PLEASE help me build a COMBAT SHOTGUN (seriously need some advice here fellas)

Who, EXACTLY, officially defined "battle rifle?"
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That's the exact reason I asked the OP to define what he meant by "combat shotgun". I still don't think he's done that so it's pretty hard to make any specific recommendations.

IMHO, a "battle" or "combat" weapon of any type - rifle, shotgun, pistol, Ninja star, etc. - is one either used or intended to be used in battle or in combat.

Circling back around, that's why I asked the OP to define "combat shotgun" since I highly doubt he's actually going into combat with his shotgun any time soon. Of course, I could be wrong about that .... :D
 
have you ever shot a shotgun w/a pistol grip stock. If you haven't try one before you pay for one. I hate them, ruins the natural pointability for me. Some people love them. I like PawPaw's setup, regular old 870 with a short barrel. Fill that sucker with #1 buck and you're good to go.
 
yep

have you ever shot a shotgun w/a pistol grip stock. If you haven't try one before you pay for one. I hate them, ruins the natural pointability for me. Some people love them. I like PawPaw's setup, regular old 870 with a short barrel. Fill that sucker with #1 buck and you're good to go.
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+1 about that.
Pete
 
For shooting objects at ground level I wouldn't have anything but a PGS. The original standard stock is siting on a shelf collecting dust. Personal preference I guess.
 
Is it impossible to create a telescopic / collapsing stock for the Mossberg 930 SPX?

I know it's tough to create one for the Benelli M4.

I really like the 930 SPX, I just wish it had an adjustable stock.
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You would be better off with a plain stock that FITS
 
I was on ShotgunWorld and one 930 SPX owner replied "if you take the buttplate off you'll see that won't work." Supposedly a tube runs pretty far back into the stock.
 
@Mudinyeri,
IMHO, a "battle" or "combat" weapon of any type - rifle, shotgun, pistol, Ninja star, etc. - is one either used or intended to be used in battle or in combat.
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You are correct sir, at least from my point of view. This weapon system I am putting together would be intended for an Urban environment, with shots not intended much past 100yds. I am planning on taking several different combat courses to familiarize myself with my system (after watching Magpul's shotgun DVDs) and realize that I will probably make adjustments along the way. Would love to compete with it too, if'n there's an organization besides 3 gun thats more like IDPA where u can use shotty's. No, I don't plan on "using" it anytime soon, but you never know....Vegas is just a couple hours away, and I hear they have LOTS and lots of zombies! :D

Also @Publius....you didn't read me correctly. I don't want a pistol grip set up for the gun. I want a full pistol grip STOCK setup. ;)
 
Given your explanation, Smoke Screen, I'd probably start with a Benelli M4, add a +2 mag tube extension and spend any money left over on ammo, training to learn how to utilize the weapon and as much range time as you can afford.
 
I don't totally understand the whole Benelli M4 thing, supposedly some versions had collapsable stocks but "civilian" versions did not.

But then I see some people have what they are calling an M4 - not the 1014 with a collapsing stock, but supposedly Benelli doesn't sell the collapsing stock version to anyone except LE, but then I see them for sale so I wonder if those are LEO, or if it is a second-hand SG that was once owned by a LEO.

I need an aspirin.

And I'm wondering, is it really that much better than a Mossberg 930 ??? Is it even better period?
 
I don't see a collapsible stock as a necessity for a "combat" shotgun.

I would say the reliability of the M4 far outstrips that of the 930 SPX ... and I own a 930 SPX.

For me, reliability is the #1 feature I'm looking for in a "combat" weapon. If it doesn't go bang 100% of the time when I want it to ... the rest of the features are irrelevant.
 
I don't see a collapsible stock as a necessity for a "combat" shotgun.
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I like to be able to adjust it to my arms length. It brings the fore grip more to the rear so that I don't have to straighten my arms out so much to work the pump. So, for $50, I got a stock that is adjustable, and folds to the side so that the pistol grip can be utilized without having to remove the butt stock. Folding is handy for moving it around in a car, or truck cab, or making it fit better in the trunk of a car. I'm sure that some (oh geez, I'm gonna hurl :) ) "tactical" uses come from it as well. :) Now, the heat shield? Will anyone ever heat the barrel up enough to need one?

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Intimidation...

A heat shield or other tacticool knick knacks may not be fully needed for firing 1/2 12ga shells in a real critical event but I'd say a "mean, lean fighting machine" may scare the scat out of a violent criminal.
It's not a 100% absolute by any means but if it deters a thug or reduces the chance of a shooting then so be it. ;)
The main goal is defense or protection not re-doing the Alamo or the Tet Offensive.

CF
ps; Dont think that a "combat" shotgun will impress every violent felon either.
As the late author Robert Boatman said; "A well aimed shot of intimidation never killed anyone."
www.Boatmanbooks.com
 
Benelli M2 tactical WITH the comfortech and extended midlength mag tube is my choice, not that I will ever buy a shotgun for any kind of defensive use, pistols excell much faster and easier in this role. I happen to have a few pistols:D
 
not that I will ever buy a shotgun for any kind of defensive use, pistols excel much faster and easier in this role.
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I don't mind hijacking this thread at all - everything has been said, there is enough info here to build Ten Tac Shotguns (or combat shotgun if you want to call it that)

The comment about pistols excelling [sic..] in this role MUST BE CHALLENGED, hence the possible hi jacking of this thread...

OK, first of all a shotgun is as controllable or more controllable than most major caliber handguns.

They are as controllable or more controllable than most major caliber handguns, and a semi auto shotgun gun be fired accurately as quickly as most stock handguns (not talking race guns here...)

So lets say someone has a 12ga loaded with 2&3/4 #0 Buck - that is a 580 grain payload. Getting shot with that is like getting simultaneously shot by twelve .32 cal carbines. (Kinda - http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu91.htm) Twelve .32 cal projectiles that penetrate 12 to 14"

Same weapon loaded with #000 Buck is like getting shot by 9mm eight times (kind of, like maybe with 95grain bullets).

A person with a semi-auto shotgun can fire as quickly as someone with a handgun, but the shotgun delivers many more projectiles in less time.

There is no way a pistol excels over a shotgun in HD/SD.
 
I completely agree

Lol....thanks for the info Count Zero. I agree with you about the Shotgun as a HD/SD weapon. :D As to your previous post asking if it was built yet?....not quite my friend, but the foundation has been dug and we are under construction. I will post pics when I am done but it's at least a couple weeks out. ;)
 
I would say the reliability of the M4 far outstrips that of the 930 SPX ... and I own a 930 SPX. - Mudinyeri
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Have you had problems with your 930 ? Everything that I have read from owners, they have said it's rock solid, no malfunctions.

I don't know, I actually am a little partial to the Bennelli. I have heard that th ecollapsable stock on the M4 is not adjustable - it's either completely extended or completley collapsed, but there are corners in my house I wouldn't want to go around with a full stock. I don't think I would mind having a short stock. But I don't know...

The other thing is it seems really difficult (and confusing) to get the collapable stock version of the M4.

I don't think the 930 can be fitted with a buttstock that is going to collapse.

When I compared the two though - I sort of came to the conclusion that they are about the same as far as reliability goes.
 
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