Percussion cap questions

Cappers and real life?

Does anyone know if the oldtimers used Cappers as common tools?
If so, what type were they? Straight or the snail type.
I have notiuced that my straight line cappers slightly pinch the caps as they go on.
So many folks have Cap problems and it seems there is no way to generalize "use #10's etc." to help out. It's frustrating but hasn't been cured in the last decade so I don't see a real cure coming along any time soon.
ZVP
 
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I hate #10's. But I found out by luck if you use "the works" a type of windex product to clean your nipples " 11's stay on better. They fall off mostly due to oil.
 
I use #11s, and a Ted Cash snail shaped capper on my Pietta Remington.
Once I crudely filed/sanded the nipples down slightly, they took #11s very well.
As purchased from Pietta, they popped off at every shot. After modification, they stick quite well, and I don't get cap jams anymore.
 
Hardy,

If your caps fall off, they DO NOT fit the nipples. You shouldn't have any oil on the nipples to begin with. Find a combination of cap size/brand and nipples and stop fooling around! :cool:
 
mykeal. That's the same type chart. Thinks for posting :cool:
I been using a straight line caper with my older 58 it works ok. don't work with the #10s. learned from others to use a little round wood stick to push them on the nipples. With the 58 Rimies extra cylinders is the way to go., works pretty good with the Walker to. Don't know about others but mine is easy to change out the cylinder on. Can't say the same thing about the other Colt models. The ones I have it's a pain to try to switch out the cylinders on them. So shoot six and reload.
 
Zullo-- I used to have oil on nipples when I first started. I greased chambers and oiled gun too much. I said--if you degrease nipples they don't fall off. I'm sure you know that but not everyone knows what you seem to know. Actually I thought a 10.75 cap would be the answer to folks that get frustrated w/ this sport. This thread is too address problems -not to get smart and arrogant. Now you quit foolin around.:p
WBH
 
Hardy,

If caps are too large for the nipples, they will fall off, oil or no oil. If you don't want advice, quit whining. I wasn't getting arrogant or smart with you, just trying to help you. But if you think you have the right answers, then you do not need help or advice from anyone. :confused:
 
Zullo' I don't have all the right answers. Our customers either know all that is needed to know or they are completely naive. I do know that #11's won't stay on w/oil on standard(Pietta) nipples but I suggested "The Works" that seem to keep them oil free better than anything I used. At the beginning of this discussion I was trying to find a wholeseller that could sell me 10.75 caps that would help solve some frustrations to new shooters. I'm trying to make it easy for new comers. I would order some belgium caps and treso nipples but they are expensive and only seasoned shooters might want. I guess I'm just trying to make this a user friendly sport. And when the user gets and gains more knowledge and hopefully gets the bug, he'll move up. OK-I'm sorry I said you were arrogant. You were just trying to help. :):cool:

WBH
 
RWS falls into the #11 size. The 1075 isn't a size it's just their number for them. Their musket caps are 1081. #10's fit most Pietta's best. I only had one that 10's didn't work on and that one took #11.
 
I think everyone really tries to help out. some do it with light hearted jargon, some speak straight. It's all there to help ya!
My guns seem to work with pinched Remington #11's. I pinch em to be sure, it's a habit now.
I tried some RWS Caps and they fit pretty good but they were WAY soft and the fragments got into everywhere! The Remingtons seem to go bang and hang together best for me.
I think the stock nipples vary so much that it's a crap shoot!
ZVP
 
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