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Mom catches son with...AK-47

Global National with files from Canadian Press

Thursday, January 05, 2006

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(Courtesy http://kalashnikov.guns.ru)

Most moms catch their kids with cigarettes, dirty magazines, or trying to sneak out of the house.

Not this mom.

A Toronto woman is being praised by police Thursday for turning in her son, after finding a fully loaded AK-47 machine-gun sitting atop his bedroom pillow, along with an additional magazine full of bullets.
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Toronto police Chief Bill Blair says it was a difficult choice, but adds it was the right thing to do, and that the woman set a standard for others to follow.

The 17-year-old, who is bipolar, cannot be identified. He made a brief court appearance today on 13 charges, including several firearms charges and possession of cocaine.

He was ordered to remain in custody, which Blair agrees is a safer place for the teen.

The woman says she has no regrets about turning over her son, adding she's showing him some "tough love."

"Otherwise you are harbouring a criminal," she said. "And your child will never get the help he needs."

"I believe this was a cry for help."

She said the teen is bipolar and has a history of violence which has landed him in trouble with the law in the past.

Also happening in Toronto Thursday, Premier Dalton McGuinty announced a $51-million package for more police officers and prosecutors in response to 52 gun deaths in the city last year. The package, includes expedited training of police recruits, more Crown prosecutors dedicated to gun crimes, and a construction of a $26-million operations centre for a gangs-and-guns task force.
© Global National 2006

Microbalrog Sez - Now what kind of mother is that?!
 
A mother that is waking up to the poor parenting she did.

As much as I love the 2nd amendmant, a bi-polar 17 year old canadian(that also happens to posses cocaine) needs an AK like a boar needs ****. Hopefully the kid will get the help he needs.

What happend to the sterotypical polite Canadian?
 
This one is kind of a tough call. On the one hand, she is doing what she believes is right, and, dare I speculate, removing a possible threat (bipolar, violent, and apparantly sneaky enough to get a gun). On the other, she is co-operating with the anti-gun agenda, and removing this individual's freedom.

I really don't know what to think at this point.
 
"On the other, she is co-operating with the anti-gun agenda, and removing this individual's freedom."

You have got to be freaking kidding!?!?!

It is the mentaly unstable with guns that got us the Brady bill to begin with! Or have we forgotten the attempt on Reagan's(God rest his soul)life and the assasination of John Lenon(sp?)?
 
I think the mother did the right thing there. This isn't about 'gun rights' (especially since they don't have them in Canada) it's more about a mother recognizing her unstable teenage kid doesn't need an illegal weapon.
 
The mother did the right thing. The kid is unstable, violent, and a drug addict who managed to get an AK type rifle. What is not said is that he must have gotten it illegaly.

Those who find fault with this mother should consider what they would have said if this nut job shot up a school or shopping mall with his AK if the mother hadn't turned him in!
 
Good for her!

In fact, id go out on a limb and set forth that any child under the age of 18 that is discovered by a parent with a gun should be arrested and charged like any adult with an illegal gun, and a parent that does not do this is guilty of neglect

This does not take into account firearms possessed with a parents express permission.

WildsostartflamingAlaska

PS..the title of this thread is typically misl;eading
 
A mother that is waking up to the poor parenting she did.
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+1. Turning her son in might be the right thing to do as far as the law is concerned, but it is a sketchy situation based solely on morals, and is a horrible follow-up to 17 years of not being a good mother. People who say it is a tough call answer that way because they are probably good enough parents to raise their kids the right way, and have a tough time imagining their child in that situation. I, for one, believe that turning your kid in to the police is not tough love. It is, in fact, the last step to officially giving up on your child. "they are no longer my responsibility" "it is up to the police now." "its out of my hands" " I am showing him tough love."
 
Cocaine + Violent History + Bipolar + AK47 = Bad Juju.

Sounds like this mom knows her kid.

My little brother was in a similar boat about a year ago. We suspected drug use (he was 19 at the time) and found paraphernalia, he had stolen lots of money from people, had a violent and loud history and was bipolar/A.D.D.

All problems were dealt with and he is now clean as far as we can tell, and is out of hock with the people he owed money to.

He owned a semiauto rifle at the time and was considering either suicide or violence at the time.

I "bought" the rifle from him. He wasn't responsible enough for it. He'll get it back one day (I haven't even shot it), but not until he is responsible enough for it. Probably another year or two at the progress he is going.

This mom was spot-on as far as I'm concerned. I wish my parents turned in my brother rather than handling it privately. I went with the "family" way of doing it, though, despite my own wishes.
 
A mother that is waking up to the poor parenting she did.

As much as I love the 2nd amendmant, a bi-polar 17 year old canadian(that also happens to posses cocaine) needs an AK like a boar needs ****. Hopefully the kid will get the help he needs.
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+1 My thoughts exactly as I was reading the article.
 
A mother that is waking up to the poor parenting she did.
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Part of me agrees with that statement, and part doesn't. Sometimes no matter what you teach them, they turn out stupid or rotten or both. And when they have serious mental problems on top of it, she could have been mother of the year and it would have made no difference at all.....
 
Except for the bi-polar thing that could be my oldest ( and yes I admit that he is the product of bad parenting)

I would have a hard time turning him over to the police, but if I had no other option to get him help I would have to.

If private counseling or drug rehab was not an option or had not worked what else is there when other lives are at risk
 
Sometimes no matter what you teach them, they turn out stupid or rotten or both. And when they have serious mental problems on top of it, she could have been mother of the year and it would have made no difference at all.....
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When my babies were born, I looked everywhere I could think of but you know what? Not one of them came with a guarantee.

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Before I got married, I had six theories about bringing up children. Now I have six children and no theories. -- John Wilmot

You know that parable about the prodigal son? Who's the dad supposed to be? -- one of my kids at age 6
 
If she was a bad parent, she wouldn't have done anything at all. You don't get bi-polar disorder from bad parenting. That's why they call it a dis-order. It is a malfunction in the brain. She did the right thing. Mentally ill people have no buisness not being supervised, let alone possessing an assault weapon.:cool:
 
If you are unstable and have mental problems, or are addicted to drugs, you have no business having a firearm. I believe the mother did the right thing.

Now if only the parents of the kids that shot up columbine would've done the same thing. how many lives would've been saved?
 
Hmm...I thought bipolar disorder was an inherited disease... often transmitted on the X chromosome... boys have a y chromosome from their father and an x chromosome from their...mother :confused:

Never mind. :o
 
The kid is unstable, violent, and a drug addict who managed to get an AK type rifle
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Actually, several points:

1. He's "had problems with the law in the past". We don't know if he was guilty - or whether the "problems with the law" constitute getting into one of 'em fisticuffs.

2. Do I really need to point out that there's hundreds of people there who are 'mentally ill' according to some psychiatrist, and are actually as trustible as you can expect?

I know people who have been diagnosed X, or Y, and then had other psychiatrists let them off it and decide they are completely healthy.

3. He's 'charged with posession of cocaine'. There's no evidence he's addicted to it, using it, or even guilty as charged.
 
She is the parent. She did what she believes to be the correct thing. If any of you came to my house and started telling me or my wife that we were raising our children incorectly, I would quickly put you out of my house.

She gets to do what she believes is correct in her house regarding her children (excluding obvious things, like beating them, raping them and so on).

Point is - you stay out of my house and I will stay out of yours.
 
Nobody is going into her house... but we do have the right to express our opinions.

And in my opinion, turning your own child in for a victimless crime is morally wrong.
 
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