Over-The-Top ParaMilitary MindSet?
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Sparks2112
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In general the para military types are sort of, funny...
That having been said.
You're applying your broad personal experiences to EVERYONE in a blanket statement. Sometimes 8 rounds isn't enough, sometimes you need a 2nd gun (not to mention the first one), sometimes you're young and live in an area that most WOULD consider a war zone because that's all you can afford.
Everybody is different. Which I think is a good thing to try and remember.
That having been said.
You're applying your broad personal experiences to EVERYONE in a blanket statement. Sometimes 8 rounds isn't enough, sometimes you need a 2nd gun (not to mention the first one), sometimes you're young and live in an area that most WOULD consider a war zone because that's all you can afford.
Everybody is different. Which I think is a good thing to try and remember.
I've got mixed feelings about this thread. I am a former LEO, former active duty military, and am currently an infantryman in the Army National Guard awaiting deployment to a war zone, and I get fed up by some of the over the top wannabe posing mentioned by the OP too.
I also recognize that it is easy to imagine the combination of circumstances that could lead to many men who have never served in the military or law enforcemet to be called on to fulfill their responsibilities as a member of the militia in the same way that many of our forefathers have.
I think that one is wise to prepare for a worst case scenario, whether that might be a natural disaster, personal emergency, or general breakdown in society.
There is a huge difference between being prepared for emergency and living as though we are in a state of emergency. The former is common sense, the latter is paranoia.
I also recognize that it is easy to imagine the combination of circumstances that could lead to many men who have never served in the military or law enforcemet to be called on to fulfill their responsibilities as a member of the militia in the same way that many of our forefathers have.
I think that one is wise to prepare for a worst case scenario, whether that might be a natural disaster, personal emergency, or general breakdown in society.
There is a huge difference between being prepared for emergency and living as though we are in a state of emergency. The former is common sense, the latter is paranoia.
Delaware_Dan
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The people he is talking about know who they are, and if it's not you, don't worry about it.
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Mannlicher
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MaxHeadSpace
Yep, my first thought was that you were being just another know it all troll. Boy was I wrong. I am just so glad you cleared all that up for me. Its comforting to know that when there is a question, one of our expert members will give us the final word.
Yep, my first thought was that you were being just another know it all troll. Boy was I wrong. I am just so glad you cleared all that up for me. Its comforting to know that when there is a question, one of our expert members will give us the final word.
scorpion_tyr
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Absolutely right. Don't overstep your bounds as a civilian, let LE do their job.
Are you saying a firearm in the hands of anyone besides active duty military or law enforcement is not a weapon? Are you serious? Webster defines a weapon as an "Instrument used in fighting or hunting". I define it as anything that be used to intentionally cause bodily harm to another. Rock, pencile, firearm, ICBM, etc. If a firearm is not a weapon, what is it?
Please realize that many of the members here do not reside within the United States. Many are from countries where they very well may be in a war zone. And in some neighborhoods, running to the store IS a tactical maneuver. Everywhere I go, anything I do, I think about it with a tactical mind. And yes, that's on duty and off for me. There's nothing wrong with that, it's called being prepared, having a plan, expecting the unexpected, etc.
Very good. Anyone who sleeps with a weapon under their pillow is asking to have an accident. I always suggest keeping the weapon just out of reach from the bed. That prevents all sorts of bad things. Only question is what kind of weapon did you have that you had to "park"?!
Already answered, but I drive a Jeep and I don't drink beer.
I got news for you, 1:00 PM is indeed 1300 HRS. 18 Dec 08 is indeed December 18, 2008. The only difference is how people say/write/type it. It's all a matter of personal preference. I don't recall reading any forum rules about time/date display. If it becomes confusing for you just subtract 12 from any time that has 13 or greater as the first two digits. Then add PM to it and you have your time.
Bug Out Bags are for anyone who may have to "bug out". That includes anyone who lives in an area where they may have to quickly evacuate because of tornadoes, fires, hurricanes, flash floods, ice storms, loss of electricity, sand storms, hostile invasion forces, etc. I think at least one of these would apply to just about everyone on the planet. If you're talking about the actual Bug Out Bag, they are for anyone who wishes to pay $69.99 for them. Their sale is not restricted in the US.
Congratulations on living in a nice town/neighborhood and/or being lucky for 60 years. Many are not so fortunate. I'm only 25 years old, I have been robbed, beat up, stabbed, and spit on. I've also been faced with deadly force three times in my life. I'm still here. Did I have a gun in those three situations? No, I did not. Do I wish I had been carrying? In 2/3 of those yes I do. It would have saved a lot of time and risk. Also, I would love to know where you got your crystal ball. I've been looking for one that is as accurate as yours must be to have so much confidence those things will never happen to you.
Yes it is, until you are attacked by nine or more people. Or you miss one or more times, or one round isn't enough to stop one or more of them. As for being someplace one has no business... My business takes me to many "bad places". Many other members here are in the same boat. I live in a bad neighborhood? Do I have no business to protect my home if faced by a threat where eight rounds is not enough? Eight rounds is enough... for your average threat. It is not enough for people who are minding their own business in a nice part of town and suddenly find themselves the target of a dozen or more angry rioting people. And oh yes, that has happened, does happen, and will happen again.
So you don't lock your doors and take a last look outside before you go to bed? You get to sleep in a bed, some do not. Some people might have nothing more than a "rack". Congratulations once again on your prosperous life and your nice neighborhood.
That's nice. I'm sorry to hear your car lacks the means to transport or carry something. I'm also sorry to hear you do not own your car, that it's not your personal property. I'm also sorry to hear that you bought a very small and useless knife.
I got news for ya pal. When I'm in uniform, when I'm carrying my issued sidearm I guess I'm on this "force" that you speak of. When I'm in blue jeans and a t-shirt at Wal-Mart, or when I'm in my boxer briefs at home watching HBO, I am not. I have no more power or authority than any other civilian. Either way I have just as much right to defend my life, my loved ones, and my home from any threat that I feel potentially theatened by. I have never run across anyone on this thread who claimed to be in the military and was not.
Many of the terms you described above are used out of personal preference or they are used to more acurately and/or easily describe something. And why should they conform to your standards? Don't they have a left... oops I mean a right to say what they want, how they want... I think it comes right before that other right that seems to be a big hit on this sight.
You obviously have led, and expect to continue living a very safe, happy life in a completely crime-free area. Many of the members here, including myself do not have that luxury. What your personal situation calls for when it comes to firearms is never the same as someone else. I do fall under your "exception clause", except I don't want to. What gives me the right to say 1300 while others can not? I took an oath to defend some rights a while back. Since your a member of this forum I assume you're a fan of one of them, here's a hint. It's called the Second Amendment. Here's another hint... there's one right before it. It's called the First Amendment. Look it up.
There are countries out there that are indeed war zones. I'm willing to bet that out of 62,000 members there are some who reside in those countries. No, the United States is not a war zone. It is not because we have the legal right to carry whatever kind of weapon, and as many of them as we want. There are many neighborhoods inside the US that could very well be described as war zones. Don't believe me? Shreveport, LA. Go stand on the corner of Lakeshore and Jewella after the sun goes down. If you choose to do so, the chances of your five, or even eight bullets being enough are very very slim.
Thank you for your post, and for using that right that I'm afraid you are unaware of. There were some things I agreed with you on, and many I did not. I do hope that you live the rest of your days without regretting your ignorance.
12GaugeShuggoth
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+1 to scorpion_tyr. While it may be nice that the OP has not been the victim of a violent act in his 6 decades, not everyone is so fortunate.
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