Pietta Or Uberti ?

I find that

When I cast .454s I actually get somewhere between .454 and .4555. I find this is true almost no matter what I am using in the way of metal. I have heard of shrinkage of the balls as they cool down but if this is the case, they seem not to be shrinking to the stamped size of the molds I am using. .451 gives me bullets up to .453 and .457 molds produce up to .458 or perhaps even higher. I am using a tightwad's digital caliper but my measurements with that tool comport with a Starret micrometer.

I think the kit has .451s.

Hope this is not viewed as hijacking the thread.
 
Well I went back to the loacal shop tht has the Uberti.
Gave it a real good going over, it seems perfect in every way :cool:
I'm going to go back Saturday and Measure the Chambers, if they measure correct, I may have to bring it home
 
Change in plans :eek:
Just ordered a Pietta 1858 from Cabelas :D
Shows it is in stock, so I should have it by the end of next week or so.
Thanks for all the input, I may still have to go buy the Uberti as well ;)
 
Won't be disappointed

Personally, I don't think you'd do wrong with either a Uberti or a Pietta. Most of the re-enactors I know seem to favor the Pietta. Why? No real definitive answer, there. I just know if there were one of each on a table, same price, same condition, they would grab the Pietta, first. I have 4 '58 Remingtons (3 Pietta, 1 Uberti) for a cavalry impression I do. Remingtons seem to be the pistol of choice amoung re-enactors since extra loaded cyclinders can be carried and changed out pretty quickly, even on the back of a horse. Some sutlers are even selling a belt holder for extra cylinders. Early speedloaders? The '60 Colt was generally issue for Yankees early in the war even though a lot of Remingtons were sold, too. The Remington became standard issue after
Colts got so expensive about mid-war. Yankees used what they were issued (or bought on their own) and Confederates used what they took from the Yankees. Both the Colts and Remingtons are fun to shoot, but I sorta like the backstrap on the Remington. Seems like a better idea, to me. I suppose that's why Colt began using it on their '73 pistols. Visually, the '60 Colt is the winner, hands down. It just looks good. The stainless is a god's send for b/p pistol shooters, especially the lazier ones. I know numerous re-enactors who have purchased stainless revolvers, then blued or GunKoted them so as to not look too "farby". Wish I woulda done that!
Always remember...............
Yankees-1 Confederates-0 Halftime
 
So I went to a local Stealer that had 2 brand new Traditions Piettas.
Are the ones sold under Traditions seconds ?
I ask because they where not well made at all
One was a 5.5' .36 cal 1858, other was a Brass framed 8" 1858
On both; Actions were stiff and sticky, Wood to metel fit was bad, Ramrod levers were stiff and the end of the plungers were they contact the balls was rough and contacted the Cylinders, Blueing was not great.
Pistol's when cocked, the hammers would not always catch, then when you pulled the trigger they were sluggish to fire.
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Well I went back to the loacal shop tht has the Uberti.
Gave it a real good going over, it seems perfect in every way
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Change in plans
Just ordered a Pietta 1858 from Cabelas
Shows it is in stock, so I should have it by the end of next week or so.
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I would have thought you would go with the Uberti you were able to inspect in person, I hate mail order as I admit to being rather picky:D. The great thing about buying from Cabelas is if your not satisified with the Pietta you can get your cash back. Good luck with 1858 these are great fun:)
 
I would have thought you would go with the Uberti you were able to inspect in person, I hate mail order as I admit to being rather picky. The great thing about buying from Cabelas is if your not satisified with the Pietta you can get your cash back. Good luck with 1858 these are great fun
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I was all set to go with the Uberti, but I traded a scope for a Cabelas gift card, SOoooooo I'm almost no money out of pocket :)
I too am very picky and don't really like ordering a gun Online, but hearing Cabelas return policy makes me feel better.
 
There's just something good and American feeling about getting a gun in the mail:D

I hope this weather clears up by the time you get it.
 
The Pietta replacement cylinders are also much less expensive.
In the event of a return, Cabela's probably wouldn't replace a gift card with cash though. Maybe a store credit or another gift card for all I know.
 
you can't beat cabelas.

$199.99 ea and at the time i got free shipping!

plus cabelas has a good reputation for customer satifaction.

S.M.
 
Yup!

Just came home from the Gun show and it is amazing how many of the vendors either don't know about Cabela's prices or won't admit to knowing. There was very little in the way of BP revolver but virtually every last one of them had a starting price at least 50 dollars higher than new prices.
 
I bought a number of BP pistols from Cabelas and have had absolutely no problems. An adult must be present to sign for the package. The prices are great and quality is very high. I prefer the Pietta pistols but that's just a personal preference based on ease of getting replacement parts.

I have several BP revolvers that are many years old and made before CNC machining was common. There is a vast difference in fit and finish with the new ones coming out way on top!

Don't hesitate to buy the BP pistols from Cabelas. They are a genuine bargain!

Flash
 
Doesn't really matter

The cheapest I found online was $315 plus shipping, so it is pretty much a wash, only for the few extra bucks I get to handle it before I buy.
Although the Cabelas Pietta for $199 is sounding good
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Doesn't matter because it is obvious that the Pietta is the best choice, but here is the cheapest new Uberti 58 I know of for $295 plus shipping at Imact Arms.
 
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Doesn't matter because it is obvious that the Pietta is the best choice, but here is the cheapest new Uberti 58 I know of for $295 plus shipping at Imact Arms
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But it seems that Impact Arms always has their stuff marked "Out of Stock".

Here are my candidates for the cheapest Uberti 1858 models:

S&S Firearms Uberti 1858 $276 But you have to call them because I've seen where their catalog price is not up to date.

Buffalo Arms Cimarron imported Uberti 1858 $301

It's just darn hard to beat the value of a $199 Cabelas 1858. Especially as a starter cap-n-ball revolver.
 
Clembert,

Darn sure can't beat Pietta price and quality these days. At Cabella's prices my next revolver may just have to be a Pietta.

As for Impact Arms, I noticed when I pulled the link up for this thread that the item was out of stock. When I was considering buying it last year, it they were in stock. Didn't realize that is the norm for them.

Last year, I considered the Uberti 1858 from Impact Arms since it was the cheapest I could find online, then found I could get a Taylor's from a local gun shop a little cheaper and I could handle it before accepting it. Didn't buy that one either, when I realized I could buy two used ones for just a few dollars more. Mine work for a living so being new was of little importance to me.
 
I keep seeing here people saying that Cabela's customer service is top notch. That if you buy an 1860 or 1858 (or whatever) and you do not like it (for whatever reason) that they will take it back and give you another or refund your money.

However I was browsing their site today and in quite blunt terms on their return policy page is states that black powder guns are not eligible for their return policy.

So which is it?
 
Cabela's has excellent customer service. They will work with you to get a satisfactory result, and the vast majority of people who have problems with Cabela's merchandise report being pleased with the outcome.

However, that refers to defective merchandise. If you get a bad product, they'll pretty much do whatever it takes to satisfy you. If, however, you want to return a product because you find out, for instance, that a perfectly good $200 1858 Remington does not fit your high expectations, well, they may choose to invoke that policy.

It's that 'for whatever reason' thing - it's hard to define.
 
They don't want folks to send them back, or to know that they can send them back and that they will bend over backwards to satisfy you if they are sent back.

That's why we tell everyone by word of mouth that if you buy from Cabela's that you can send them back.
We all advertise and send Cabela's so much business that they should be paying the forum royalties! :D
 
Here's a couple of more differences between the Uberti 5.5 inch Remy and the Pietta 5.5 inch Remy, besides just the dovetailed sights and lever latch of the Uberti vs the posts of the Pietta.

The silhouette of the ramming lever is different on the Uberti vs the Pietta.
Notice how the Uberti has a shorter "web" section to its lever vs the Pietta and the Uberti has a more severely angled "cut" to its rammer "web" where that web goes into the rod shaped forward part of the rammer. While the Pietta has a gradual tapered flow of its rammer "web" going into the rod shaped forward part of the rammer. This alone is a dead giveaway as to which brand revolver it is from a distance.

Also notice how the actual rammer part that goes against the ball does not extend as far into the frame on the Uberti as it does on the Pietta. See how the actual ram that touches the ball can be seen in the ball loading cutout of the Pietta even with the rammer lever fully latched, while on the Uberti when the rammer is fully latched, you cannot see the part of the rammer that contacts the ball. Also notice how on the Uberti the fore most part of the ram that touches the ball can be seen forward of the frame directly under the arbor "ears", while on the Pietta that part of the rammer is hidden inside the frame unseen. Look at the rear of the "web" of both loading levers directly under their arbor "ears" to see this difference.

You can see all the above if you carefully study the two below pictures against each other.

Uberti
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Pietta
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