pocket pistol accuracy

I knew [people would disagree].

It is only Repetition over and over that practice make you a better shooter. People repeat and repeat that till it "becomes a truth":eek:

In my experience with the Beretta 92 style pistol or the SAA Revolver I would be able not to practice a Long time and still hit the target if needed.

You see manufacturers have an interest to mke People believe they Need more practice so that they can sell them a ton of ammo.

The whole "get proficient through a lot, a lot of practice" is nothing else then an Marketing Business Gimmick to Lure People ito buying ammo.

Just make accurate guns, but then ammo sales will plunge to the bottom.
 
I found accuracy has to do nothing with practice but all has to do with the gun.
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So we can put a $4000 Cabot 1911 in the hands of a beginner and they will be able to chew out the 1.7 inch X-ring of a Precision Pistol target at 50 yards, one handed?
 
Shooting is a perishable skill, just like any sport, the longer you go between practice the worse you get. The more I shoot the better I get as long as my practice isn't just dump bullets into center mass. Faster follow up shots, better follow through on trigger control, a smoother trigger pull, a faster trigger pull. Some of these are practiced with dry fire, the other requires acualnrounds to be shot. I doubt you could find any professional shooter who thinks they don't need to practice.
 
I no longer believe Shooting is a perishable skill.

Mike 38: tell the novice where the gun shoots and he will get ya the bulls eye. if he does not it's the Browning-Pettersen Actions fault since the 1911 I classified into the "Non accurate guns" section (although 1911 may be the exception however they have an Swinging up and down Barrel which makes the nature of the beast inaccurate).

We are speaking of mass produced Standard guns.
 
Then you have a fundamental misunderstanding of shooting and arguing with you is pointless. I think I'm probably done commenting on anything you say, I have nothing nice to say at this point.
 
The darn Glock type pistol I could never shoot to accuracy. Besides it shot allways low.
TheBeretta 92 style first shot to try were it hits, second shot was bullseye.
The PT 92 has really very good 3 dot sigths. Back is black 2 dot and front sigth is stainless red dot.

Same with the SAA revolver but that sigth is more a guesswork since it is a half moon front sigth (to be filed down to the individual load. I put there a dot of clothing paint on the front half moon sigth. Its oldtimer sigth but anyways better than the SD9VE sigths.
 
I'm definitely not using this as a tack driver or range gun. I just don't feel confident to reliable to be combat accurate from 10y with this. again, i think its largely the grip, I just feel like the gun slides around due to not having enough real estate to grip. i'm going to try and find a hogue or talon grip and see if that helps
 
I haven't read the whole thread, and with it going into 3 pages now, this may have been stated, but...

I think there are a few reasons most of us see our accuracy drop off when shooting small pocket/pocketable pistols even though the inherent accuracy is there.

Of course the shorter sight radius makes it harder for most of us to be as accurate. That seems to be pretty intuitive. Most also have smaller sights which can make it harder for most of us to shoot it as accurately as with a larger gun (some, like my LCP have barely any sights). The smaller grip can make it harder to grip properly so the initial shot may be off, and regardless of how well you shoot that first shot, can make sight recovery and follow-up shots a bit off. The light weight of these guns, especially when in a relatively powerful .380 or 9mm chambering (as opposed to the more traditional pocket pistols with light recoiling .32ACP, .25ACP or .22lr), can make quick follow up shots difficult and contribute to poor shot to shot accuracy. Also, the light weight and perceived recoil can lead to flinching and anticipating the shot which can lower your accuracy.

All that said, I do find my SIG P290RS to be quite accurate (and low recoiling) for its size. It is about as accurate as a traditional subcompact sized gun (SIG P239, Glock 26/27, Taurus PT 111/140 Millennium Pro). I have also found that the metal micro Kahr (the Kahr MK9) is pretty accurate for the size, but the light PM9, while better than many of the lightweights, is still tougher to shoot accurately. There may well be others that are designed in such a way as to minimize the accuracy issues of the typical pocket sized gun.
 
The inaccuracies and inconsistencies in recent posts by TGOSA are too many to respond to, but future readers need to know that the concept that practice is useless and that anyone can become an expert marksman the moment they pick up the "right" pistol is completely and totally false. Disciplined practice of good technique is fundamental to good marksmanship, and no equipment that you can buy is a reasonable substitute. Should you buy a handgun that meets your needs and that fits both your hands and your expectations? Of course. Should you expect to shoot well without learning how and practicing, regardless of what handgun you pick? Absolutely not.
 
I would suggest to readers that there is no longer any need to respond to TheGuyofSouthAmerica posts.

Please continue the discussion with a realistic view of how to shoot pocket pistols accurately.

I won't delete them but ignore them.
 
The whole "get proficient through a lot, a lot of practice" is nothing else then an Marketing Business Gimmick to Lure People ito buying ammo.
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You want your views to be treated with respect, and then make silly statements like the above, or all "Glock style pistols" are not accurate. There are countless folks, many on this board, who are extremely accurate with striker fired, tilting barrel pistols. Many of us achieved this accuracy by spending many hours and thousands of rounds working on it. Speed and accuracy with a handgun requires practice. That you don't believe this truth causes me to believe you have not spent enough time working on your skills to understand it.

Why does an Olympic shooter spend countless hours shooting? Why do the best shooters at any level, whether in bullseye or combat style competitions, spend so much time working on their skills? Because they know that those skills require honing to sharpen and maintain that edge. Why do new shooters who are willing to spend the time and money getting proper training and regular practice improve while most long-term handgun shooters don't? Is it inherently superior equipment? Nope, practice.

EDIT: Glenn I posted this before seeing the above post.
 
I would suggest to readers that there is no longer any need to respond to TheGuyofSouthAmerica posts.
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Wasn't I clear? If you want to discuss the factors in pocket pistol accuracy - go ahead. Drop the personality analyses. That's a hint!
 
Thanks.

Let the real discussion continue. It's a good one. I took a snubby class to work out how to shoot that type of pocket pistol. As I said before, the guns are intrinsically accurate, it's grip and trigger manipulation for the most part.

There are various sighting options for J frames and pocket semis that help nowadays.
 
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