One Million Mom's for Gun Control - new anti-US Constitution movement

There are none so blind as those who will not see...



that gun control legislation won't stop a monster determined to kill innocents.

Looks like denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Could these people be anymore divorced from reality? (yeah, that's a rhetorical question :rolleyes: )

Man, they're talking about circumventing HIPAA, making new "databases", going after CCW laws and supporting all sorts of other power grabs by the government. Truly sickening...it really is all about people control. :mad:
 
Ugh, I think I might have thrown up a little reading that pile of feces from Mike Thurston.......what a d-bag.

Let's face it though, we all knew this kind of response was coming.
 
I read about them a few days ago. I'm not worried.

However, they made one inaccurate argument that's a useful one to us. They compared themselves to Mothers Against Drunk Driving. The comparison is deficient for a couple of reasons.

First off, MADD focused on a specific, dangerous behavior: drunk driving. They had no intention of restricting access to automobiles, or to prohibition or taxing of alcohol.

Second, they had great success in staying focused on that goal. They wanted to punish drunk driving without harming the law-abiding. It worked. The legal standard for DUI was dropped, penalties were enhanced, and it worked.

If a group wants to emulate that approach in tackling gun violence, I'd be right with them. The problem is, we don't punish those who should be. Example? The ten-year prison sentence for straw purchases of firearms. It's rarely enforced. In fact, several of the guilty parties involved in Fast & Furious are on probation as I write this.
 
I changed the headers to 1,000,000 m's because Google is a meta search engine. If google picks up this thread in a search, it will "advertise" their website. Hopefully I changed it soon enough.

Either way, after a certain period of time, it might be good for moderators to Zap this thread.

This response to the Ntown CT incident is a "lynch mob" mentality, so a quick decisive action is more effective and long term has less effect.
 
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Emotion, irrationality, shrillness, anti Founding Fathers, and Constitution, untrue arguments solely to promote their agenda. Surprised by the source?
 
Rather than debate there, it would be better to create a 1M Moms against gun control page. Facebook wars work differently...

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/18/mom-launches-gun-control-crusade/1776929/

S.W. launches 1 M M's for GC after Connecticut school shootings

(Photo: Charlie Nye, The Indianapolis Star)
Story Highlights

Mom hopes to counter NRA with online group
More than 1,600 people have joined S. W's online effort
Group aims to lobby for stronger gun laws

INDIANAPOLIS -- For SW, the shock of the Connecticut school shootings quickly turned to anger — and then to action.

The Zionsville, Ind., mother of five, drawing on her days as a public relations executive with Fortune 500 companies, used social media during the weekend to launch a new organization: One Million Moms for Gun Control. Her goal is to counter the powerful influence of the National Rifle Association.
 
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This quote below does not represent my views, this information below is just to let you know what is going on.

Originally Posted By Mil M's for GC:

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‎1 Mil M's for GC, I'm really proud of MY Congressman, Jim Hotel india mike echo sierra. He's not waiting to get our million letters to take sensible action. Please encourage our CT members (especially in Congressional District 4) to sign Congressman Hs' petition. P.S. Merry Christmas Eve :)
Demand Tougher Gun Laws | Jim H for Congress

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Anna Please share if you are also proud of our CT-4 D.C. Rep H!
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Anna You can still threaten to hold back support later if you're currently in slight disagreement/negotiations with Jim H...
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www dot hotel india mike echo sierra forcongress dot com / Petition



Demand Tougher Gun Laws
It's time for America to act. Add your name to the petition to stand with Congressman H in calling for strong, common-sense gun laws.

I urge the President and Congress to act on a comprehensive package of gun safety legislation that will take military hardware off the streets, make high-capacity gun magazines illegal, and reinstate the assault weapons ban.
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I just posted a response on the 1meg GC facebook page. I blamed the shooter and the state legislature that allowed the Sandy Hook shooting to occur. I can feel the incredulity now. :cool:
 
Demand Tougher Gun Laws
It's time for America to act. Add your name to the petition to stand with Congressman Himes in calling for strong, common-sense gun laws.

I urge the President and Congress to act on a comprehensive package of gun safety legislation that will take military hardware off the streets, make high-capacity gun magazines illegal, and reinstate the assault weapons ban.
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I'm sorry your posting was unintelligible (to me) as to what point you were making. However I suspect that these bottom lines I have quoted may be a summation of your opinion.

So here's my response:
Is a woman who is dead after being raped by a armed attacker morally superior to a woman who just used deadly force to legally stop an armed rapist from assaulting her?

It seems under the anti gun view of the world we have no choice but to suffer brutal attacks, rape of our women and even death because antis feel the need to strip our constitutional rights away. Just exactly what kind of thinking is that? You feel empowered to deny others their lawful rights!

But hey lets examine your potential position at length.. So what is the average response time of your police department? Lets be really generous and say that the average response time is three minutes... Do you want to be that victim that is enduring for three minutes under some attacks baseball bat, blade or bullet wounds or other unspeakable horrors? What if your spouse or children is under attack and you aren't home? I guess in your view that's a unfortunate happening... Could anti thinking be more archaic and unenlightened?

Here's some facts: First the police are under no requirement to even respond to your 911 call, provided your attacker for whatever reason allows you or someone else to call... Doubtful you will be calling during a beat down but then again the anti stance was never based on facts or logic... Second even if the police arrive at the scene in three minutes it may take more time for them to find your exact position at the scene and more time yet to control and apprehend the attacker... Third more and more attacks are being committed every year by groups of young thugs, so your police may need backup to even proceeded to extract you from the situation.

Or finally lets say the guy is a three hundred pound gorilla how has road rage and decided to see if your heads tougher than the sheet metal of your car, while your unarmed family and small children are terrorized while watching you getting beaten to death because you are unable to physically defend yourself from the attacker... The anti gun stance has no answer for how the victim is suppose to survive...

Lastly the founders of our nation believed that rights were natural and inherent and were not subject to the will of government. That is in other words these rights exist with or without government and do not come from government. Of course the anti position knows nothing of our rich heritage...

If I have misunderstood your post then you have my apologies.
 
I am trying to expose the threat to the Second Amendment, and counter a response by "liking" pages on Facebook or signing Petitions to the Congress and Senate.
 
Limit the scope of concealed weapon laws at the state level.

This is all you need to read to correctly gage the intellect of these folks. 100% "thinking" with emotion, 0% with their brains. These shootings had nothing to do with concealed carry except for the fact that CC was not allowed in these malls/schools. Additionally, there is just NO evidence that CC leads or has led to increased violence, especially by the carriers. In fact, it's just the opposite.

Makes you realize you are, in reality, dealing with fanatics.
 
I like the way they do math, too. One Million Moms, and they've got what? Maybe 20K? Alrighty, then. It's like the Million Dad marches that show up with a couple of hundred. My whole thought is "Where is everybody else? We're not going to need all these porta-potties."

This is knee-jerk stuff, guys. It's also the reason I don't do facebook anymore. I realized it was a time sink, and that the folks weren't users, they were the product.
 
I think a lot of people do not realize how Facebook works.

If you "like" a page, EVERYTHING that page posts shows up in a "News Feed." When you log into Facebook on your main page you see ALL of the posts from ALL of the pages in real time that you clicked "like."

FB is a LOT faster than the internet because you can browse 1000 news sources simultaneously in real time. Doing that by going to every website would be impossible to do on a frequent basis.

Further, when you choose to share a post or link or information that you found, it is instantly transmitted to EVERY person on your friends list to their "do everything" mobile device.

B O is using FB with wicked efficiency. Although many of this 34 million "likes" were purchased he still has enough base on his FB to likely reach millions, with goals to reach more.

Gun Owners often shy away form social media and, in the end, that might prove to be a costly mistake.
 
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Gun Owners often shy away form social media and, in the end, that might prove to be a costly mistake.
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@Holartic

I honestly think you're onto something with this statement. I'm not the most proficient user of Facebook but I agree with you that a pro 2A presence on Facebook, Twitter and other social networks would benefit greatly.

One thing I would suggest to anyone thinking of starting a Facebook group or page that is Pro 2A is that there will be a lot of hostile people baiting such a page. The one rule that needs to be followed is to always respond to these people pleasantly and the other thing is to really push the "educating the public" aspect of providing information.

It would be prudent, even when being baited, to respond with a factual and non confrontational response. People find it very hard to be mean to people they realize aren't being mean back. It's not foolproof as there will be trolls who just want to troll but the thing about trolls is that they don't hang around for very long if they can't get a rise out of you. Don't react negatively to them and they will leave because there just isn't any fun in trying to rile you. So in essence it's a win/win policy.

As for twitter, it's easy to use it as a simple information deployment system but the true power with Twitter, actually Facebook also, is to engage the people who are replying to the account posts and draw them into a non confrontational discussion. If they are getting going overboard with being offensive then just let them know that you are more than happy to talk to them but only if they refrain from personal attacks since you aren't attacking them.

Certainly not hard-set rules but a rule that if followed fairly closely will at least show outsiders that we are not a collection of gun nuts and we are actually nice and pleasant people who are more than happy to provide their point of view as well as some educating facts that might make outsiders "think."

Just my two cents on this idea.
 
IMHO the 1MMFGC should look at the facts of how many rapes and muggings have been prevented due to guns, but then again emotion trumps facts. :(
 
Whatever you do. DON'T name the group "One Million Guns For Mom Control."

I'm sorry, I couldn't help it. That line has turned into a joke among myself and my friends.

Sorry, once again but I've been dying to mention that joke and I did contribute useful info to the thread about 2 posts back.
 
Limit the scope of concealed weapon laws at the state level.
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So they wanna limit the thoroughly background checked individuals that have to be current on their taxes, child support ect. And must pretty much walk a straight line to keep their license? That makes a lot of sense.
 
"Limit the scope of concealed weapon laws at the state level. "

So they wanna limit the thoroughly background checked individuals that have to be current on their taxes, child support ect. And must pretty much walk a straight line to keep their license? That makes a lot of sense.
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Actually, they edited that.
It had called for anyone that's ever been arrested on a charge of domestic violence to be denied a concealed carry permit.

Just goes to show how little they know and what low regard they have for little things like rights and justice....

What's really scary is these people both vote and sit on juries..
 
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I like the way they do math, too. One Million Moms, and they've got what? Maybe 20K? Alrighty, then. It's like the Million Dad marches that show up with a couple of hundred.
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Last "Million Mom march" I heard of had around six thousand moms.

One million people is less than 1/3rd of one percent of the population.
One million sounds like a lot till you realize our population is in the hundreds of millions.
 
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