spacemanspiff
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wow, you believe what your friend says about it? they 'model'?
mind you all, i'm not saying what these girls do is wrong, but come on, be honest about it. a rose by any other name is still a rose.
Prostitution & Government
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mind you all, i'm not saying what these girls do is wrong, but come on, be honest about it. a rose by any other name is still a rose.
Harley Quinn
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I am not so sure regarding
Redworm said:
Legalizing it will help curb the problem of sexually transmitted diseases, not fuel it.
444 said
This is all perfectly legal here, but then Nevada is a pro-freedom state.
Harley say's
You are saying LV Nev. A major Morman enclave is for open prostitution?
I would like to see some more thoughts on that one. Africa is a prime example and so is Asia. AID's is rampant.
I feel quite a few people would like it to be 'not a police' problem but a medical situation.
Some people feel that Satan is carring this one, so I give it a wide berth.
Major moral issue that is for sure. Most young newly weds are afraid to have sex without protection, they are promiscuous, same way in all generations now it seems. AID's has no bigotry it kills all who are foolish enough not to take it seriously.
Harley
Redworm said:
Legalizing it will help curb the problem of sexually transmitted diseases, not fuel it.
444 said
This is all perfectly legal here, but then Nevada is a pro-freedom state.
Harley say's
You are saying LV Nev. A major Morman enclave is for open prostitution?
I would like to see some more thoughts on that one. Africa is a prime example and so is Asia. AID's is rampant.
I feel quite a few people would like it to be 'not a police' problem but a medical situation.
Some people feel that Satan is carring this one, so I give it a wide berth.
Major moral issue that is for sure. Most young newly weds are afraid to have sex without protection, they are promiscuous, same way in all generations now it seems. AID's has no bigotry it kills all who are foolish enough not to take it seriously.
Harley
AIDs, STDs ?
People come to Las Vegas to party.
The Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authorities own advertising slogan is: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas".
On any given weekend late night, there are dozens of high end dance clubs with thousands of people from all over the world in each one. Ice, RA, Studio 54, The Ghost Bar, Rum Jungle, Skin Lounge................... I hope I am not shocking anyone if I mention that a large percentage of these people end up having sex.
We have various adult film conventions. We have the "Pimp and Ho" party. Along with many other adult activities and conventions.
We also have one of the highest rates of divorce in the world. Lots of people having affairs, or singles out doing what people enjoy doing most. The bars never close.
If STDs were going to be some HUGE epidemic, you would think that it would already be going on.
And NONE of this is prostitution.
BUT, if women were allowed to be overtly paid for this, it would result in an outbreak of STDs ?
People come to Las Vegas to party.
The Las Vegas Convention and Visitor Authorities own advertising slogan is: "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas".
On any given weekend late night, there are dozens of high end dance clubs with thousands of people from all over the world in each one. Ice, RA, Studio 54, The Ghost Bar, Rum Jungle, Skin Lounge................... I hope I am not shocking anyone if I mention that a large percentage of these people end up having sex.
We have various adult film conventions. We have the "Pimp and Ho" party. Along with many other adult activities and conventions.
We also have one of the highest rates of divorce in the world. Lots of people having affairs, or singles out doing what people enjoy doing most. The bars never close.
If STDs were going to be some HUGE epidemic, you would think that it would already be going on.
And NONE of this is prostitution.
BUT, if women were allowed to be overtly paid for this, it would result in an outbreak of STDs ?
Harley Quinn
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444
You are not answering my question. Is it legal in LV???
Harley
You are not answering my question. Is it legal in LV???
Harley
BerettaCougar
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HQ, the fact that Africa and Asia are suffering from any form of STD is not because of the legallity of prostitution, it's because of lack of education, and maybe even the lack of wanting to be educated....
I didn't see your question.
No, it isn't legal in Clark County. They have a vice squad. Although all the standard things like escort services, strip clubs with private rooms, massage parlors, and street walkers exist.
The closest legal brothel to Las Vegas is about an hour drive away in Pahrump. Pahrump has two brothels: Sheri's Ranch, and The Chicken Ranch. They will send a limo for you, you can take a cab, or drive yourself. I lived in Pahrump and worked in Las Vegas. When I was driving to work I was passing a steady stream of limos and cabs going from Las Vegas to Pahrump.
Even in Pahrump, there is nobody in power that is openly "for it". It is just something that is seldom mentioned. But, their taxes pay for the town ambulance service.
Also, I don't know about "Open" prostitution. In the towns I have been in, in Nevada, that have brothels, there arn't a lot of signs and whatnot advertising them. However, the business itself is clearly marked. In Pahrump, they are sort of by themselves at the very end of the road. They are not near other businesses, churches, schools etc. No one is likely to see them, just driving past. They are not hidden, just located off the beaten track. However, they are easy to find, just follow the steady stream of cars. Don't get caught up in the idea that these woman are out walking the streets or working out of their trick's cars. That stuff only exists in places where it is "illegal". However, dispite their laws against it, it exists in every city in the world. Yet another feel good law that doesn't work: just like gun control.
No, it isn't legal in Clark County. They have a vice squad. Although all the standard things like escort services, strip clubs with private rooms, massage parlors, and street walkers exist.
The closest legal brothel to Las Vegas is about an hour drive away in Pahrump. Pahrump has two brothels: Sheri's Ranch, and The Chicken Ranch. They will send a limo for you, you can take a cab, or drive yourself. I lived in Pahrump and worked in Las Vegas. When I was driving to work I was passing a steady stream of limos and cabs going from Las Vegas to Pahrump.
Even in Pahrump, there is nobody in power that is openly "for it". It is just something that is seldom mentioned. But, their taxes pay for the town ambulance service.
Also, I don't know about "Open" prostitution. In the towns I have been in, in Nevada, that have brothels, there arn't a lot of signs and whatnot advertising them. However, the business itself is clearly marked. In Pahrump, they are sort of by themselves at the very end of the road. They are not near other businesses, churches, schools etc. No one is likely to see them, just driving past. They are not hidden, just located off the beaten track. However, they are easy to find, just follow the steady stream of cars. Don't get caught up in the idea that these woman are out walking the streets or working out of their trick's cars. That stuff only exists in places where it is "illegal". However, dispite their laws against it, it exists in every city in the world. Yet another feel good law that doesn't work: just like gun control.
MeekAndMild
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Come to think of it, Harley, open prostitution might actually decrease the spread of STDs if prostitutes were licensed and given regular health exams. It might even curb the epidemic of promiscuity.
All that follows is speculation, but I agree their might be some social utility to the idea.
I've been really surprised since I started to pay attention to the number of sexual partners reported by the women who are involved in the social services agencies of my community. A significant minority, I'd estimate about 30-35% of females under the age of 40 sleep with just about any man who comes along. I'd estimate maybe 60% will perform acts previously thought of as 'sodomy' with people they hardly know. Most who put out for any guy they meet do so primarily in the hope of buying a lasting relationship. This gets pretty pathetic with the ones who believe they can trap men by getting pregnant. Then you see girls with 20-30 'relationships' and three or four kids by different men before they're 21 years old.
They seem to think that sex is somehow going to bind men to some sort of loyalty to them so they get burned time and again. The basic inequity is that men pretend relationships to have sex and women will have sex to get relationships.
If legalized prostitution were introduced men would gravitate toward the sort of business relationship that comes from the sex trade. Women would have to make a hard choice, either turn professional or start finding some other way of attracting and keeping men.
Interesting.
All that follows is speculation, but I agree their might be some social utility to the idea.
I've been really surprised since I started to pay attention to the number of sexual partners reported by the women who are involved in the social services agencies of my community. A significant minority, I'd estimate about 30-35% of females under the age of 40 sleep with just about any man who comes along. I'd estimate maybe 60% will perform acts previously thought of as 'sodomy' with people they hardly know. Most who put out for any guy they meet do so primarily in the hope of buying a lasting relationship. This gets pretty pathetic with the ones who believe they can trap men by getting pregnant. Then you see girls with 20-30 'relationships' and three or four kids by different men before they're 21 years old.
They seem to think that sex is somehow going to bind men to some sort of loyalty to them so they get burned time and again. The basic inequity is that men pretend relationships to have sex and women will have sex to get relationships.
If legalized prostitution were introduced men would gravitate toward the sort of business relationship that comes from the sex trade. Women would have to make a hard choice, either turn professional or start finding some other way of attracting and keeping men.
Interesting.
spacemanspiff
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and if we all registered our guns and had them inspected regularly accidental shootings might decrease as well?
It is a subject that is very similar to the gun control issue as you see by many of the comments.
Does the government's involvement make it safer ?
Does the fact that it is "illegal" actually stop it ?
Is more govenment better or worse ?
Do government agencies or divisions of government agencies exist for the sole purpose of furthering their own existence ?
Possible government taxation of something that happens anyway for free.
States that DON'T have laws against things that are illegal everywhere else including NFA weapons and prostitution.
This is a freedom issue that I think has every reason to be discussed on this board.
Does the government's involvement make it safer ?
Does the fact that it is "illegal" actually stop it ?
Is more govenment better or worse ?
Do government agencies or divisions of government agencies exist for the sole purpose of furthering their own existence ?
Possible government taxation of something that happens anyway for free.
States that DON'T have laws against things that are illegal everywhere else including NFA weapons and prostitution.
This is a freedom issue that I think has every reason to be discussed on this board.
Harley Quinn
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It is a good thread and I have had a good time
But I have to go now.
I still believe in America it is going to be a hard sell.
Back when I was young and my parents were in their teens and 20's, redlight districts were all over.
The ones who don't want it legalized are the prostitutes themselves. You would see the price of sex drop like a stone.
Hormones, you got to wonder LOL...
Harley
But I have to go now.
I still believe in America it is going to be a hard sell.
Back when I was young and my parents were in their teens and 20's, redlight districts were all over.
The ones who don't want it legalized are the prostitutes themselves. You would see the price of sex drop like a stone.
Hormones, you got to wonder LOL...
Harley
It makes good business sense, for starters. It's also a responsibility of the business to keep from knowingly spreading a disease among the general population. Regular STD panels would indeed make a difference.
why would it be?
You sure about that?
MeekandMild: your theory makes good sense but you forget to consider that most girls enjoy having sex just as much as the rest of us.
MeekAndMild
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Not the same thing Spiff. Registering whores is more like registering gunslingers, not guns.
Redworm, sure, girls like to have sex, but they like relationships so much they'll give it up to get married.
Wow
I guess that "Hookers" doesn't have the ring to it that "Prostition And Goverment "do.
I have a lot to learn about posting threads and useing a computer in general.I would like to know how I would take a select piece of someone else's post,get the white background you crafty folk do,and use it as reminder of what that person said so that I could answer it specificly.
Someone did say a page back that a prostitutes income or profession should be subject to taxation like everyone elses.I would like to say that most people who generate income in the U.S. are not subject to income tax.Check out theftbydeception for a better explanation.As for regulation goes it is just another revenue and control scheme for the goverment .Look at the NFA,was it realy about stopping violence or was it about taxing and controling who could legaly purchase specific weapons.
I guess that "Hookers" doesn't have the ring to it that "Prostition And Goverment "do.
I have a lot to learn about posting threads and useing a computer in general.I would like to know how I would take a select piece of someone else's post,get the white background you crafty folk do,and use it as reminder of what that person said so that I could answer it specificly.
Someone did say a page back that a prostitutes income or profession should be subject to taxation like everyone elses.I would like to say that most people who generate income in the U.S. are not subject to income tax.Check out theftbydeception for a better explanation.As for regulation goes it is just another revenue and control scheme for the goverment .Look at the NFA,was it realy about stopping violence or was it about taxing and controling who could legaly purchase specific weapons.
Wildalaska
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I personally think that a toothless crack ho staggering half dressed sexily down the street lends panache to a neighborhood, especially in the daytime outside elementary schools....
WildanythinggoesAlaska
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One thing that is often missed on these on-line discussions is that many of these issues actually exist in the world and we don't have to guess about what they are like.
As has been mentioned: prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada.
None of the girls are obviously toothless: the brothel owner wouldn't hire them and they wouldn't make any money (the whores in most Nevada brothels are independent contractors).
They arn't on crack: see above. Brothels such as Sheri's have a bar, but even their alcohol intake is monitored with a list on a clipboard kept by the bartender (under video survaillence). If a girl gets obviously drunk, she is fired on the spot. This is a business.
They don't walk the streets. And the brothel is no where near an elementry school.
What you are describing is the situation as it exists now outside the state of Nevada.
But why stick to reality ?
As has been mentioned: prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada.
None of the girls are obviously toothless: the brothel owner wouldn't hire them and they wouldn't make any money (the whores in most Nevada brothels are independent contractors).
They arn't on crack: see above. Brothels such as Sheri's have a bar, but even their alcohol intake is monitored with a list on a clipboard kept by the bartender (under video survaillence). If a girl gets obviously drunk, she is fired on the spot. This is a business.
They don't walk the streets. And the brothel is no where near an elementry school.
What you are describing is the situation as it exists now outside the state of Nevada.
But why stick to reality ?
Harley Quinn
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444 I like your tenacity, but your idea in NV.
Now that is like such a small amount of the USofA and what WildAlaska said is like the rest of America inner cities.
You a p*mping this bar like you have a piece of the action.
I can understand your thoughts but what you are talking about, and what we are saying about the 'HO' on the street is like you have One(1) and then there are 10 million bars or more in the rest of usa that is not like that.
It is truly a disgraceful situation in the Inner Cities of America. I sure wish it was as easy as you believe.
I understand in Hawaii it is so bad you can't walk down the street without being approached even if you have a women and kids on your arm.
I don't know about legal or not but it is not in control that is for sure.
To think of how it would be without laws is not something I would care for.
HQ
Now that is like such a small amount of the USofA and what WildAlaska said is like the rest of America inner cities.
You a p*mping this bar like you have a piece of the action.
I can understand your thoughts but what you are talking about, and what we are saying about the 'HO' on the street is like you have One(1) and then there are 10 million bars or more in the rest of usa that is not like that.
It is truly a disgraceful situation in the Inner Cities of America. I sure wish it was as easy as you believe.
I understand in Hawaii it is so bad you can't walk down the street without being approached even if you have a women and kids on your arm.
I don't know about legal or not but it is not in control that is for sure.
To think of how it would be without laws is not something I would care for.
HQ
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