Ok, who's buying the 50th anniversary flattop?
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I didn't ask about politics, please feel free to confine your discussions to their products, I've asked politely many times now.
I don't care about your deep personal convictions
, the resultant continued namecalling and sidetracking, it's pointless.
Here's a few links for people who haven't heard/seen it yet.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/index.html
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-NewVaquero.htm
I don't care about your deep personal convictions
, the resultant continued namecalling and sidetracking, it's pointless.Here's a few links for people who haven't heard/seen it yet.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/index.html
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-NewVaquero.htm
The only downside I see, so far, is the red case. I bought one of their anniversary(sp?) MarkII's. The red just screams. The quality of what's inside the case does, however, nullify the unattractiveness (I'm probably the only one who feels this way) of the red case. I wish they would have picked black instead of the red.
After going to the link posted, I'm now salivating and hyperventilating. Put me on the 'gotta have' list for the flattop.
After going to the link posted, I'm now salivating and hyperventilating. Put me on the 'gotta have' list for the flattop.
FF & joab
You have every right to an opinion and to buy guns from whomever you please . However , instead of hijacking this one , show some manners and forum courtesy and start another thread . ... Just thought I'd add that Ruger is selling 20 rd Mini14 mags again in the same white box as before . Also , the Mini 14 GB police model is now available in blue or stainless .
caz223
We started seeing the MKIII Hunter's and New Vaquero in the past two weeks . They're getting positive attention . Especially the .22 . Sold several .
You have every right to an opinion and to buy guns from whomever you please . However , instead of hijacking this one , show some manners and forum courtesy and start another thread . ... Just thought I'd add that Ruger is selling 20 rd Mini14 mags again in the same white box as before . Also , the Mini 14 GB police model is now available in blue or stainless .
caz223
We started seeing the MKIII Hunter's and New Vaquero in the past two weeks . They're getting positive attention . Especially the .22 . Sold several .
There was no hi-jack. The question was asked if we would buy a particular gun from a particular manufacturer.
We gave our answer and explained why, just as everyone else here has.
Perhaps you all should show some manners and either address the issue or ignor it, instead insulting us for our beliefs and positions and making baseless acusations
Just thought I'd add Bill Ruger did help push the AWB. And coincidentally some of his guns which should fit right into the EBR mold are specifically exempted by name.
Welldaddy43
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The title of the thread is "who's buying", not who's bitching or bashing...meaning he his only looking for positive information.
I like the new Blackhawk and the Scout Rifle. But the Alaskan....I do not know about that, I have others that fill that niche.
I like the new Blackhawk and the Scout Rifle. But the Alaskan....I do not know about that, I have others that fill that niche.
If it were meant to be a Ruger pet fest it should have been labled as such.
If you are not interested in the opinions of gunowners don't post on a general gun forum.
If you are not interested in the state of gunownership in America today then bury your head in the sand and continue to kiss the ring of the master.
If you are tired of my opinions then don't respond to them.
It doesn't take much intelligence to see that other than our initial posts stating our opinions on whether we would buy the gun (the topic of the thread, duh) Neither FF nor myself have posted anything other than responses to your responses to our responses
So just what do you anti-Rugerites own in the way of handguns?
Auto-Ordnance? Owned by the son of the Moonie cult?
Beretta? They are about the only no excuses stand up company out there.
Browning/FN? Socialist Belgians who'd sell you out in a heartbeat? Where's the FNC for civilians anyway?
Colt? Dabbles in smart gun technology, partly owned by the anti-state of Conn.
Charter? Which version of the company?
Charles Daly? At least they are somewhat pro-gun in the Phillipines
CZ? It's hard to complain about them so I have to do more research.
Dan Wesson? Can you find one?
EAA? Go ahead support anti-gun socialists abroad.
Glock? Ballistic fingerprinting anyone? Or is Jannuzo on 60 Minutes already ancient history?
H&R? At least they were out of the handgun business when it was pure.
H&K? You don't think they wouldn't sell you out in a moment to preserve a gov't contract instead?
IMI? Everyone wants a Deagle after all.
Jennings? One would suit your attitudes.
Kahr? There's that Moonie thing again.
Kel-Tec? They are pro-gun, then again you'll probably go through more than one on warranty.
Kimber? The pistol festooned with the lawyer safeties and supporting the socialist economy of New York?
Llama? See EAA.
Norinco? Buying the finest in Chinese slave labor are we?
Para? Support the anti-gun Canadian economy?
Rossi? See Taurus.
Ruger? Nah, we ruled that one out already.
SIG? Supporting Germans is like supporting the French.
SA? America's Oldest name in foreign imports from anti-gun Brazilians and Croats who may or may not be wanted for war crimes?
Smith? Whaddabout THE AGREEMENT?
Steyr? The only thing worse than German socialists are Austrian ones.
Taurus? Hailing from anti-gun Brazil, and in partnership with the NJ smartgun project.
Walther? Sleeping with the enemy over at S&W, besides, they have that German problem.
Though this list is TIC, you deadly serious politicians out there had better be like true believers and divest yourselves of your politically impure handgun holdings. You must not be able to imagine buying from the enemies of America, be they domestic sell-outs, or just foreign opposition to our national security endeavors!?! I want to see you all packing Berettas or H&Rs by next week as they are about the only ones who can pass the "staunch NSSF member/staunch political ally or just a dead handgun company test."
IOW, one can find something politically incorrect about almost all manufacturers, some sillier than others, all about as silly as continuing to kick a dead man when his company just made their first really concealable auto pistol and is now selling full cap 9mm magazines since the AWB death. Their actions are louder than old Bill's words these days. I am giving them time to get out of the old man's shadow a little bit because they are showing signs of inching out of it. A .454 snubbie, for crying out loud, would not have made it off the computer screen under Mr. Ruger. The Ruger company will respond to the market and I scarcely doubt we'll see them pushing any facet of a renewed AWB. The aftermarket will take care of the Mini and its magazine problem soon enough.
So just keep sucking that dried lemon because your bitterness is amusing. Principles indeed. Certainly selective principles at that.
Auto-Ordnance? Owned by the son of the Moonie cult?
Beretta? They are about the only no excuses stand up company out there.
Browning/FN? Socialist Belgians who'd sell you out in a heartbeat? Where's the FNC for civilians anyway?
Colt? Dabbles in smart gun technology, partly owned by the anti-state of Conn.
Charter? Which version of the company?
Charles Daly? At least they are somewhat pro-gun in the Phillipines
CZ? It's hard to complain about them so I have to do more research.
Dan Wesson? Can you find one?
EAA? Go ahead support anti-gun socialists abroad.
Glock? Ballistic fingerprinting anyone? Or is Jannuzo on 60 Minutes already ancient history?
H&R? At least they were out of the handgun business when it was pure.
H&K? You don't think they wouldn't sell you out in a moment to preserve a gov't contract instead?
IMI? Everyone wants a Deagle after all.
Jennings? One would suit your attitudes.
Kahr? There's that Moonie thing again.
Kel-Tec? They are pro-gun, then again you'll probably go through more than one on warranty.
Kimber? The pistol festooned with the lawyer safeties and supporting the socialist economy of New York?
Llama? See EAA.
Norinco? Buying the finest in Chinese slave labor are we?
Para? Support the anti-gun Canadian economy?
Rossi? See Taurus.
Ruger? Nah, we ruled that one out already.
SIG? Supporting Germans is like supporting the French.
SA? America's Oldest name in foreign imports from anti-gun Brazilians and Croats who may or may not be wanted for war crimes?
Smith? Whaddabout THE AGREEMENT?
Steyr? The only thing worse than German socialists are Austrian ones.
Taurus? Hailing from anti-gun Brazil, and in partnership with the NJ smartgun project.
Walther? Sleeping with the enemy over at S&W, besides, they have that German problem.
Though this list is TIC, you deadly serious politicians out there had better be like true believers and divest yourselves of your politically impure handgun holdings. You must not be able to imagine buying from the enemies of America, be they domestic sell-outs, or just foreign opposition to our national security endeavors!?! I want to see you all packing Berettas or H&Rs by next week as they are about the only ones who can pass the "staunch NSSF member/staunch political ally or just a dead handgun company test."
IOW, one can find something politically incorrect about almost all manufacturers, some sillier than others, all about as silly as continuing to kick a dead man when his company just made their first really concealable auto pistol and is now selling full cap 9mm magazines since the AWB death. Their actions are louder than old Bill's words these days. I am giving them time to get out of the old man's shadow a little bit because they are showing signs of inching out of it. A .454 snubbie, for crying out loud, would not have made it off the computer screen under Mr. Ruger. The Ruger company will respond to the market and I scarcely doubt we'll see them pushing any facet of a renewed AWB. The aftermarket will take care of the Mini and its magazine problem soon enough.
So just keep sucking that dried lemon because your bitterness is amusing. Principles indeed. Certainly selective principles at that.
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Taurus is bad because they are produced in an antigun country, But Beretta is good even though they are produce in an anti gun country.And you forgot the Taurus/Smith connection, you're slipping
My father ia a Baptist teacher. I'm neither Baptist nor a school teacher
Yep
There's that whole sins of the father thing again
You mean the agreement made by the former management and not honored by the present?
Already heard that one. I'd get into it but that's a whole nother thread by itself
Browning/FN? ,EAA?,Steyr? ,Walther?
Are these companies goverment owned.
My pro Americanism is not the same as your anti every one elseism
You're good. You can tell that I'm a hypocrit just by my stance on Ruger. Or possibly you're just reverting to that weak old attack their integrity if I have no real argument tactic
No, I am resorting to the old "Your friggen argument against Ruger is silly and let me illustrate why."
Your owning/carrying a Taurus 85 is really all I needed to know. Is their participation in the New Jersey smartgun project better, worse, or equivalent to the role William Ruger played in the AWB? That's beside the point--evil in this example doesn't come in shades. Wow, some people had to go out of their way for full cap mags for exactly ten years in part because Ruger originally proposed a 15 round mag limit that Metzenbaum reduced to ten? Let's kick his company for the next hundred years!
The project Taurus is neck deep in proposes to end the sale of all civilian handguns in New Jersey that are not smart gun compliant once it succeeds. That's pretty damn evil in my book. Not only that, it is evil without a sunset.
As to my tarring the son with the "sins of the father" in regard to Kahr/AO, isn't that exactly what you are doing to the Ruger Corp. for the sins of its father?
Or was that too subtle?
Yes, some of my examples are silly, but then again all of these "eternal boycotts" are at some level or other.
Your owning/carrying a Taurus 85 is really all I needed to know. Is their participation in the New Jersey smartgun project better, worse, or equivalent to the role William Ruger played in the AWB? That's beside the point--evil in this example doesn't come in shades. Wow, some people had to go out of their way for full cap mags for exactly ten years in part because Ruger originally proposed a 15 round mag limit that Metzenbaum reduced to ten? Let's kick his company for the next hundred years!
The project Taurus is neck deep in proposes to end the sale of all civilian handguns in New Jersey that are not smart gun compliant once it succeeds. That's pretty damn evil in my book. Not only that, it is evil without a sunset.
As to my tarring the son with the "sins of the father" in regard to Kahr/AO, isn't that exactly what you are doing to the Ruger Corp. for the sins of its father?
Or was that too subtle?
Yes, some of my examples are silly, but then again all of these "eternal boycotts" are at some level or other.
Slipping again. The 85s are about 10 years old and were bought used
Thee are many that believe that the various gun company's involements are aimed at disproving the technology. Taurus also did not help author or push the bill. I'm still researching the whole thing
No
Subtle wasn't the word I was thinking of
This line of conversation between the two of us is becoming the hi-jack that I have been accused of. Perhaps you should statr a new thread that would also invite others into the discussion without hogging someone else's
OK, let's please continue with "Whos buying" the 50th Anniversary flattop!
I myself, didn't want to get lost in this "Wake" of "Politic's(And, disagreements!)! And, I'm not taking sides on this issue(Which I also feel, doesn't belong in this original thread!)but, only to point out, that this new, 50th anniversary "Flattop" is an interesting gun(In it's own right!)and, I(As a "Newbie", regarding "Flattop's!)certainly, want to learn all I can about these revolvers(And, "Who is buying the 50th anniversary flattop?)? So, can we just drop all of this "Jargon" about politic's-and continue on, about the original "Topic" of this thread? Now, where were we?
I myself, didn't want to get lost in this "Wake" of "Politic's(And, disagreements!)! And, I'm not taking sides on this issue(Which I also feel, doesn't belong in this original thread!)but, only to point out, that this new, 50th anniversary "Flattop" is an interesting gun(In it's own right!)and, I(As a "Newbie", regarding "Flattop's!)certainly, want to learn all I can about these revolvers(And, "Who is buying the 50th anniversary flattop?)? So, can we just drop all of this "Jargon" about politic's-and continue on, about the original "Topic" of this thread? Now, where were we?
And it is an _especially_ interesting gun since it is essentially an old gun reintroduced. It is precisely what so many of us would like to see from other companies as well. Ruger was well aware that a lot of us would love to own an original Flattop but just couldn't justify that amount of money. If you can find one for sale! So Ruger took the basic design and stayed as faithful to it as they could. They added a transfer bar but I'm willing to live with that. They added an integral lock which I _thought_ was going to kill the design when I first heard about it. But they managed to put the lock _totally_ out of sight. And it doesn't "compromise" the integrity and strength of the lockwork in any way. That's the kind of lock I can live with. It's some excellent engineering all the way.
Now if only we could get some other companies to follow their lead. S&W _said_ they were going to do it with the Model 21 but then they put a gold plated logo on one sideplate and a hole in the sideplate on the other side. And they want $800 for it! I could probably think of at least half a dozen guns I would be happy to buy "new" if they were reintroduced by somebody. But they better do it as well as Ruger has with the Flattop or I'm not buying.
Gregg
Who's buying the 50th anniversary flattop?
tulsamal:
Excellent explanation of the new, 50th anniversary flattop! Although I'm not an expert regarding Ruger single-action revolvers, my "Thoughts" were exactly like everything that you have described, in great detail(Perfect, for this "Newbie"!)and, just what I liked to hear! Thanks!
tulsamal:
Excellent explanation of the new, 50th anniversary flattop! Although I'm not an expert regarding Ruger single-action revolvers, my "Thoughts" were exactly like everything that you have described, in great detail(Perfect, for this "Newbie"!)and, just what I liked to hear! Thanks!
I prefer longer barrel revolvers (on anything that is not intended to be a concealed carry animal). So, if Ruger decides to offer the new flattop with the 7.5" barrel (as is available with the standard Blackhawks), then I'm there ... probably twice, if I could get a .357 and a .44 Special.
dogfood
dogfood
I was thinking about this revolver and the new Vaquero just this morning. I'm really excited about the new smaller frame, etc. But I really don't want to buy still more .357's and .45 Colts. I'll buy one of the Anniversary models but anything more is going to take some other calibers. I've been lobbying for .44 Special for a lot of reasons. And I keep hoping .41 Magnum is possible since the cartridge is slightly smaller than .44 Magnum which means a little more steel. But then I realized this would be the PERFECT revolver for Ruger to introduce a long sought wildcat. Why not make these guns in .41 Special? It would create a splash and some extra sales to people who have to have one of everything. And it would make a lot of dedicated revolver people very happy. I would buy AT LEAST one of those!
I think that's my New Year's Wish!
Gregg
I think that's my New Year's Wish!
Gregg