pics of your safes?

I really like that safe of yours FLHT, great find and very unique looking. Is that a wood interior?
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Thanks!

No it's all metal inside, and out, with the "optional woodgrain upgrade". The original owner bought it new from Mosler in (I believe) 1940. He gave me the original invoice and shipping bill of lading which is kinda cool. This is a picture of the tags on it, which I really don't understand.

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Wow, those are really nice racks! I just submitted an order for the 12 gun greystone. I have 11 handguns, they're scattered around on the 3 upper shelves.

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Can hardly wait to get organized. It's going to look beautimous!
 
PlayboyPeng, are you SERIOUS?

Cripes, that looks like more of a life-long collection rather than just 3 years. I wish I brought in 6 figures every year...
 
PBP - you could sell a few of your guns and buy a really nice safe that is at least UL Residential rated. You have such an amazing collection (I'm guessing at least $20K+ in handguns alone), seems unfotunate to leave it in a $299 Lowes safe.:o
 
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PBP - you could sell a few of your guns and buy a really nice safe that is at least UL Residential rated. You have such an amazing collection, seems unfotunate to leave it in a $299 Lowes safe.
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Here is a little secret that most safe manufacturers (or dealers) will not share with you. I have a few friends that are firefighters and one who is an ex-firemarshal turned fire specialist for an insurance company. They all say that the ratings these companies give their products are so bogus. They are given a set of criteria to meet but then not monitored at all on how the reach that criteria because UL does not have the means to test the products themselves so instead allow the manufacturers to do it. They all say they have NEVER opened a home safe that has come in contact with fire where the contents were salvageable...not matter what the fire rating. In fact the friend who was the firemarshal says a fire rated safe might survive a few extra minutes or being a few extra inches closer to the fire but nothing really worthwhile. His advice was buy a cheaper safe and put the extra money towards better insurance. That is advice I took. I have a modest safe but excellent insurance. :)
 
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+1 PBP post

I indirectly work in safe sales and this is absolutely true. Of all the safes I have heard of being in a fire nothing was salvageable either. The company I work with will replace the safe and 5000 dollars worth of what was in it (bearing some verification of course) under warranty for LIFE. Apparently they dont care about the bogus fire ratings and are laughing all the way to the bank for it.
 
+1 as well.

I don't heavily invest in my safes. I aquired decent ones BUT have a nice insurance policy to cover its major contents. :)
 
so....it seems armsmaster has a safe the size of my bedroom. nice.

i think i will need to invest in a new safe sometime in the next 6 months. my $120 stack on "ammo strong box" isn't going to be big enough soon enough.
 
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PBP - that may be true. As you said, insurance is key. I'm a big believer in insurance, as I deal with it everyday. Theft is also a worry as well though. I know a determined thief can get into anything. But it would be nice to know someone couldn't just walk away with a safe full of gun on a dolly.

I appreciate your insight, as I haven't yet bought my safe and am still thinking through what direction to go. I'm still using Stack-On metal lockers for the majority of my guns. But the collection is large enough now that I need to do something else. The Stack-Ons will become ammo storage.

Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Surprising to hear about the fire-worthiness of safes. However, my main concern is not fire, it is a break-in and the resultant theft of my possessions. To properly insure my guns and other valuables, it would require a very expensive rider to my insurance policy...more than I am willing to spend on an annual basis. Therefore, I made the decision to invest in a safe that will be most difficult and time consuming for someone to break in to.

I am about out of room and was contemplating another safe until I saw what ZEBRARANGER posted. Thanks for posting that information. I am going to measure the space in my safe and order some custom gun racks. I currently store my guns inside their original boxes and it does take up a lot of room. I may be able to triple my capacity with those gun racks and at the same time, store my extra magazines along with the guns. I have not less than 4 magazines for every gun I own. More for my carry guns and AR-15.
 
Although PBP makes a good point re fire ratings, my thinking is:

1. If the extra insulation makes the contents of the safe last a few minutes longer I'll take it - the firefighters might get the fire out before the whole place burns to the ground, and the extra few minutes of protection might make the difference between salvaged and ruined.

2. My primary concern is theft, and the higher the safe quality the harder it is to get into.

3. Insurance can't replace some of the things in the safe, for example, antique jewelry handed down through generations.

I bought the highest quality safe I could afford, even though it caused me to have a couple less guns than I would otherwise. The only trouble is, now I need a bigger one......
 
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If theft is not covered neither will be fire. Protecting items like firearms requires a rider under either condition. Insurance will only cover $1000 tops on collections without a rider.

Plus, according to the flyer ADT gave me when I bought my alarm system, the losses caused by fire and flood each year are many times greater than losses caused by home burglary. So you better have your insurance set to handle the much more likely scenario.

Besides, I just bough my work safe from a local safe company. I asked them how secure it was since it was so expensive and if it included any guarantee. He told me it would keep out 99% of thieves but anyone with modern power tools could break into the most expensive home/business safe he sells in 15 minutes. He says the only reason it takes a professional safe guy so long to get one open is because the safe has to be salvageable afterwards. He said a common grinder will cut a $10,000 safe in half in about 2 minutes more time than it will a $500 safe.
 
check out http://www.sturdysafe.com/firelinertestcompare.htm

they have a glass fire liner and a boiler seal on the door...

they had picts at one time on their website where they opened a safe after a complete burndown and there was no damage to any plastic gun case, documents or even the cellophane windows on envelopes...

their fire lining is in the top and bottom as well as the obligatory sides and doors that other safes have...
 
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