Police trade ins

I told my friend, Life is a continuous change.
He sad .....life is a bitch, and than we die.
Now I'm saying, that SIG ARMS makes different model p226 for the Army, than for the Navy Seals...for example, among other things, stainless coated slide, different coating on the inside parts.

While there has been some variation in Materials, QC, and coatings in Sig Sauer's American made pistols over the past few years for some contract customers, the "military" versions are now available for purchase over the counter (mk25), the details you are adding in are gun store counter embellishments at best. Sig certainly didn't do this for everybody either. It was by request. Sig has also trended back to using same parts, QC, and finishes for their commercial guns as well. The mk25 is largely a marketing job where you pay more for an anchor and a few more coated internal parts so you can infiltrate submarines or something.

Honestly, knowing a bit about how Sig fulfilled LE and Mil orders over the past decade and a half, you probably were looking at guns that were a hodgepodge of German and American parts, or were certainly older guns while Sig's American branch went through their Global parts sourcing and overal cheapening phase....

I'm not sure where you are going on the P239 track either. They have always been a stainless slide with various finishes used. Also, since when does the Army buy the P226???? Anyways, you probably should stop back pedaling.


As far as police trade ins, they can have the brakes beaten off of them, they can be rough outside and mint inside, or they can be essentially unissued and LNIB. If you write them off wholesale, you are limiting yourself and looking silly to the people that know better. A lot of depts buy way more guns than they need, or change them out every few years because they are budgeted to spend my tax dollars willy nilly. There are also a lot of politics and personal preference,and even graft involved with depts switching all of the time. What is the fashionable cop gun today becomes an anchor and liability the next (DAK sigs and similar HK's for example). Also, factory support also dictates when depts change. (Third gen smith users for example). Large departments have in-house factory trained armorers that are capable of maintaining the guns and keeping them free of the dangerous sweat, vomit, or whatever else you are scared of landing on the gun. Which are also hazards that not all cops will encounter. Detectives, supervisors, admin, FTO's etc will not be swimming in sweat or vomit typically. And sweat will not kill a Glock or M&P beyond the springs that at half-asleep armorer can replace. I don't suggest buying these guns if you don't like them, but there are some awesome deals in cop-land guns. Especially if you like the DA/SA guns going out of style like third gen smiths, berettas, and sigs. If you can find any vomit on them, I'll send you a few boxes of ammo. But the point I am trying to make is that ex cop guns range in quality and condition for a number of reasons. Most are on the right side of fine.
 
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This isn't a bad deal either; $309 + appx $15 shipping.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=2303&name=Glock+22+.40cal+Handgun+Gen+3

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militant Where are the best sites for police trade ins?

There are several good sources.

The market runs from dry to flooded, so you never know what you'll have on the market at any given time.


Usual suspect I like are:

Summitgunbroker
Topgunsupply
Buds
Cdnn
Aimsurplus
Jgsales
Century (must have a dealer account)
CDisables on gunbroker (mainly beat to hell Israeli police guns)

And then there are local dealers that get them from replacing local depts on bids for new guns.

They are around
 
I have not and police trade-ins are likely something I would never buy. along with range rentals they are quite simply, guns that are issued to a lot of people that know nothing about guns, don't maintain them, are required to shoot them, and often times are covered in sweat from being carried around all day. I have no problem getting a used gun but something that's had the brakes beat off it for it's entire service life just does not interest me at all.

I worked Law Enforcement Sales for 6 years, and some of the best deals I've seen came through the shop are trade ins. Even the ones that were available after the officer buy backs were completed were nothing to ignore. I'd say go for it for sure.

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My Gen 2 G21 was a police trade-in from the local police supply store, and it had the typical carried-much, shot-little look to it. Fifteen years later, it's still a great shooting gun.
 
I have not and police trade-ins are likely something I would never buy. along with range rentals...
One of the guns I shoot the most is a Glock that started out life as a range rental. I bought it when the range closed. You have to look them over carefully as you would any used gun, but if you know what you're doing and what to look for, they can be a great deal.
 
My first auto was a p229 police trade in. It was ordered in sight unseen from either cdnn or j&g...can't remember which. It came in the original box and tagged around the grip with the factory sig wrap. It was in excellent shape with only a little white metal showing on sharp edges, and no noticeable wear elsewhere.
I wish I'd ordered more. The LGS owner warned me when I ordered that it would probably be junk, then after I picked it up he ordered several for his case.

The second police trade in gun I ordered was a c75 pre b, from robertsons trading post. Another great gun though showing considerably more holster wear. I knew that before purchase, thanks to great pictures.

My cz82 and p64 were likewise in great shape for surplus guns.
 
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sigh* very well, I have been overpowered and overquoted;)
I shall recant my statements about LEO trade-ins.

don't get used to it, I'll still be bull headed and ready to argue over stupid stuff tomorrow.

:D
 
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I bought a P6, S&W model 10, S&W 3904, 2 S&W 3906's, 3 5906's and all were police guns, they were some of the best and best priced guns I have ever picked up. Like most have said, some of them come with some holster wear but the internals look great. After a good cleaning they look even better, I often will order new grips (S&W), recoil spring and some mags or new mag springs while I'm waiting on the gun to arrive and chang them out and then it looks and functions like new. I think its hard to go wrong with one.
 
Well, I chimed in back on page 1, but having spent some part of yesterday afternoon at a regional gun show, I'll simply add here that I came across 3 S&W 6906s on one table, one of which I picked up and examined. Two, including the one I looked over, were represented to be former Sheriffs Office guns, the third was being unloaded from the table-holder's private stash.

The 6906s all looked about the same externally: some scuffs/wear marks on the slide, with wear on the grips. The one I looked at had a shiny barrel; of course, the dude behind the table could have run a bore snake thru it, who knows? Still, areas like the breechface, the extractor and the ejector all looked clean and GTG. Plus this one had Novak-style Trijicons. These guns were all priced in the $360 range but with 3 of the same model on the table you could sense he would deal.

I passed on the one I inspected since I'm not really in the market for a 9mm, but it looked to me like a solid example of a 90% 3rd Gen DA/SA Smith, now retired from duty use with the S/O.
IOW, lots of life still to go.

At least in my area, the market is soft right now for most everything that goes bang, and a lot of stuff, especially NIB guns and about everything AR-related, just isn't moving. Same for 5.56/.223 & 7.62/.308 ammo.

Anyway, at least with these used cop guns, there are certainly "steals" to be had.

Just what I know ...
 
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I have had (3) Glocks for 16 years; G19 9mm, G22 40sw, and G20 10mm.

If I were a cop with open carry, my first choice would be a G22 in 40sw.

But I am not a cop, just some guy that collects guns and has concealed carry permit.

I have not and will not concealed carry one of those big Glocks. I would rather share a bathroom with my mother in law than share the inside of my pants with one of those big boat anchors. I carry a 380 that weighs 11 ounces with laser, pocket clip, and 7 round of 90 gr Gold Dot 1100 fps. I carry it in my shirt pocket and I can't even feel it is there.

But the Glocks really are a lot of function for the money.

The current deal out there amazingly cheap.
 
"What you are seeing my hard headed Hugarian friend is the decline in Sig quality from 2007 to 2014."

You are right Mr. Sig, they are doing very sloppy work.
Yesterday I was cleaning my new Sig P239, because I'm planing to try it out. As I was wiping it, felt something rough. Heavy burr from milling. Now I'm really disappointed.



 
Actually, BOTH schools of thought on police trade-in guns can be correct ("beat to death"....and "carried much/ shot little"). I've seen both on the many police trade-in guns I've had (and that friends have had). So, the REAL question is, is the individual gun in question worth the "risk" in terms of the purchase price and condition. That is a decision to be made by the individual purchaser.

I, myself, have had many.....and would not hesitate to purchase, as long as the gun in question passes a close inspection and basic function test. As long as the frame, barrel, slide, etc. are OK and the gun shows no extreme wear issues during a function test, then every other part can be replaced.....and the gun essentially "rebuilt". I consider that eventuality (and the cost of doing so), every time I acquiring ANY used gun. That calculation should, in my opinion, be folded into the overall consideration of whether the purchase is "worth it".

For example, in some cases it may be more expensive to buy and "rebuild" an old police trade-in than the cost of a new, comparable model.

As for a Glock, since they are so easily worked over.....I would not hesitate as long as the frame, barrel and slide show no real issues and as long as the slide rails are not excessively worn (easily determined by visual inspection). Every internal part on a Glock can be replaced for $100 or less and little effort...so a bargain-priced trade in Glock is a very good prospect for restoration to "almost like new" (other than obvious external wear) condition.
 
Buds has some complaints on the condition of these runs of traded in police guns.

They just had a run of 9mm italian berettas they were selling for great prices but the conditions got worse as the sale went on according to the complaints in the comments threads and those berettas came with only one mag that required the classic european bottom release.

Price for those berettas were awesome though.

You have to be realistic that these guns may be very rough.

You must inspect your gun at the ffl when you receive it thoroughly before you take it away.

Buds now has a restocking fee for guns refused-you need to be aware of that too.

That said,I just bought new handgun from them and have had great service from buds.

I like what some others have said though- nothing beats seeing a used gun in person before you buy it.
 
Somewhere on the first page I read someone's coment on some guns like the S&W M&Ps being too new to be out as police trade-in.

In all honesty that is not always the case, back in the mid/late 90's a pretty good size police department in South California had a very relaxed policy on carry policy. Pretty much any well made and full size semiautomatic in 9mm, .40S&W or .45 was fine. I remember seeing everything from Beretta 92 FL to Ruger P90.

They had a Police Chief change and we'll the guy decided to make everyone carry a standard pistol. His personal favorite was the H&K .45, so it was issued to all. At that time the H&K USP .45 had only been out for a couple of years.
some months later many, if not all female officers were having a hard time with them due to its size.
At that time the armorer recommended the Glock 17 and 19 and well a bunch of like new H&K 45 went out the door. Nothing wrong with them just lightly used.
 
I've had a bunch of them, and they all shot fine, some looked a lot better than others though. My first one was from Bud's, an S&W 4568(?) was very rough on one side, looked like it was slid on a sidewalk, it had parallel scratches on it. I sold it a couple years ago for quite a nice profit. The next one was an S&W 4506, from someone on Gunbroker that had dozens of them, ranging from ones like mine in almost new condition, to some rough ones that went really cheap. After that came an S&W 5906, again in almost new condition, from the Puerto Rico Territorial Police. A 6906 came next, has some kind of tag on the box that says, "Issued 4/4/2003, returned 12/31/2011", it's not as pretty as the other two, but it shoots great. I have a couple of the "Mossad" Tanfoglio guns, and a Star 30I that seems to be a department trade in from Israel. The Star appears to be NIB and totally unused.

I have no fear about buying them at all at this point.
 
I just recently got one of those Israeli CZ75's also. It has a few worn spots, but shoots great. It's now my favorite 9mm.

My FiL bought one of the Italian Beretta 92 police trade-ins after Thanksgiving. I think he gave $259 for it. His expectations must have been sky-high, because he was very POed when it arrived and the finish was quite worn in a few spots. Then we went shooting. After putting several boxes of 9mm through it he fell in love and stopped complaining. :)

I have bought several new handguns from Bud's, and they were all shipped within 24 hours.
 
Not a lot. Years ago I picked up a Colt Double Eagle Officers in .45 that was a police trade in. I think it was $400 at the time. Holster wear but the insides are nice. I guess Colt Double Eagles are becoming collectible now.

 
nice snag dakota1911, that's sweet! I've never bought any police trade-in handguns (although I've refinished several), but 4 years back I did buy a Mini 14 police trade-in for $390. Kick myself every day for selling it for a smidgen of profit....
 
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