Poor girl at the range (Funny. Or not?)

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One more thing. I personally think that some owners of gun stores / ranges crap all over "reloads" because they want to scare (or often force) patrons into buying their ammo. But, if you EVER try to pick up your range brass, watch how p.o'ed they get.

Hmmmm, wonder what all those range owners who won't let you shoot reloads do with all of that range brass???
 
yeah, id feel bad if i got cheated out of my $200. esp since for a few dollars, ok maybe $50 more i could have gotten 1k factory. and yeah, that girl will probabbly never shoot again
 
YIPES!!!!!!!!!!! Not supposed to shoot reloads? Reckon I gotta quit shooting then! Now I gotta find a place to dump all this crappy ammo I have. Dang it!
 
It ain't what you do it's the way what you do it.

I agree that reloaded ammo from an unknown source can be suspect. But piling on the horror stories doesn't help.
There were many directions you could have taken the conversation. You chose the wrong one.
 
It ain't what you do it's the way what you do it.

I agree that reloaded ammo from an unknown source can be suspect. But piling on the horror stories doesn't help.
There were many directions you could have taken the conversation. You chose the wrong one.

I agree, the OP handled this poorly then gloats here. I don't see anything funny about it at all. :mad:



...she was so proud that she go a 1000s of reloads at the gun shoot in an ammo can.
Anybody deciphered this yet?
 
Way to give completely horrid info to a new shooter with absolutely ZERO info on what she was shooting. All I shoot is reloads. I've bought bulk reloads from a "custom" ammo reloader that is here in Iowa nad reload myself. Never had an issue. You had no idea where the ammo came from and made a blanket statement that it must be bad. Sent her away in tears did ya? Good for you.....not!

I really do hate self appointed range sheriff's.

LK
 
I do believe there are times people should just mind there own business. The whole thing stinks ,why ruin everything for her:(
 
You didn't resize the brass?
No case trimmer?
Bad Skans!

Resize the brass - yes.

Case trimmer - no. (wouldn't have mattered much, the area of the case where it's necked down was generally bulged.) One thing I would note, I do recall measuring the over all length of the brass. The problem, I believe, was where the brass was bulging and the resizing dies weren't pressing it completely back in shape.


Bad - no, not bad....if you saw what I was doing (many years ago) it was beyond idiotic.:D However, I since have acquired a great respect for Remington 700's.....and I no longer do my own reloading. Sold the 22-250 years ago and the dies along with it.
 
I dunno, to OP's credit, he could have saved her life when she chose not to shoot self dectructo reloads that could have possibly killed her when she went home crying and poured all that ammo down a storm drain
 
THAT kind of attitude is why i shoot at the gravel pit on a buddy's land. I recently found that there is a range available in my area, but this kind of story makes me think that the high-walled gravel pit would be a more user-friendly shooting environment for me (20ft red clay walls lack gravel). I'm not discounting the value of your opinion on reloads in the least, just your communications skills.

Thanks for saving me the range fees.
 
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Anybody deciphered this yet?

I THINK he meant she had 1000 rounds in an ammo can. Either his typing or command of the English language is poor.

Sounds like Georgia Arms "Canned Heat" to me. Good ammo. I've shot 3,000 rounds of this stuff in 9mm, 2,000 in .40 S&W, and my wife is working on 1,000 in .357 SIG. No problems so far...

It's hard to stay in this thread without getting into personal remarks about the OP. I'm outta this one.
 
lots of unwanted advice..

..comes my daughters way, and it is not funny. She is 17 and has been shooting with me for years, yet some guy always has to come over and tell her how to hold the gun or how to stand. At first she got bummed out because she thought she was doing something wrong until she started watching everyone else doing things differently, now she just smiles at me and shakes her head as the latest "wannabe instuctor" is off to find his next victim. She has pointed out that a few of them didn't seem to know what they were doing either so were probably offering her the tiny bit of information they recently got off google. If someone is doing something dangerous - they need advice, otherwise I don't bother them unless asked.
 
As a relatively new shooter, I sympathize with the girl who was learning how to shoot. I hope she sticks with it, and $200 is a good bit of money to a college kid like me. Most of my ammo is from Atlanta Arms, and it works well for me.
 
I've also fired a few thousand rounds of reloads

A lot of Georgia Arms (go figure, I live in NW GA), and have had no problems.

The only ammo problems I have ever encountered have been misfires with bulk factory .22LR, and a squib with a FACTORY SD load. While this is unusual, that's been my experience.

Without more information given as to the reloads the girl was using (IE were they showing signs of corrosion? obviously bad crimps? mix of all different brass? - or were they from somebody reputable, but sold in bulk?) it's hard to say whether the advice given by the OP and his shop buddy had any validity to it.

It's pretty easy to say that his attitude both in the way he claims to have presented it to her, and in the way he presented it to us, is offensive. I see plenty of sad, and nothing at all of funny in that situation.
 
Not funny...

But I am along the same lines on gun show reloaded ammo. I might trust those brand names stated above if at my gun shop but not likely at a gun show. I barely trust factory ammo unless it's the expensive premium stuff which I then reload.

Most of the folks at gun show booths remind me of 'carnies'. They have no overhead (I paid that to get in), they almost always sell stuff higher than my gun shop,
and many times they have told me down right silly stuff about merchandise or a firearm I'm looking at. I let it slide most of the time and just move on because I have nothing to gain.

If the young lady had a Branded reload container maybe I would have suggested to confirm each shot before pulling the trigger again. You know, no double taps just on that rare chance of squib.

Anyway it makes me sad the young lady left unhappy. I hope it doesn't discourage her.:(
 
From Elvishead:
I had to see this gun I never heard of, it was an XD40. I said I shoot 9mm because it's cheaper, she was so proud that she go a 1000s of reloads at the gun shoot in an ammo can.

I told her the bad news, and the range master backed me up and told them a few horror story's.

Her jaw just dropped, because I'm sure she paid $200 or more for this ammo.

Poor girl, she quit shooting it and left almost in tears.

So at the "gun shoot" she bought some reloaded ammo for her new piece. The important piece of information that we are all missing here is this...who reloaded the ammo? This is important because decent reloaded ammo from quality reloading outfits can be had at gun shows. Bad reloads from a bubba can also be had. Elvishead don't explain how he knows the difference, so in this case we don't know either.

We do know that Elvishead thought so much of this minor incident that he posted here to tell us he had brought a new shooter "almost to tears". There is a lesson here for us...Avoid Elvishead at the Range!

tipoc
 
If anyone asks my opinion at the range (or anywhere else), I'll share it. If not, I smile and keep my mouth shut.I seem to recall something about "Silence is golden."
 
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