Python hunting
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americanworkmule
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I'll safely... put my wife's chihuahuha out as bait.
Art Eatman
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From the FAQs: "Reptiles of concern may be taken by all legal methods used in taking game animals (including shotguns, rimfire rifles and pistols) and legal methods for taking alligators on the water; however, the use of centerfire rifles is prohibited. Reptiles of concern also may be captured with nets and snares but must be euthanized on site.
Any reptile of concern harvested may not be taken out of the areas alive and must be reported to the FWC within 36 hours..."
They seem to run like rabbits from the word "kill" or "killing".
The $26 license fee and the season seem only to apply to state wildlife lands. Otherwise, "Any nonnative species, including reptiles of concern, can be taken on private land throughout the year with landowner permission, and by legal methods for the local area. (Many municipalities do not allow discharge of firearms...)"
Any reptile of concern harvested may not be taken out of the areas alive and must be reported to the FWC within 36 hours..."
They seem to run like rabbits from the word "kill" or "killing".
The $26 license fee and the season seem only to apply to state wildlife lands. Otherwise, "Any nonnative species, including reptiles of concern, can be taken on private land throughout the year with landowner permission, and by legal methods for the local area. (Many municipalities do not allow discharge of firearms...)"
On top of the $26 giving a short season to the WMA's... did ya'll see the requirements placed on the permit holder?
Applicant Requirements:
* Be Florida resident... (Check)
* Possess a valid reptile of concern permit, digital camera and a GPS unit... (Check)
* Have experience capturing wild snakes... (got that too)
* Have experience handling large constrictors... (junior does)
* Have experience euthanizing reptiles... (yep, with shovels, hoes, limbs and guns as well as the occasional axe and stump method)
* Have experience working in remote areas... (sure do)
Permit Requirements:
* Photograph and mark GPS locations of captured snakes... (fair enuff)
* Photograph and describe stomach contents of euthanized snakes... (they will also have the contents of my stomach in the pic)
* File reports with the FWC within 36 hours of capture... (me? Do paperwork?... RIGHTTTTT)
* Make at least five trips each calendar quarter... (asking a bit much there)
* Visit each of 4 wildlife management units at least twice during the year... (I think I will decide where and when I hit the woods...
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No thanx!!!
Brent
Applicant Requirements:
* Be Florida resident... (Check)
* Possess a valid reptile of concern permit, digital camera and a GPS unit... (Check)
* Have experience capturing wild snakes... (got that too)
* Have experience handling large constrictors... (junior does)
* Have experience euthanizing reptiles... (yep, with shovels, hoes, limbs and guns as well as the occasional axe and stump method)
* Have experience working in remote areas... (sure do)
Permit Requirements:
* Photograph and mark GPS locations of captured snakes... (fair enuff)
* Photograph and describe stomach contents of euthanized snakes... (they will also have the contents of my stomach in the pic)
* File reports with the FWC within 36 hours of capture... (me? Do paperwork?... RIGHTTTTT)
* Make at least five trips each calendar quarter... (asking a bit much there)
* Visit each of 4 wildlife management units at least twice during the year... (I think I will decide where and when I hit the woods...
)No thanx!!!
Brent
earlthegoat2
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Couldnt you just "accidently" "stumble" upon one and shoot it legally?
earl, Yes and no... If you are on private land with owner's permission, you sure could hunt and kill them year around. But on the listed WMA's that the hunting permit covers, you could "stumble upon one" and kill it but not with guns when no other game specie is open season. You could wrassle one and break it's neck legally. No legal live transport from the 'glades! from private land, you could get away with live transport so long as you have the "handler's" permit to possess but you must have on sight cage and other requirements. To sell or give it away alive, you must verify the person getting the live ROC is also a permit holder...
Brent
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Art Eatman
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Ah bureaucrats! One group creates a free lunch; the other group messes it up.
From reading the WMA rules, I doubt they'll get many come-back customers. It's likely there will be less participation than hoped for, just to begin with.
Whoever designed this program probably got laid off from the Census Bureau.
When you're begging for people to do you a favor, you don't charge them money. When you have a problem requiring eradication, you don't impose unnecessary or silly restrictions on the method of killing.
While multiple use justifies having seasons, the least hassle to those doing the favor is far more attractive in gaining assistance.
About the only positive result from this program that's reasonably obvious is the interest in hunting snakes and monitor lizards on private lands, if landowners themselves perceive them as a problem. The state is spending the money to publicize--advertise--the issue.
From reading the WMA rules, I doubt they'll get many come-back customers. It's likely there will be less participation than hoped for, just to begin with.
Whoever designed this program probably got laid off from the Census Bureau.
When you're begging for people to do you a favor, you don't charge them money. When you have a problem requiring eradication, you don't impose unnecessary or silly restrictions on the method of killing.
While multiple use justifies having seasons, the least hassle to those doing the favor is far more attractive in gaining assistance.
About the only positive result from this program that's reasonably obvious is the interest in hunting snakes and monitor lizards on private lands, if landowners themselves perceive them as a problem. The state is spending the money to publicize--advertise--the issue.
Art, that pretty much sums it up!
I have watched this very issue with regard to feral hogs. The state don't even require a hunting license for me to eradicate hogs from private lands. But the WMA's are heavily populated and these same hogs leave WMA land to enter private lands. Also, many of our WMA's forbid hog dogs which is hands down more productive than gunning or trapping them.
The state admits these hogs are tearing up the natural eco system but you can only hunt them with the weapons of that season
As for the snakes and private lands... The population is limited, the snakes like privacy (not much of that in south fla.)... Also every few folks is inner city type of varying races that think these ROC's are cool pets so they get scooped up pretty quick. The farmers there are like everywhere... The 3 s's are practiced on any threat to their livelihood
Brent
I have watched this very issue with regard to feral hogs. The state don't even require a hunting license for me to eradicate hogs from private lands. But the WMA's are heavily populated and these same hogs leave WMA land to enter private lands. Also, many of our WMA's forbid hog dogs which is hands down more productive than gunning or trapping them.
The state admits these hogs are tearing up the natural eco system but you can only hunt them with the weapons of that season
As for the snakes and private lands... The population is limited, the snakes like privacy (not much of that in south fla.)... Also every few folks is inner city type of varying races that think these ROC's are cool pets so they get scooped up pretty quick. The farmers there are like everywhere... The 3 s's are practiced on any threat to their livelihood
Brent
Freeze beat u to it....
The recent cold fronts (or is that global warming) did a number on south florida residents, Native and non-native. Finding anything but a pig right about now would be a challenge.
If your in the wild in Florida and you see non-indigenous snake, Iguana or pig KILL IT. If you want to keep the snake skin, eat the pig meat or god forbid roast the Iguana then get a license.
Point being WE DON"T WANT NON-INDIGENOUS SPECIOUS ROAMING AROUND!
That goes for plants and animals.
If you see a python why wouldn't you kill it. Wether you hunting, hiking or fishing. It doesn't belong here.
The recent cold fronts (or is that global warming) did a number on south florida residents, Native and non-native. Finding anything but a pig right about now would be a challenge.
If your in the wild in Florida and you see non-indigenous snake, Iguana or pig KILL IT. If you want to keep the snake skin, eat the pig meat or god forbid roast the Iguana then get a license.
Point being WE DON"T WANT NON-INDIGENOUS SPECIOUS ROAMING AROUND!
That goes for plants and animals.
If you see a python why wouldn't you kill it. Wether you hunting, hiking or fishing. It doesn't belong here.
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golfballshootr
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I guess it would be too much to ask for the bone headed politicians to go play with these little bitty snakes and try to show what they want done with them or to them!!
And think, if they happened to "get lost" in the glades and ended up a snake snack, we'd save all that taxpayer money from having to freight them suckers to Antarctica!
Sorry was just dreaming along there for a minute. Nah, I'll stick to hunting the rattlers, at least I USUALLY get some indication that I have one them politicians......crud, I meant snakes, near so I can put a catch cable on one of them.
And think, if they happened to "get lost" in the glades and ended up a snake snack, we'd save all that taxpayer money from having to freight them suckers to Antarctica!
Sorry was just dreaming along there for a minute. Nah, I'll stick to hunting the rattlers, at least I USUALLY get some indication that I have one them politicians......crud, I meant snakes, near so I can put a catch cable on one of them.
Sorry I know I'm on a rant but hurricane Andrew didn't magically release Snakes and other animals into the wild. STUPID pet owners did. People who have Cats, Snakes, Lizards ets, ets... and don't want them anymore release them into the wild, PERIOD. Don't make excuses for these morons.
Before people criticize the snake harvesting program realize they are trying to gather info on the snakes. They need to gather info so they know whats happening and how out of control things are.
If you go into the Glades remember Panthers, Bears and gators along with poisonous snakes and scorpions live there so the Pythons really aren't much more of a threat, to humans. To the indigenous wildlife there are devastating.
Before people criticize the snake harvesting program realize they are trying to gather info on the snakes. They need to gather info so they know whats happening and how out of control things are.
If you go into the Glades remember Panthers, Bears and gators along with poisonous snakes and scorpions live there so the Pythons really aren't much more of a threat, to humans. To the indigenous wildlife there are devastating.
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robhof
I grew up in Fl. and are well aware of their money making ways, the pigs for years were limited to regular game seasons, unless on your own property. Then surprise they started showing up in towns and public parks to destroy the turf, then the state rather than extend the season hired professional trappers and things still got worse, finally they opened up the season, but for a while they were considering a special hog stamp, but that was overturned. Now they have iguanas over-running north central Fl. on the West coast, Nile monitors in the streets of Seabring on the West coast and pythons from the Keys to northern Tampa. as well as a huge pig population. I was actually paid by contractors on the east coast to shoot pigs with a crossbow in new subdivisions; the pigs would come a day or 2 after the landscaper and totally take out all his work. I used to bait for collared doves in my back yard and use a pellet gun for practice, another non-native species.
I grew up in Fl. and are well aware of their money making ways, the pigs for years were limited to regular game seasons, unless on your own property. Then surprise they started showing up in towns and public parks to destroy the turf, then the state rather than extend the season hired professional trappers and things still got worse, finally they opened up the season, but for a while they were considering a special hog stamp, but that was overturned. Now they have iguanas over-running north central Fl. on the West coast, Nile monitors in the streets of Seabring on the West coast and pythons from the Keys to northern Tampa. as well as a huge pig population. I was actually paid by contractors on the east coast to shoot pigs with a crossbow in new subdivisions; the pigs would come a day or 2 after the landscaper and totally take out all his work. I used to bait for collared doves in my back yard and use a pellet gun for practice, another non-native species.
robhof, Also we have the "non-migratory" "resident" mallard ducks... where else can a feller shoot a federally regulated waterfowl specie off season? Also, if the mallard can be proven to be "owned" by a resident, FINE FINE FINE for introducing non-native invasive species.
BTW, sebring is not east or west coast... pretty much center of the peninsula.
The iguana is roaming from the keys to northward.
They are good eating as I hear from numerous sources from Cuban refugees to food related personalities on the tube...
My Cuban buddies call them "tree chickens" or "palm chickens"
Brent
BTW, sebring is not east or west coast... pretty much center of the peninsula.
The iguana is roaming from the keys to northward.
They are good eating as I hear from numerous sources from Cuban refugees to food related personalities on the tube...
My Cuban buddies call them "tree chickens" or "palm chickens"
Brent
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