if it has happened once upon a time (and I'd need to see a link to the news reports if it has), that risk in the real world remains considerably lower than the risk of such a shooting by first responders -- because those shootings actually do happen, as you can see by looking at the news and paying attention.
To be clear: there have been dozens of blue on blue shootings that have happened over the past few years (such as the beatdown you referenced). There have been several incidents where responding officers shot the good citizen CCW person. But there have been no or very few incidents where CCW holders unintentionally shot other CCW holders.
I am not saying such things cannot happen. I am saying that it's ludicrous to say that the risk of a good guy CCW holder getting accidentally shot by another good guy CCW holder is "MUCH higher" than the risk of the good guy getting shot by a law enforcement officer when the actual new reports plainly show the opposite.
It's just another variant of the paranoid "Blood in the streets!" mantra chanted every single stinking time concealed carry laws become more reasonable. Every time the laws change to make it easier for good citizens to protect themselves, paranoid people -- some of them media, some of them police officers, and some of them just gullible ordinary folks -- start saying things like "shootouts over parking places!" or "RAMBO!" or "shooting innocent bystanders!"
It's nonsense. It's ludicrous. And there's no reason to get sucked into repeating such nonsense when a simple look at the headlines (or an in-depth google search) shows you just how nonsensical this nonsense really is.
And that's the part to remember. Lots of myths out there about how dangerous lawful concealed carry really is. The facts are on our side -- but only when we insist on using facts, and refuse to swallow unproven statements without a fact check.
pax
I wasn't scoffing at the risk of a mistaken-identity shooting after a self defense incident. I was scoffing at the absolutely stupid statement that the risk of getting shot by a CCW holder is a "MUCH higher of a risk then being mistaken as the bad guy from a cop."
To the best of my knowledge, such a shooting has never happened, even once. Even if it has happened once upon a time (and I'd need to see a link to the news reports if it has), that risk in the real world remains considerably lower than the risk of such a shooting by first responders -- because those shootings actually do happen, as you can see by looking at the news and paying attention.
To be clear: there have been dozens of blue on blue shootings that have happened over the past few years (such as the beatdown you referenced). There have been several incidents where responding officers shot the good citizen CCW person. But there have been no or very few incidents where CCW holders unintentionally shot other CCW holders.
I am not saying such things cannot happen. I am saying that it's ludicrous to say that the risk of a good guy CCW holder getting accidentally shot by another good guy CCW holder is "MUCH higher" than the risk of the good guy getting shot by a law enforcement officer when the actual new reports plainly show the opposite.
It's just another variant of the paranoid "Blood in the streets!" mantra chanted every single stinking time concealed carry laws become more reasonable. Every time the laws change to make it easier for good citizens to protect themselves, paranoid people -- some of them media, some of them police officers, and some of them just gullible ordinary folks -- start saying things like "shootouts over parking places!" or "RAMBO!" or "shooting innocent bystanders!"
It's nonsense. It's ludicrous. And there's no reason to get sucked into repeating such nonsense when a simple look at the headlines (or an in-depth google search) shows you just how nonsensical this nonsense really is.
dennisrl said:However I have never been able to find that study / article or have any other sources replicate or back it up with fact.
And that's the part to remember. Lots of myths out there about how dangerous lawful concealed carry really is. The facts are on our side -- but only when we insist on using facts, and refuse to swallow unproven statements without a fact check.
pax