Pelosi Going to Syria Despite Objections
- Thread starter RERICK
- Start date
BoringAccountant
New member
I think a couple of these points need to be reiterated...
I would say she has the power to negotiate things, but would any of that matter if she got back to the U.S. and asked GW for something? I mean, first she goes against the State Departments wishes, fine...she is stubborn, but then she goes and tries to negotiate with another country when she does not have the backing of the very country she is representing. How can any good come of this?
I agree with this statement, here's my proof...
How is it, that a group of Republican legislators can go to a country seemingly unknown to the average American, but when Pelosi visits, I mean its a huge fanfare? Seems to me, that if I were going to go and negotiate in the Middle East, where quote on quote Americans are hated, I would not tell anyone until I got back. This just goes to prove that she is on her own political agenda and that she is showing off...like "hey, see me, I am here and GW told me not too, ha ha ha" Childish games are all they are, more childish games.
Sorry PP, but thats just total BS...more rhetoric that just goes to prove its just your opinion on how the rest of the world feels...I mean seriously..."the most hated state...ever" As far as the Greece trip, I am sorry to hear that, but I never would have cancelled a trip to another country because I am American...NEVER, matter of fact, I am touring the European area (Hungary, Austria, Czech, Poland, and Germany) this summer. Doesn't mean I am going to carry an American flag on a 10ft. pole above my head, but if someone asked, I would happily be obliged to tell them I am from the best nation the world has ever seen
While I disagree that she does not have the power to negotiate anything, I agree that this is her own way of progressing her political agenda. There is no good that can come of her going abroad to visit foreign leaders. If anything...like
EXACTLY.
I would say she has the power to negotiate things, but would any of that matter if she got back to the U.S. and asked GW for something? I mean, first she goes against the State Departments wishes, fine...she is stubborn, but then she goes and tries to negotiate with another country when she does not have the backing of the very country she is representing. How can any good come of this?
I agree with this statement, here's my proof...
How is it, that a group of Republican legislators can go to a country seemingly unknown to the average American, but when Pelosi visits, I mean its a huge fanfare? Seems to me, that if I were going to go and negotiate in the Middle East, where quote on quote Americans are hated, I would not tell anyone until I got back. This just goes to prove that she is on her own political agenda and that she is showing off...like "hey, see me, I am here and GW told me not too, ha ha ha" Childish games are all they are, more childish games.
Sorry PP, but thats just total BS...more rhetoric that just goes to prove its just your opinion on how the rest of the world feels...I mean seriously..."the most hated state...ever" As far as the Greece trip, I am sorry to hear that, but I never would have cancelled a trip to another country because I am American...NEVER, matter of fact, I am touring the European area (Hungary, Austria, Czech, Poland, and Germany) this summer. Doesn't mean I am going to carry an American flag on a 10ft. pole above my head, but if someone asked, I would happily be obliged to tell them I am from the best nation the world has ever seen
I don't get how you reconcile the silence by Dana / the White House on the republican trip to Syria.
Is going to Syria a bad thing or not? How can you/they condemn one envoy and not another?
One of the findings of the ISG was that we need to talk with countries like Syria. I guess it was just a dumb piece of paper like our constitution.
Is going to Syria a bad thing or not? How can you/they condemn one envoy and not another?
One of the findings of the ISG was that we need to talk with countries like Syria. I guess it was just a dumb piece of paper like our constitution.
Communication is what seperates us from the animals. Not talking to someone just because you don't agree with them is childish. I agree with SecDef that the British did a great job handling their hostage crisis. Our president is incapable of talking to people who disagree with him. I remember Saddam Hussain challenging Bush to a debate before the Iraq war. I wish he had done it so he could have whipped Saddam in a debate. But unfortunatly he just isn't a skilled communicator. Nancy Pelosi is an asset to our government and our country.
FirstFreedom
Moderator
Why is that necessary...mailmen all on strike in Syria?
Actually its the "You need to take your burka off for your drivers license" thread, or the "If you're a taxi driver you need to pick up people whether they have booze or not" thread, or the ever popular, "You can't apply for a job at target and then decide you can't touch pork" thread.
BoringAccountant
New member
thats funny...
No I am def not saying that talking is a bad thing...thats diplomacy. What I am saying is that if she really was concerned about Syria, the Middle East Crisis, or any thing else for that matter relating to world peace, the War in Iraq, etc...I think she would have handled it differently. I honestly believe that this is her way of putting herself out there and forwarding her political career.
I agree that the Bush Admin has made errors...I mean thats blatently obvious, but I would agree with them that talking with Syria, who has been known and will continue to harbor, help, finance, etc. terrorists is just plain stupid.
First, how is that childish? I can see that if you were telling that statement to a child, but when we are dealing with volatile issues in the Middle East and Syria is one of the "bad guys" (I consider them that because they fund and forward the progression of terrorism in the world) there is no point in talking...its just plain stupid.
WOW...:barf: :barf:
Redworm , I just ran this past an attorney who specializes in medical malpractice. His PAID opinion is that Mr. Bolton could successfully sue the aforementioned poster for slander, based on his proclamation of degreed status.
He also said that, depending on the state involved, the Medical review Board could certainly become involved.
Your opinion is, of course, yours. However, nothing that you have stated has any form of proof to back it up.
That's got to be the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. You've obviously never attended a medical malpractice course. Or a medical ethics course. Doctor's, or other medical professionals, have been taught for decades that their opinions carry legal weight. Making statements such as your example would open them to any number of legal issues. Good Samaritan wouldn't help them, either.:barf:
Just for kicks, read the attending link, it deals directly with unsolicited psychiatric opinions.
http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/public/coa/opinions/1997/960534-1.htm
He also said that, depending on the state involved, the Medical review Board could certainly become involved.
Your opinion is, of course, yours. However, nothing that you have stated has any form of proof to back it up.
That's got to be the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. You've obviously never attended a medical malpractice course. Or a medical ethics course. Doctor's, or other medical professionals, have been taught for decades that their opinions carry legal weight. Making statements such as your example would open them to any number of legal issues. Good Samaritan wouldn't help them, either.:barf:
Just for kicks, read the attending link, it deals directly with unsolicited psychiatric opinions.
http://www.aoc.state.nc.us/www/public/coa/opinions/1997/960534-1.htm
Last edited:
DonR101395
New member
Opposing thumbs and lack of tails are what separate us from animals. Most animals communicate fine amongst each other.
A huge difference between not agreeing on what kind of bubble gum to get and not agreeing about promoting mass murder.
Blair did a good job, but you have to be kidding about holding a debate with Saddam. Contrary to some people's belief debate doesn't solve the world's problems. Sometimes you just have to use a bigger hammer and high explosives
Well, at least you got half of the word right.
I suggest you guys look up the content of the message the Pelosi delivered to Syria. It's not unworthwhile.
Here's an Israeli source, which has a vastly different "take" than US papers.
Pelosi should be commended for her first 100 hours, where she pushed through the legislation she promised she would push through. That's pretty hard to do for a first time speaker.
Here's an Israeli source, which has a vastly different "take" than US papers.
Pelosi should be commended for her first 100 hours, where she pushed through the legislation she promised she would push through. That's pretty hard to do for a first time speaker.
Maybe this old Country was once a Nation of order and rules and guidelines to go by but sometime past some folks decided that rules were made to be broken, guidelines were for the brain impaired, noses got longer and began sticking into other's business.
Occasionally the Executive Branch would assume the posture of Julius Caeser,
the Legislative Branch think they were Federal Judges, and the Judicial would
at a whim assume they were Legislative and issue to the people "The Law Of The Land".
And now we are ruled by the whims of liberals and conservatives who spend most of their hours trying to stuff nonsense down each other's throats. How do the ordinary people yell "time out"? Right, wrong, or indifferent, Pelosi will get her reward sometime from God, man, or beast.
Occasionally the Executive Branch would assume the posture of Julius Caeser,
the Legislative Branch think they were Federal Judges, and the Judicial would
at a whim assume they were Legislative and issue to the people "The Law Of The Land".
And now we are ruled by the whims of liberals and conservatives who spend most of their hours trying to stuff nonsense down each other's throats. How do the ordinary people yell "time out"? Right, wrong, or indifferent, Pelosi will get her reward sometime from God, man, or beast.
Pelosi visited Israel yesterday and told her Israeli interlocutors that the country must speak with Assad and that the door should not be closed to Syria, even though she is aware that Syria supports terrorism and continued cooperation with Iran.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/844730.html
So let me see. She knows they are terrorist and yet she is trying to tell Israel that they have to deal with them ? Why don't me just let her tell all the world leaders how to run things. Yeah I'm sure she could fix all that is wrong with the world. NANCY save us all from our selves oh great one
LMAO ROTF
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/844730.html
So let me see. She knows they are terrorist and yet she is trying to tell Israel that they have to deal with them ? Why don't me just let her tell all the world leaders how to run things. Yeah I'm sure she could fix all that is wrong with the world. NANCY save us all from our selves oh great one
LMAO ROTF
BoringAccountant
New member
ok SecDef...I took your advice and read the article...
not sure what you mean by that...hopefully that it was a waste of time
So let me get this straight? You agree that she should have gone to talks with the Syrians when she KNOWS they support terrorism? Second, not only has she opened the door to the Syrians, she has hinted that she will renew dialogue when Democrats regain control!!!
Are you kidding? Not for one second do I believe everything in the MSM, but even if a small portion of this article is true, wow we live in scary times.
If you play with fire you are sure to get burned...
not sure what you mean by that...hopefully that it was a waste of time
So let me get this straight? You agree that she should have gone to talks with the Syrians when she KNOWS they support terrorism? Second, not only has she opened the door to the Syrians, she has hinted that she will renew dialogue when Democrats regain control!!!
Are you kidding? Not for one second do I believe everything in the MSM, but even if a small portion of this article is true, wow we live in scary times.
If you play with fire you are sure to get burned...