Pietta Or Uberti ?
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Bill Akins
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My experience is that Pietta and Uberti today are about equal on fit and finish. Some people say the Uberti is marginally better in fit and finish, and that may have been true comparing the Uberti's with earlier Pietta's. But Pietta has come up a lot in quality and I would put them now in the same quality as Uberti. Although for some inexplicable reason the Uberti's still seem to command a higher price than the Piettas on gunbroker auctions. Trust me, you will hear some people say Uberti's are better while others will argue that Pietta's are just as good. Truth is, they are both good with the Pietta's usually being less expensive because of the past impression that Uberti's are better lingers on.
So although quality fit and finish these days are about the same, there still are some differences between the Uberti and Pietta 1858 Remingtons.
The Pietta 1858 Remy will sometimes have a bit larger grip than the Uberti.
Which is good for larger hands. Although I have 3 Pietta 1858's and my stainless one has a larger grip and grip frame than my other two 1858 Piettas. Go figure.
The Uberti has a slightly longer cylinder than the Pietta. So a Pietta cylinder will fit in an Uberti but shouldn't be used because that creates to much of a barrel to cylinder gap. Likewise the cartridge conversion cylinders for the Pietta will fit into an Uberti, but shouldn't be used for the same excessive barrel to cylinder gap reasons. Bottom line, either one you get you have to use their own particular cylinders in them and also cartridge conversion cylinder made specifically for that brand.
The other differences are that the Uberti dovetails its front sight into the top of the barrel. Uberti also dovetails its loading rammer latch attachment into the bottom of the barrel. In contrast, Pietta silver solders both its front sight into a hole in the top of the barrel and also silver solders its loading rammer latch into a hole on the bottom of the barrel.
Here's a comparison between the 1858 Pietta that does not dovetail the front sight and loading lever catch stud under the barrel, vs the 1858 Uberti dovetailed ones. Uberti on the left and Pietta on the right.
Earlier Uberti 1858 Remy's back in the 70's were not dovetailed. But today they are while Pietta's are not. Here's an interesting article from the firing line that covers some of this from back in Aug 2010....
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4197694
I will say that I believe the sideways tapped in dovetailed front sight and dovetailed loading rammer attachment of the Uberti are more secure than the silver soldered on ones of the Pietta's and earlier production Uberti's.
That is a plus for recent and current production Uberti 1858 Remys in my opinion. Although I don't own an Uberti anything at this time but do own four Pietta's (3 1858 Pietta Remys & one 1860 Pietta) and like them very much.
Again, they are both good quality 1858 Remington reproductions.
Hope this helped you.
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So although quality fit and finish these days are about the same, there still are some differences between the Uberti and Pietta 1858 Remingtons.
The Pietta 1858 Remy will sometimes have a bit larger grip than the Uberti.
Which is good for larger hands. Although I have 3 Pietta 1858's and my stainless one has a larger grip and grip frame than my other two 1858 Piettas. Go figure.
The Uberti has a slightly longer cylinder than the Pietta. So a Pietta cylinder will fit in an Uberti but shouldn't be used because that creates to much of a barrel to cylinder gap. Likewise the cartridge conversion cylinders for the Pietta will fit into an Uberti, but shouldn't be used for the same excessive barrel to cylinder gap reasons. Bottom line, either one you get you have to use their own particular cylinders in them and also cartridge conversion cylinder made specifically for that brand.
The other differences are that the Uberti dovetails its front sight into the top of the barrel. Uberti also dovetails its loading rammer latch attachment into the bottom of the barrel. In contrast, Pietta silver solders both its front sight into a hole in the top of the barrel and also silver solders its loading rammer latch into a hole on the bottom of the barrel.
Here's a comparison between the 1858 Pietta that does not dovetail the front sight and loading lever catch stud under the barrel, vs the 1858 Uberti dovetailed ones. Uberti on the left and Pietta on the right.
Earlier Uberti 1858 Remy's back in the 70's were not dovetailed. But today they are while Pietta's are not. Here's an interesting article from the firing line that covers some of this from back in Aug 2010....
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4197694
I will say that I believe the sideways tapped in dovetailed front sight and dovetailed loading rammer attachment of the Uberti are more secure than the silver soldered on ones of the Pietta's and earlier production Uberti's.
That is a plus for recent and current production Uberti 1858 Remys in my opinion. Although I don't own an Uberti anything at this time but do own four Pietta's (3 1858 Pietta Remys & one 1860 Pietta) and like them very much.
Again, they are both good quality 1858 Remington reproductions.
Hope this helped you.
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I bought a Pietta 1858 Remington from Cabelas a couple of years ago and have been very happy with it. Fit and finish are top notch! Takes .454 sized balls. My only complaint is that the nipples are a little small for #11 CCI caps. Remington #10 caps fit better but are harder to find locally. Aftermarket nipples are available that will take #11 caps.
Thanks all 
Do the Uberti take the .454 as well or does it favor the .457 like the ROA ?
I like the fact that Uberti dovetails the front sight and Ramrod latch.
I used to have a Nickle Peitta about 5 years ago, loved it, would put 5 shots into one hole at 10yds., but the 6th would be out about 1", it was always
the same Cyl.
also most of the nipples were where not drill though.
When I called Pietta's CS in Italy, I actually got Mr. Peitta
Sent me replacement nipples in 4 days, I still have the envolope thay came in mailed from Italy 
Broken link
Do the Uberti take the .454 as well or does it favor the .457 like the ROA ?
I like the fact that Uberti dovetails the front sight and Ramrod latch.
I used to have a Nickle Peitta about 5 years ago, loved it, would put 5 shots into one hole at 10yds., but the 6th would be out about 1", it was always
the same Cyl.
also most of the nipples were where not drill though.When I called Pietta's CS in Italy, I actually got Mr. Peitta
Sent me replacement nipples in 4 days, I still have the envolope thay came in mailed from Italy Broken link
Bill Akins
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Sorry about the broken link. I went back and fixed it plus here it is again....
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4197694
Well I just got back from a local Stealer
He had a new Uberti 1858 Blued Model, box says "New Improved Model" or something to that effect.
It is Gorgeous, Fit and finish look great, Lockup is tight and Actoin is Butter smoooth, also front sight is perfectly stright, so barrel is clocked correct.
I noticed that on Uberti's web site that the 1858 is pictured without dovetails.
Anyway, Price was $329, I may have to go back tomorrow and get it,
Unless I can save getting one online
He had a new Uberti 1858 Blued Model, box says "New Improved Model" or something to that effect.
It is Gorgeous, Fit and finish look great, Lockup is tight and Actoin is Butter smoooth, also front sight is perfectly stright, so barrel is clocked correct.
I noticed that on Uberti's web site that the 1858 is pictured without dovetails.
Anyway, Price was $329, I may have to go back tomorrow and get it,
Unless I can save getting one online
Bill Akins
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Hylander, why pay $329.00 for a blue one when you can get a stainless 1858 Remy Uberti here for $359.95 and it has both dovetails.....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215385772
Then here's a 1979 era earlier Uberti 1858 Remy stainless with holster at $225.00 although from the pics I can't tell if it has the dovetails or not.....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215215382
I just hate to see you pay $329.00 for a blue Uberti 1858 Remy when you can get a stainless Uberti 1858 Remy for just a little more or even for much less.
And here's some links to stainless Pietta 1858 Remys....
Started at $265.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215368910
Started at $100.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216028655
Trust me Hylander, go stainless or at least nickel. You will never regret it.
It cleans sooo much easier and no cold blue touchup ever needed and practically no rust ever. Don't be in a hurry and do an impulse buy that will cost you more. SHOP. Keep a watch on the one's I clued you to above.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215385772
Then here's a 1979 era earlier Uberti 1858 Remy stainless with holster at $225.00 although from the pics I can't tell if it has the dovetails or not.....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215215382
I just hate to see you pay $329.00 for a blue Uberti 1858 Remy when you can get a stainless Uberti 1858 Remy for just a little more or even for much less.
And here's some links to stainless Pietta 1858 Remys....
Started at $265.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215368910
Started at $100.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216028655
Trust me Hylander, go stainless or at least nickel. You will never regret it.
It cleans sooo much easier and no cold blue touchup ever needed and practically no rust ever. Don't be in a hurry and do an impulse buy that will cost you more. SHOP. Keep a watch on the one's I clued you to above.
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i have no complaints on the four piettas purchased from cabela's this pass year.
i agree that pietta has improved their quality.
as with anything man made a person can always get a boo-boo.
that just tells me someone in quality control is speanding more time looking at the hottie next to him or at the breakroom then where he's supposed to be.
happens in all industries....a human fraility....another augument for robots.....
S.M.
i agree that pietta has improved their quality.
as with anything man made a person can always get a boo-boo.
that just tells me someone in quality control is speanding more time looking at the hottie next to him or at the breakroom then where he's supposed to be.
happens in all industries....a human fraility....another augument for robots....
.S.M.
None that I know of. Sorry.
I have to agree that price for a blued Uberti seems high. I also have to agree that stainless is a wonderful option. But, I also understand the idea of using blued steel to experience it all just as they did back in the day. My first gun was a stainless Uberti 1858 Remington, and I still love it! A couple years ago I bought a Pietta 1860, but I had to have it in blued steel to relive history the way it was.
For the same exact price I'd take an Uberti just about any day over a Pietta. But, alas, that is rarely the case. Usually, you are going to pay a good bit more for an Uberti over a Pietta. So, it boils down to how much money you have to pee-pee away. It is hard to walk away from some of those sales that Cabelas has on Piettas.
I have a rather small collection of BP revolvers. 2 Rugers, 2 Ubertis, and 3 Piettas. Not that a small sampling proves any point but I like the quality of my BP revolvers is this order: Ruger, Uberti, Pietta. For the price I very much like the Piettas.
I have a rather small collection of BP revolvers. 2 Rugers, 2 Ubertis, and 3 Piettas. Not that a small sampling proves any point but I like the quality of my BP revolvers is this order: Ruger, Uberti, Pietta. For the price I very much like the Piettas.
Bill Akins
New member
Hylander, here's some more I picked out for you to check out.
Nice .44 1858 Pietta Remy with 5.5 inch barrel. I like this one a lot. At $215.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=214546958
Another Pietta 1858 Remy with holster, powder flask and extra cylinder. At $100.00 but reserve not met.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216028653
New in box Pietta Remy with adjustable sights. At zero right now with unknown reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216327495
Same as previous. At $215.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216214216
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Nice .44 1858 Pietta Remy with 5.5 inch barrel. I like this one a lot. At $215.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=214546958
Another Pietta 1858 Remy with holster, powder flask and extra cylinder. At $100.00 but reserve not met.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216028653
New in box Pietta Remy with adjustable sights. At zero right now with unknown reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216327495
Same as previous. At $215.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216214216
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Bill Akins
New member
Couple of more 1858 Remys for you to check out Hylander.
This ASM Remy is nice. Says stainless or nickel frame. Comes with very nice like new triple K leather holster, straight line capper, nipple wrench, nipple prick, caps, flask, adjustable sights, 12" target barrel, unfired condition. Read its description. Currently at $235.00 with no bids and no reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216182681
This is a nickel plated Pietta Remy. Unfired, new in orig box with paperwork.
Currently at $200.00 with no bids and no reserve. (I like stainless and nickel)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216136602
Hopefully something I send your way will help you. One of the other fellows from here bid and won the fluted, 5 shot, .36 cal, 1862 pocket police I posted telling everyone about here on Sunday. At $115.00 that one was a steal. Glad to see someone from here got it. I would have got it myself but I just bought another one. There are a few good deals out there. Just take your time and keep looking for what you want at the price you want to spend. Resist impulse buying.
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This ASM Remy is nice. Says stainless or nickel frame. Comes with very nice like new triple K leather holster, straight line capper, nipple wrench, nipple prick, caps, flask, adjustable sights, 12" target barrel, unfired condition. Read its description. Currently at $235.00 with no bids and no reserve.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216182681
This is a nickel plated Pietta Remy. Unfired, new in orig box with paperwork.
Currently at $200.00 with no bids and no reserve. (I like stainless and nickel
)http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216136602
Hopefully something I send your way will help you. One of the other fellows from here bid and won the fluted, 5 shot, .36 cal, 1862 pocket police I posted telling everyone about here on Sunday. At $115.00 that one was a steal. Glad to see someone from here got it. I would have got it myself but I just bought another one. There are a few good deals out there. Just take your time and keep looking for what you want at the price you want to spend. Resist impulse buying.
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