WillyKern69
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CNN bounced my comment. I just put "Hypocrite". I know people here are educated, but how long will the rest of America drink the MSM kool-aid?
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It's showing no comments at all. I bet the majority of them were pro 2A and anti-hypocrite.
And the plot thickens:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ly-s-AR-15-Stunt-Provokes-Giffords-Photo-Leak
I am wondering to what extent Gifford's injuries have impaired her judgement. I am also wondering if Kelly is not exploiting his wife.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...ly-s-AR-15-Stunt-Provokes-Giffords-Photo-Leak
I am wondering to what extent Gifford's injuries have impaired her judgement. I am also wondering if Kelly is not exploiting his wife.
Giffords is attempting to backpedal a bit on this.
In 1994, the mantra was that there was no individual right to own guns, so they could take a few away.
In 2013, the mantra is that there is an individual right, but they could still take a few away.
In 1994, the mantra was that there was no individual right to own guns, so they could take a few away.
In 2013, the mantra is that there is an individual right, but they could still take a few away.
Why is Gabby Giffords shooting Justin Beiber?
On a more serious note, we know that the gun grabbers will do whatever they can to meet their goal. If that means lying and misleading the public, then that's what they have to do. That's what they did to get the 1994 AWB passed, and that's what they're doing now. Can anyone tell me the true definition of Assault Weapon? I didn't think so. They define it by a loose standard of cosmetic differences, but then get the public believing they're banning fully automatic, high powered rifles. Tell me again what the difference is between an AR-15, and a Model 750? Oh yeah, the 750 is usually chambered in a much larger cartridge than the AR. Why is it they want to ban the AR-15 and not the 750? Right...because the AR has a pistol grip.
Having said that, I take what Giffords and Kelly say with a grain of salt. They say one thing, but their actions show something completely different. I personally do not believe they have the same ultimate goals as Feinstein (who just wants that pesky 2nd Amendment to disappear), but they are not our friends. Their crusade today seems to be about the "ease" of obtaining a gun, and standard capacity mags. But those are stepping stones to most anti-gunners ultimate goals.
Sorry about the rant...stuff like this gets me heated.
On a more serious note, we know that the gun grabbers will do whatever they can to meet their goal. If that means lying and misleading the public, then that's what they have to do. That's what they did to get the 1994 AWB passed, and that's what they're doing now. Can anyone tell me the true definition of Assault Weapon? I didn't think so. They define it by a loose standard of cosmetic differences, but then get the public believing they're banning fully automatic, high powered rifles. Tell me again what the difference is between an AR-15, and a Model 750? Oh yeah, the 750 is usually chambered in a much larger cartridge than the AR. Why is it they want to ban the AR-15 and not the 750? Right...because the AR has a pistol grip.
Having said that, I take what Giffords and Kelly say with a grain of salt. They say one thing, but their actions show something completely different. I personally do not believe they have the same ultimate goals as Feinstein (who just wants that pesky 2nd Amendment to disappear), but they are not our friends. Their crusade today seems to be about the "ease" of obtaining a gun, and standard capacity mags. But those are stepping stones to most anti-gunners ultimate goals.
Sorry about the rant...stuff like this gets me heated.
Just lovely how that can't even answer their own question. Sheesh...
I come from a state with the two most recent Governors sitting in prison, so none of this really surprises me at all (Trotter gets a nod). Yes, it's unfathomable, unforgivable, incorrigible, but it's also business as usual.
We need a different approach. Calling these bozos out has never furthered our agenda. I think it actually empowers them and they end up doing more damage. How do you win an argument against a liar?
I come from a state with the two most recent Governors sitting in prison, so none of this really surprises me at all (Trotter gets a nod). Yes, it's unfathomable, unforgivable, incorrigible, but it's also business as usual.
We need a different approach. Calling these bozos out has never furthered our agenda. I think it actually empowers them and they end up doing more damage. How do you win an argument against a liar?
Will Beararms
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Why did gun store sell to him in the first place? Don't they have the right to refuse service to anyone? If you own a gun shop, why on earth would you sell to someone crusading against the right of others to own a gun in the first place? I have seen gun store owners refuse to sell to people before. It's not uncommon.
Will Beararms
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Had the store been mine, in view of what Mr. Kelly has said and done over the last two months in public and in Congress, I would have respectfully declined his business. Now, two perfectly good firearms will probably be destroyed or end up being restricted from law-abiding citizens.
I would liken doing business with Mr. Kelly----taking his money-----as akin to selling a firearm to the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan or the local leader of the New Black Panthers. Both of the aforementioned theoretical buyers might be qualified to buy a gun but I would not sell them based upon principle. In their case the money I received from them would be tainted. I could not in good conscious take money from a man who was attempting to cast a bad light on a legitimate industry for political gain.
This is not a wright or wrong, zero sum argument and you make a good point. It is just a matter of personal choice. My father would not buy certain American vehicle brand due to some of the founder's personal beliefs. I got that. I have had great luck said auto manufacturer's products and the mindset prevalent when the founder was alive is long gone.
It's all good though. I respect your take on things.
I would liken doing business with Mr. Kelly----taking his money-----as akin to selling a firearm to the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan or the local leader of the New Black Panthers. Both of the aforementioned theoretical buyers might be qualified to buy a gun but I would not sell them based upon principle. In their case the money I received from them would be tainted. I could not in good conscious take money from a man who was attempting to cast a bad light on a legitimate industry for political gain.
This is not a wright or wrong, zero sum argument and you make a good point. It is just a matter of personal choice. My father would not buy certain American vehicle brand due to some of the founder's personal beliefs. I got that. I have had great luck said auto manufacturer's products and the mindset prevalent when the founder was alive is long gone.
It's all good though. I respect your take on things.
Last I checked, it isn't illegal for anti-gunners to purchase firearms. Is it the store's right to deny sales to someone? Sure, but I can imagine the backlash from that would have been worse than what they are feeling now. I asked a few questions of some of the workers there, and they aren't allowed to tell me anything. Personally, I'm glad they sold him the gun. It has worked against Mr. Kelly and his crusade.
On a side note, there's a new sign at that particular gun store prohibiting any kind of photographs or videos.
