Pelosi Going to Syria Despite Objections

Oh please. Talking to the enemy is not anything near helping the enemy or giving aid to the enemy in any other way. Some of you really need to get a grip.
 
Same old liberal hijinks. So suppose that you think Pelosi is in the right on this one ?
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Like Michibilliy stated above, opening a dialog with an enemy is nowhere near conspiring or encouraging them. In fact most great politicians have made their mark on history by doing the same thing.

It seems to me the bipartisan study mentioned in the articles said it would be a good idea to reach out to Syria and Iran in these times instead of taking the stubborn cowboy approach that the Bush administration refuses to vary from. Seems like the only bad things the article had to say about the trip where quotes from administartion officials.

However, Bush is so much in the pocket of the Saudi royal family that he is more willing to risk being humiliated by being photographed holding hands with the prince than he is to offend his Saudi bosses. Saudis are one of the top sponsors of terrorism but will you ever see Bush turn on his buddies?
 
Saudis are one of the top sponsors of terrorism but will you ever see Bush turn on his buddies?
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Saudi's just commented that the US should get out of Iraq, too.

W must be very confused right now.
 
Lets not forget the Saudis who flew into the towers

Getting away from Pelosi a moment, lets not forget that Saudi Arabians
flew the hijacked airliners into the twin towers. Big Oil, Big
Saudia Arabia........Friends of the American Public? No, Nein, Nyet, Iye,
Nunca..........Wahabi Islam..........never in a blink of the eye!!!!!!!
 
How does this look to the rest of the world?
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Wait, since when do conservatives give a rat's ass about the rest of the world's opinion? If you actually did care what the rest of the world thought you'd be pushing for Bush to get on national television, apologize for his massive pooch-screw and ask the international community for help in solving a situation that he created and is utterly incapable of fixing.
 
Wait, since when do conservatives give a rat's ass about the rest of the world's opinion?
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Well, it's like Parents and children, or God to Cain. Just because parents want to know what their kids are thinking doesn't mean it matters. Just because God asked Cain where Abel was, didn't mean that the Good Lord had no idea what was going on.

Yes, I just made an analogy that suggested America as the parent and lord of the whole world, with every other country being its children. Hell yeah.

Embrace our Trident II missiles, Ohio-class submarines, and our Ford Excursions.
 
The Point is, that diplomacy is the function of the executive branch, Not the legislative. Pelosi is acting against the interest of the United States by usurping the function of the Executive Branch. It is Unconstitutional. It also confirms the opinions of our enemies that our country is weak and divided.
 
The Point is, that diplomacy is the function of the executive branch, Not the legislative.
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Diplomacy is the work of diplomats...be they presidents, congressmen, or ambasadors. Throughout history diplomatic missions have been carried out by everyone from the top of the political ladder right down to Shirley Temple.

Congressman and senators often make overseas trips to show goodwill and to strike up dialogues. This is nothing new.

The mesage this sends is that not all American politicians are "our way or the hiway cowboys." Bush's foreign policy is a failure and something else obviously needs to be done and he seems unwilling and uninterested.
 
I have never understood where the Congress members get off traveling to foreign countries and negotiating in any manner. According to the Constitution, the conducting of Foreign policy is STRICTLY the responsibility of the Executive Branch. The Dems have made a lot of noise about Constitutional duties and responsibilities lately. Can you say Hypocrite!!!
 
It also confirms the opinions of our enemies that our country is weak and divided
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Exactly right.
Put any type of spin on it you like, But, Diplomacy is still the function of the executive branch, Not the legislative.
 
As I read the Constitution

There is nothing forbidding a member of Congress from engaging in diplomacy, nor can the Executive forbid a Legislator from doing so.

What Speaker Pelosi is doing is uncommon, and might well be considered a breach of protocol or tradition, but it violates no law.

Executive authority over the the Legislature is very, very limited. The reverse isn't true, no matter what John Yoo thinks.

Pelosi's on solid legal ground here.
 
Wait, since when do conservatives give a rat's ass about the rest of the world's opinion?
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I believe your underestimating the average Conservative.

I am no fan of this mess in Iraq either. When it began I was cautiously optimistic and thought " time will tell" Time has passed and my optimism is gone but still lets try to keep America in as good a light to the world as we can under the present circumstances. we are very divided as a nation over this but lets try to keep those views at home and not so blatantly in front of the whole world.
 
However, THAT wouldn't generate any sort of information that could be spin-doctored properly in the upcoming elections. Democrat or Republican, the idea that politicians with zero experience or authority can somehow aid in the United States policies is ludicrous.

Does anyone here want to bet that Ms. Pelosi is actually trying to help anything but her OWN political future?

Just a thought. Would we be so tolerant of the Speaker of the House going to the UN and embracing the Gun Control agenda in open session? It wouldn't be illegal, after all, the experts have already weighed in on that.:barf:
 
Just a thought. Would we be so tolerant of the Speaker of the House going to the UN and embracing the Gun Control agenda in open session? It wouldn't be illegal, after all, the experts have already weighed in on that.
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How would that in anyway relate to this issue? One is an issue of international diplomacy with an enemy that needs addressed and the other would be stating a person opinion.
 
Insanity

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Albert Einstein


This is what we are doing right now.
 
i wish pelosi and hillary would both move to syria. dont you think they would look nice covered head to toe in a burka?
 
How would that in anyway relate to this issue? One is an issue of international diplomacy with an enemy that needs addressed [sic] and the other would be stating a person [sic] opinion.
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The principle is the same. What is Pelosi going to do with Syria? She hasn't the power to negotiate anything. Essentially, she is using her elected position to express her personal opinion to Syria. I believe that is identical to the example I stated.

How you define "issues of international diplomacy" is your opinion. The same with importance. Should she, perhaps, include China, Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, and Venezuela and Cuba in the list? After all, she's doing her Jesse Jackson Minister without Portfolio imitation, anyhow.

What actually needs to be done is to stop appointing political cronies to diplomatic missions. Both parties are guilty, and have been since after the Civil War. It's not any president's fault that we aren't taken seriously. Our State Department, and it's Senior positions, are political plums, and we put synchophants in place, instead of qualified people.

Sticking another drive-by politician into the mix undermines those few working relationships already established. A politician actually intelligent enough, and caring enough, to do their own job would press for a strong diplomatic corp, and let them do their job. She is neither.
 
And just what "working relationships" has the current administration been able to establish? Most embassadors have no authority to negotiate anything either. Only on rare occasions are they given the power to broker a deal. Most are just a show of good faith and making a step towards stable relations.

All of Pelosi's enemies should see this as an opportunity. Maybe they will keep her. I am neither a fan nor a dtractor of pelosi (other than her gun laws stance).

I just know the current adminstartion has completely screwed the pooch and something needs to be done and the sooner the better.
 
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