Pathetic: Where is our government?

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I am not convinced that 10 logisticians from Harvard could take over the south given the complete and utter disaster of leadership that is going in the south .While I understand that there are serious issues going on, but this disaster was already inked in stone before the storm rolled through.

Why?

1)Think about this: Was the national gaurd staged and ready to go after the storm?

2)Has the president taken charge?

3)Where is the military to restore order?

4) Where are the military water trucks?


Let me put it this way folks. Stock up ammo, food and water. As it stands, if anything like this happens again, no one is coming to help you.

Don't believe me? http://www.giltweasel.com/stuff/LightsOut-Current.pdf
 
There are a number of issues and it is easy to say where's this and where is that? Uncle Sam is dealing with an area of devastation the size of Britain.

It takes a little time to get organised to deal with an emergency which is the reason most survivalists keep a minimum of a few days supplies on hand.
 
What?

According to the way a lot of people apparently think here, it's not the government's responsibility to provide hurricane relief.

In fact, WHERE in the Constitution does it say "provide hurricane or other natural disaster relief?"

It's illegal for the goverment to do it, then!

OK, I have to admit, I'm impressed that no one seems to be actually arguing that.

yet.
 
I did not say that. He is the leader. Period. I voted for him, but he needs to be kicking tush right now. He is just kicking his own tush.

Note to moderator: I changed the impolite words.
 
Ptown Beretta,
I am not convinced that 10 logisticians from Harvard could take over the south given the complete and utter disaster of leadership that is going in the south .
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...I can't say that I know exactly WHAT you mean by that statement, :confused: but it sounds as if you are blaming the chaos on the fact that we'uns is soooooo dumb down heah in the south...
Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding your point?
 
I am saying the leaders have failed. The people are suffering. Logisticians get it done. Politicians think about getting it done. I have respect for people that can live in that squalor. I myself would have been long gone.
 
1)Think about this: Was the national gaurd staged and ready to go after the storm?
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That question should be posed to the governor of Louisiana.

2)Has the president taken charge?
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The Constitution does not provide for the President to "take charge" of a state or part of a state.

3)Where is the military to restore order?
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If you mean the federal military, I think the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibits the use of the military for domestic law enforcement.

4) Where are the military water trucks?
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Iraq and Afghanistan?

Sorry, but these questions smell of foregone conclusions adding up to Bush-bashing.
 
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Sounds like armed looters are thwarting rescue efforts--they could be doing a better job if guns weren't everywhere.

Be careful before you invest total responsiblity, because you'll get total authority in return.

To pre-position the kind of response needed for this event in every possible location in the US would triple our annual taxes--and rarely be called upon. Stock up 7 days worth of food, water, and means to protect yourself and be ready to hunker down as the wheels get to turning. Don't rely on the government as much as you do yourself.

That said, we need to haul butt and help--but Monday morning quarter-backing on this (and yeah, its too late to think about this now--the disaster is in progress and the time to prepare is before) is irresponsible in my opinion.

(Although, George Bush is responsible for global warming and the Iraq war)
 
Actually, if you would have bothered to do some research, you would have known that Bush declared a national emergency BEFORE the hurricane hit so that FEMA was on standby. But I am starting to rethink my opinion on the literacy capacity of some folks here. Just MHO.

And, why didn't the state, the governor work to reinforce the levies after 1965 and 1969? Many pres's have been in office beforehand, dem and replub, so how is now Bush's fault?

The effort to evac is in order, kind of hard to do so when criminals are shooting at helo's but I guess that is Bush's fault also by not signing gun control laws (in case you haven't noticed, we are on a gun board). What do you expect them to do?

And for those that think that Bush should have "ran down" to N.O. and pored himself out of a mike, instead of you bitching that he "wasn't there" you would have bitched about him being there. In front of cameras and such poring out his heart felt sadness.

Now, I realize that Bush and the administration isn't perfect, they can't be. To expect them to be so is stupid. We elected a leader, we bitch about what we think is going wrong, but how can we, second guess this or that when we don't have the intell, information, or are in his shoes?

If you want a perfect leader for yourself and your country, turn to God, because that is as good as it gets!

Until then, stop the whining, the bitching, the "I hate Bush" crap unless you feel that you can do better, and then run for freakin office.

Geez :rolleyes:

Wayne
 
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If the gobal warming treaty had been signed the best guess is it would reduce temp by 7/1000 of a degree per 50 years and cost the US 200B dollars per year. Clintoon and the US congress voted it down with one desenting vote. The whole thing is a scam and anti US agiprop. The war now thats open for debate until we see if the plan to change the middle east works.....about 50 years from now. But then the terrs blowing up NY, tell me again why thats a bad thing? (Kidding monitor) But it will take something like that to get the country on board until that time its Clintooon/dem biz as usual...
 
"Ok, it is illegal? We can wage war in Iraq for Iraqi freedom but we can't help out own citizens?

Ok."

Did I SAY it was illegal?

No.

But given the train of thought I've seen in some poster's messages here over the past few months, it obviously should be illegal because it's not written out ver batim in the Constitution.

I'm just waiting for that point to crop up by someone making it in all seriousness.
 
Is what illegal? Context - context in threads.
We just oked 10 billion dollars to help and have mobilized 125,000 troops what exactly would you have us do? :confused:
 
"And, why didn't the state, the governor work to reinforce the levies after 1965 and 1969? Many pres's have been in office beforehand, dem and replub, so how is now Bush's fault?"

The levees are, by law, Federal responsibility because the Mississippi and Lake Ponwhatever are part of the interstate waterways system. At least that's my understanding.

I heard this evening that some years ago a bill to allocate $150 million or so to strengthen and repair the levees and coffers was reduced by over half by Congress.
 
I don't want to change the topic too much, but this type of devastation is the result of people building where they shouldn't. There used to be wetlands along the Gulf of Mexico states that would help to not only weaken the storms but also serve as a buffer to the inland.

Face it folks, our population in this country is growing and living mostly in areas where these 'unwise' developments are taking place...it was only a matter of time for something like this to happen...and it will happen again.

I understand that none of the above statements help with the current problem...and the best that we can do now is come together and help folks. But at the same time, we need to think (or rethink) for the future.
 
I heard this evening that some years ago a bill to allocate $150 million or so to strengthen and repair the levees and coffers was reduced by over half by Congress.
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yeah Ive already seen the usual suspects whining that our Alaska congressional delegation hasthe blood of the victims of the levee breaks on their hands becasue of all the highway "pork" we get up here, instead of using the money down there....


Face it folks, our population in this country is growing and living mostly in areas where these 'unwise' developments are taking place...it was only a matter of time for something like this to happen...and it will happen again.
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I defy any of you to find me one place in the world where humans live that is immune from the forces of nature. when the big guy tosses the dice and the earth shakes, the dam breaks or the wind howls anybody can buy the big one....anyone

WildreadstoomuchgeologichistoryAlaska
 
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