Percussion cap questions

If we are using the "stock" Nipples and want to try and modify them for best preformance, do we want to go shiney and polished, or rough?
It would seem to me that a rough texture would hold the caps in place better.
Thanks,
ZVP
 
Methinks rough would make them harder to seat, seems like some folk have a hard enough time seating them to begin with with all the posts about second strike firings.
 
Thats right. I never have to strike them twice. The hand polished fit keeps
them on the nipple tight. Black powder redisue won't stick on a shinny surface
either. Been doing it this way for 50 years.
 
The #10s are to big for my 51 .36 cal Navy. I'm thinking about trying the Treso nipples on it. If they work out may put them on all my revolvers. Have to fix one revolver a mouth. Wife giving me a hard time about buying to many BP revolvers. Can you believe that, to many revolvers? I want a refund on the old lady. :eek: Only two ways I'ed ever shoot anybody. One if they were trying to brake in my house and #2 is if someone took the old wify, and tried to bring her back :D That women drives me :confused: Might be better off to wait a little while longer, and order all them at the same time. The last time I looked up the Treso nipples they were about $30.00 bucks per six. That would cost me about $240.00 plus S&H. Is it true that if you change to the Treso nipples you will be able to use #11 caps on your revolvers. That puts and end to having to order #10s anymore. Those things aren't cheap after you put the hazemat fee on them. Believe they were around $70.00 bucks last time I bought 1000 of them.
 
Another option for American made nipples is Blomquist Percussion Works who makes customs nipples as well as all types of stock nipples for many retailers.
It's reported that his phone number has changed from the one listed on his website.
His nipples are said to be made of hard steel which have a fairly small flash hole.
He also offers some volume pricing. Any questions just ask him.

His working phone number is reported to be 317-706-0712.

http://www.blomquistpercussionworks.com/

http://blomquistpercussionworks.com/products.html
 
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Actually his number is 317-706-0712

The one on the web page is wrong and has been wrong for going on two years. He knows it...he just can't get it fixed.

I just bought some from him last week. His nipples are made of a a harder material that Treso's and they're also 3/16th's like Ruger's.

His design also uses the smaller ignition hole, like the Treso's.
 
Thanks for the correct phone number.
I'll edit my original post to avoid confusion.
Are his nipples made to fit #11 caps?
 
He told me on the phone that he sized his nipples using the RWS 1075. Which are more 11 than 10's.

I wouldn't hesitate to call him. There's nothing he doesn't know about the subject and he likes to discuss it.
 
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I have several outlets local that stock CCI caps in 10 and 11. What I have done is dress all my nipples to take CCI #10's. Chuck the nipple in a drill, use a slow speed, some jewelery files. Finish with fine sand paper. Like kwhi43 said, the caps stay tight with the polished surface. You are modifying the diameter, taper and length.

Treso's are great if you have just a few revolvers. I didn't want to spend 1K to outfit my collection.
 
Madcrate you are right! There is always a way to rework parts. Unfortunately new customers to B/P shooting feel blindsided to just the basics. it's hard to get a newbee interested. But, the ones that are always either used rem 11's or cci 10's. I've found that if your nipples have been degreased "11's are good. If you don't (take some thickness) off nipples then #10's are not reliable. Anyway -just looking for a cap someone can use without problems and not having to gunsmith. Well- I guess anyone who starts out in B/P revolvers and likes it -then they will have to do a little gunsmithing sooner or later. Right?

WBH
 
Hardy,

I have 6 C&B revolvers. 1 has Treso nipples, 2 have after market stainless nipples, 2 have stock Pietta nipples, and the last one is a ROA with Ruger nipples. I use Remington #10 caps on all with NO problems. In fact I just bought 1000 more! ;)
 
I've had a few Pietta's over the years and the only one that didn't take #10's was an 1860 Colt, it took #11's. I never had to change out nipples or dress them dowm. Maybe I was just lucky. I have a Rigarmi 58 Remington I bought new in 69. It takes #9 Caps which aren't made anymore but pinch fit 10's work pretty well. Yes it still has the original nipples.
 
Well, I just don't know. I've never had rem #10's but maybe that is the answer. Thank yu.

I guess ordering caps and powder you have to buy a lot since you have to pay explosive fees. We always got Rem -11's. I ordered a case of 10's cci 2 years ago and haven't sold them all. I'm not sure Ellet Bros carry Rem 10's--but will check on it.
 
I can get Remington 10's, CCI 11's and RWS musket caps fairly locally. I don't care much for the Remingtons but I use what I can get.
 
Caps have gone up. Powder Valley is now 41.00 a M for CCI. That's about
the cheapest. I just brought back 24,000 from Friendship last month. Cost
me 41.00 a M. They are not going to get any cheaper.
 
The answer is polish the nipples to a shine

I would have thought a rough finish would hold the cap on better, but I CAN'T argue with experience!
Thanks!
I have had good luck shooting with Remington #11's but I pinch em a little out of round and use a push-stick to seat them on the nipple. Don't have many second strikes needed by pushing the caps down.
ZVP
 
I will be shooting timed fire matches at Friendship in Sept. I have to have
total 100 % first strike fires. We have 10 min. for 10 shots .
 
Wow!! so much info. Thinks fellows :) I always used #11s on my first 1858 Rimmington. That revolvers numbers or letters in the little box on the right side makes it made in 1989. I ordered it new around 91. Found a chart on another site one of the fellows posted that is a lot of help in finding out when your revolver was made. I may ask him if its ok to post it here, comes in handy if you want to find out when your revolver was made, anyway that pistol uses #11s and they fit just fine. It was later when I bought my other models that I found out that I was going to need #10s I don't have a lot of revolvers but I have more than I'll ever shoot in one day. Three 58s Two 60s One Walker and Two 51s. It wasn't till I bought the .36 cal 51 Navy that I found out the #10s were to big for it. You have to pinch them on like you would have to pinch the #11s on the other models. That's when I ordered 1000 #10s. They work out fine on everything but the one .36 cal Navy. So I think I'll just replace everything so I can just walk in the store and buy #11s. Oh well no big dill, but you guys have been a lot of help. I'm sure there are others that will come along and find this info helpful as well as I do. Heck some want worry bout it at all, and just keep pinching the #11s on. To each his own. :)
 
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It's been posted here, many, many times.

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