Pentagon Confirms Move to 6.8mm

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I think that's only during the development phase of the program. By doing it that way, the manufacturer of the weapon system retains control over the design and development of the ammo for their weapon.
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OK--I guess I didn't interpret that right.
 
I’d like to know more about these weapons, but I guess since they are still in a competition phase the makers are being tight-lipped about the specifics. I think sig is the first to show an actual picture of their submissions.
The other makers have pictures of “similar” weapons and past prototypes.
 
I've also read where a new plant is being built at Lake City to produce the ammo for the cartridge selected in the NGSW program.
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They are preparing for large scale production of the 6.8mm round.

It looks like the winner has to supply ammunition thru the iterative prototyping stage with the Government taking over the bulk of ammunition production during that time period.

Army Ammo Plant Readies for New 6.8 mm Round
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The new building will be the first new manufacturing facility Lake City has constructed in 50 years, Watson added.
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They expect production to begin in the three to four years.

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine...ake-city-factory-readies-for-new-6-8-mm-round
 
They expect production to begin in the three to four years.
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"Construction of the building is expected to begin in the next two to three years, and production of the new round will start in about three or four years, he noted."

So all the troops have 2 years to practice dry-firing?:D
 
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Sig's bimetal case shown in the TFB article looks to be a lot slimmer that some of the other cartridge we've seen. Their proposed cartridge appears to be slimmer and similar in size to a .308 cartridge.
 
My guess is Sig's ammo is required to simply run at the pressure specs of the final LC ammo (which apparently is vaporware at this point).:confused:
 
So all the troops have 2 years to practice dry-firing?
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No...If you READ the thread...:confused:



the weapon system bidder is also going to be the sole ammunition supplier
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The bidder is also bidding on an ammunition supply contract until the Government gets their manufacturing up to speed.

:rolleyes:
 
My guess is Sig's ammo is required to simply run at the pressure specs of the final LC ammo (which apparently is vaporware at this point).
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I do not think SIG's ammo is going to be the winner but that is purely my opinion. The other ammunition submission offer much greater weight/space savings without the pressure issues.

That's just me though.
 
I do not think SIG's ammo is going to be the winner but that is purely my opinion. The other ammunition submission offer much greater weight/space savings
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looking at the ammo, I was thinking The same thing. I don’t know much about the cartridge, but we could stuff a fat cartridge in an AR now, but will gain size and weight.
The telescoping cartridges seems to put more propellant behind the bullet.
 
I’m curious how Lake City is going to build a new ammo factory for an ammunition the Army hasn’t selected yet. Supposedly, it could be a cased/telescoped ammo (AAI Textron) or a brass/steel hybrid (SIG), or whatever the General Dynamics contender is using.

Seems like it would be difficult to start building the factory when the technology underlying the different ammo is so different.

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So all the troops have 2 years to practice dry-firing?
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:D

They’ll probably need it to overcome the flinch reflex.
 
I thought this to be an interesting comparison, although it’s 6.5mm the 6.8 will be similar

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I’m curious how Lake City is going to build a new ammo factory for an ammunition the Army hasn’t selected yet. Supposedly, it could be a cased/telescoped ammo (AAI Textron) or a brass/steel hybrid (SIG), or whatever the General Dynamics contender is using.

Seems like it would be difficult to start building the factory when the technology underlying the different ammo is so different.
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From the article...

The new ammunition will be produced at Lake City after the Army finalizes the weapon, develops the new round and builds a new production facility, he said.

The Army Corps of Engineers has been soliciting for an architect and engineering firm, and design task orders are slated to be awarded by the end of the summer. Following the awards, the service will begin determining the size and scope of the new facility, he noted.


https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2019/4/4/lake-city-factory-readies-for-new-6-8-mm-round
 
Does anyone know how much ammunition will need to be stockpiled in order to support any expected future conflict, at least for the initial part?... I assume production would be ramped up when a conflict does kick off
 
So, Lake City has issued a solicitation for an architectural and engineering firm. And the winning firm will be on retainer for three-four years in the event actual construction begins.
 
I do not think it says that. It says that an engineering firm will be on hand and when a winner is awarded a contract construction will begin.
 
Seems odd to come out with a conventional 6.8 and then go to one of the collapsed in what has to be an all new rifled machine guns to shoot it.
 
I thought this to be an interesting comparison, although it’s 6.5mm the 6.8 will be similar
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Great picture and comparison, 3 silly mm makes not difference, its like 3/24 of an inch
 
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