Purchasing Cap n Ball revolver, need advice!

Squeaky Wheels

JBar4Ranch wrote:

Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced...
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Yesterday as I was cutting the grass and thinking about barrels and balls and arbors I heard a slight squeaking from my mower.

Just about the time that I had solved the question about loose arbors, the front wheel fell of the tractor. Luckily the mowing was just about finished and there is only as small ditch dug in the front yard.

Maybe that is how Newton felt when the apple hit him on the noggin.


Darn - I hate it when that happens.
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Newton also figgered that when the apple let loose from the tree, there were forces acting on the tree roots that tried to pull the tree up and outta the gound - just like that arbor pin.
 
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crstrode
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Newtons Third Law of Physics
Captain Crossman wrote:
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I've had (2) brass framed Colt replicas, pull the arbor out of the frame and destroy the gun, from shooting them- and needed to replace both frames with steel ones.
Arbors don't pull out of a frame from shooting.
Think about it. The recoil goes backwards - not frontwards.
Then there is a feature called a recoil shield. Guess what? They call it that for a reason. Recoil from the cylinder is absorbed by the frame - not the arbor/frame junction. The cylinder floats and is not connected to the arbor - hence, the rearward recoil from firing does not stress the arbor pin.



all wrong- the blast from the gun going off, and friction of the oversize bullet going down the barrel grabbing the rifling, tries to blow the barrel off the arbor, and take the barrel with it- that's why soft wedges are bent in half resisting these forces

if you don't believe it, then remove the wedge and fire your Colt brass frame gun, see where the barrel goes- downrange along with the bullet

or put a firecracker under a tin can on the ground, light it- where does the tin can go ? it doesn't go down- it goes up

your physics statement is only half the equation- yes, the cylinder goes backward and smashes into your brass frame, and probably your frame has ratchet marks in it there, because even the steel frame guns get ratchet marks in them from the cylinder

the barrel tries to go forward when fired

this same friction and blast force, is what stretches topstraps in Peacemakers, Remington brass frame guns, etc.

Eventually the topstrap will crack, or stretch to the point the cylinder will go out of alignment and won't turn easil anymore

the open top doesn't even have a topstrap, the wedge is taking the full force of each shot, which is why the design was abandoned for good in 1872, except for replicas- and was replaced by the Peacemaker by Colt

Buy whatever gun you like and can afford, but don't twist the facts to support your decision to buy an inferior gun, as if it's an equal to a steel framed gun- that's misleading newcomers to this sport

these brass frame guns are only $50 each on gunbroker now, and it's not because they are well built and just as strong as steel.
 
Crazy Captain Crossman wrote:

brass frame guns are only $50 each on gunbroker now
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Please send me all of the $50 cap and ball revolvers you buy on Gunbroker.

I'll pay you $75 each.
 
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Please send me all of the $50 cap and ball revolvers you buy on Gunbroker.

I'll pay you $75 each.
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I'll take some of that.

My search for brass frame found nothing less than $240. And in scanning the 1851's, found:

one at $87 with a buy now of $185

a cased FIE with a starting bid of $50. But, it has a reserve that's probably north of $300 and a Buy Now of $400.

And a Piettta with starting bid of $50, with over 5 days to go on the listing, that more than likely will exceed the $50 in the end.
 
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You guys keep getting sucked in by his line of bull. He knows what he's saying isn't accurate - he's just doing it to get you worked up. Just let it go.
 
3 or 4 of you I will join. CC is an ass. What he is trying to prove I DO NOT KNOW!

He wants a corner on the brassies?

"friction of the oversize bullet going down the barrel grabbing the rifling, tries to blow the barrel off the arbor,", I don't know WHICH pistol he is speaking about, with the "oversized bullet.

I SEARCH for them. I would LOVE to find a BP whether opentop or strapped that the ball fit the bore.

Hawg,

If they have read this far, I think they will believe that even a Brassie can put out a few rounds without self destructing. They did so when needed to fight the Civil War, or whatever name you wish to give it.

Actually, other than CC, I do not believe I have ever read of any REAL problems with brass framed revolvers. I will concede that SOME brass is weaker than SOME steel, but that does not mean that brass used in revolver mfg is scrap, AS CC insists that it is.

Cheers,

George
 
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