... & people keep buying 22's

RC20,I'm so happy you feel that way!

Considering,I've been shooting 22's for around 43 years,I've had plenty of time to stock up on my ammo.
I guess you really get offended by shooter's that think ahead in life.
I've also been reloading for over 35 years,so you'd really be ****** off if you knew how much centerfire ammo,powder,primers,and bullets I have stocked up.:rolleyes:
 
I keep buying 22's because I still have plenty 22 ammo....I was well stocked before any of the shortages came along....
 
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Too bad someone doesn't bring out an affordable bolt gun in a cast friendly .22 caliber. Something you could load from 1000 to 2000 fps. That'd cover lr to mag performance for what? About 6 cents a pop if you made your own boolits?
How about a Savage walking varminter in 22 Hornet?
I've seen cast load data using Unique that mimics 22lr balistics and with jacketed and lil'gun you can get way over 2K
 
I shoot a lot of 22 Hornet... & love the cartridge & the several variations of it, that I shoot, but I wouldn't advise someone jump into that one right now... brass is near impossible to buy & ammo just about as tough ( or in some ways tougher ) to get than 22 LR right now
 
An article in the Shotgun news explains why the manufacturers have not increased production...$...they are barely able to break even on the stuff. I enjoy shooting my .22's anytime I want. Pre ammunition insanity times I put many thousands of rounds into ammo cans and up on my shelf next to the other calibers I shoot, so now if I want to shoot .223, .38, 44-40, 22LR etc. i simply work on thirty year old stock. Point being now that we have "shortages" on a regular basis one must prepare to keep their firearms supplied with fodder when the next crisis hits.
 
KAWI... dang it... you got me thinking 25 ACP again... looking at the prospect of converting a Super Single Six from 32 H&R Magnum ( with adjustable sights ) to 25 ACP, by way of a new cylinder & a barrel liner... would make an interesting, & reloadable small game gun & with cast bullets, super cheap to reload...
 
Who it's really hurting is the people/kids who would love to learn the sport of shooting! I'm fortunate that my son is 21 and when he was just a little dude we had no such sillyness going on. He could shoot his little 67 Winchester untill his thumb got good and tired of pulling back the cocking piece!
 
KAWI... dang it... you got me thinking 25 ACP again... looking at the prospect of converting a Super Single Six from 32 H&R Magnum ( with adjustable sights ) to 25 ACP, by way of a new cylinder & a barrel liner... would make an interesting, & reloadable small game gun & with cast bullets, super cheap to reload...
A 32 S&W with cast round balls and a few flakes of bullseye isn't cheep enough for you lol.:D
 
I'm thinking the Savage 23b in .25-20 with castboolits and 5gr Unique is a superior choice to the .22 WMR which seems to be unobtainable now.
What's more fun than a rimfire? Almost any centerfire!
 
Brought home another 10/22 today, model 11168, 16.1" stainless barrel with black laminate version of the full size Target model stock.

I've always liked the compact models, just haven't come across many in stainless and this is the only one I've seen with a full-size stock.

Brought home another 10/22 today, model 11168, 16.1" stainless barrel with black laminate version of the full size Target model stock.

I decided to put this one in a Blackhawk stock for the grand-kids to use... after mounting the little variable scope, and adding an old M1 Carbine sling, it weighs just barely over 5 pounds.

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As a shooter my whole life, the 22lr was always present as a relaxing time or as a tool for pest. I always got bricks of 22lr from the family for Christmas for years and years. It was just alot easier and inexpensive gift to buy me knowing I shoot so much. Even shooting ALOT, I have bricks of 22lr from the late 1980's. I find most rual shooters always have 3 or 4 bricks of 22lr laying around. It almost seems bizarre for any serious 22lr shooter not to have a large stock pile of ammo since it was always cheap and lasts forever if stored reasonably well.

Currently I have a skunk problem so my "one shot one kill" gun is always loaded and ready to go.:D
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A person posted on another gun forum that he had stumbled upon some 525 count Bricks of Federal 22lr at Walmart. They had something like 25 boxes and he bought his limit of 3 and his wife bought 3 more boxes for him. He then called a couple of his friends who came down and they each bought him 3 boxes (they must not have been shooters themselves) which adds up to a total of 12 boxes he scored. He was so proud of himself he posted a picture of his new stash.
It is that kind of greedy behavior that is keeping this maddening shortage going. He claims he is shooting it himself but who knows. That clown didn't really need to buy 6300 rounds on one morning and it appears that he probably is not the exception. I have found some boxes of 22lr during this mess and had a chance to buy 3 each time but only bought 1 when I had the chance. I decided to step away from the computer and not comment on his post.
 
He claims he is shooting it himself but who knows. That clown didn't really need to buy 6300 rounds on one morning and it appears that he probably is not the exception
Who are you to say he didn't need it? :rolleyes:

Aside from the fact that this it's a free market....
Perhaps he has an upcoming Boy Scout camp where they'll be needing that ammo.
Or, maybe he has 15 new .22s that he has collected over the last 1.5 years, that he needs to test and break in.
Or, maybe he just wanted to empty all of the boxes and leave them on the doorstep of pessimistic, jealous shooters that are angry because they can't get that much....
 
I sold both of my .22 LR rifles about two years ago and sold all of my rimfire ammo (.22LR. .22WMR, .17HMR) about three months ago... about 18K rounds. I'm DONE with rimfire for a long time.
 
22LR is one of the very few, or possibly the only caliber that a family of four can go shoot all day and not have to re-finance something.

Recently, I saw such a family doing just that (5 shooters I believe), it looked like they were having family marksmanship competition games. I didn't count how many shots I heard, but easily more than 2K.

My 22LR stash would likely only last one outing of this kind of shooting, so I can certainly understand how some people can justify having such a large stash. I had an opportunity to buy 3 500 round bricks 2 weeks ago. I bought one.
 
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Other than shotshells or the occasional "match" ammo for $18/box of 50 :eek:
I haven't seen any .22lr since June/July 2013. They even opened a new Gander Mountain about 40 mins away on April 1st, and by the 3rd they were sold out of .22 (I'm not sure I would have bought any anyways, all their other ammo seemed a bit stupid in price). I'm honestly about to sell off all my guns in .22 and buy a pistol in .40S&W, since every WM in my area is nearly overstocked on that caliber.
 
Some of us prepared for such a shortage :)

The next 10 boxes of bulk Federal 22LR I can get at walmart are coming home with me. That is about a years supply for me when not rationing. In truth it will probably the next 20. That is about what I had January 2012.

I can't afford to stock a reasonable amount of 5 centerfire pistol cartridges, 5 rifle cartridges, 12 ga, etc. 1 rifle cartridge, one pistol cartridge, one muzzle loader, 12 ga, and a MOUNTAIN of 22lr is manageable. Anything outside that is getting sold or relegated to wallflower.

Even the surplus stuff is too expensive now.
 
I still have a large amount in the stash even though I haven't bought a single box in the last 3 years. I will say I have bought 22 rifles dirt cheap when people cant find ammo for them.:D I have enough to keep them fed for the next 5 or so years, shooting at the normal rate.

I have seen these panic's/shortages come and go and have found that there are good deals to be had, at the right times. For those that can, enjoy. For those panicking... AHHHHHHHHH, its all coming unglued. Buy buy buy, more more more. lol
 
Well, good point on ammo, but couple things:

--I had had .22lr ammo stockpiled, for years, in various kinds. Even though I've bought virtually none in last two years, I still have 90% or more of stockpile. So the ammo is a non-issue for me. When the shortage is completely over, I'll still have 50% to 80% I'd guess, and probably closer to 80% - not even close to being a shortage for me (but then again, I don't shoot nearly as much as I'd like). I'd imagine there are some others like me.

--On a tangent of rifle types....Generally, for me, I see the following .22 rifles pointless: Anything with a barrel over 16"; anything heavy-barreled or heavy generally; semi-auto .22s; Anything with a detachable mag. But the following I love and see as anything BUT pointless: Short, light .22s which are SBRs or 16", and have one of the following actions: single shot, or repeaters in pump, lever, or turnbolt, provided there is no detachable mag (tube mag or internal blind/box mag). The only semi-auto .22 I see as having a use, for me, is an AR15 with dedicated .22lr upper, in SBR 10" format, with a "Slide-Fire" doodad, dedicated to Stingers or Velocitors to make that Slide-Fire run.

--Not sure, but perhaps this is a buying opportunity for the future - are .22 rifle prices suppressed due to the ammo shortage? If so, prudence says get the ones you want now.

Mystro, I like that particular Savage - that's the one I'd get if I were getting another one (except it'd be in .17 hummer). But it just occurs to me from that pic, that the "front" part (the pistol grip part) of the stock is ambi (looks like), even though overall it's a lefty stock. The only thing that makes it lefty is the "back" part - the cheekpiece/hump - so what occurs to me is this: I think it would be neat is Savage or others took a stock of that style and simply put that hump/cheekpiece on BOTH sides, so that it's got the best of all worlds: Truly ambi, so a righty can take a lefty hunting shot and vice versa; but yet still of a very interesting thumbhole style.

Wait, my bad - even then, due to the bolt, it wouldn't truly be a lefty... But the bolt handle side, to me, isn't that important (though I know it is for some).... Even if the rifle was sold as a lefty or righty, due to the bolt handle side, such a universal ambi stock as I describe could be made in such as way as to be interchangeable, fitting either receiver (bolt handle cutouts on both sides) - I *think* you could do this, but not sure. Then regardless of bolt handle side, they'd all be "semi-ambi" and would retain more re-sale value (especially important to leftys). Just a random tangent thought - I have an affinity for, and am picky about, rifle stocks, so I'm always thinking how to improve them. I'm also generally a fan of thumbholes.

Well, in fact, right there on your rifle, it's a lefty stock with a right bolt. Not sure why - I'm guessing that the bolt handle on all of them is on the right side, even on the "leftys" like this one -- which, if that's the case, it weighs even more heavily in favor of my ambi thumbhole stock idea - They'd all be ambis (or semi-ambis depending on what you want to call it). There'd be no issue of proper inletting for the receiver. Only drawback is the added weight of the cheek piece being on both sides. Savage could probably charge more, since buyers would know they'd be retaining a better re-sale price (especially leftys). Pretty rifle! It's hard to pretty up an ugly Savage, but they did it with this one.
 
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