NRA is getting on my nerves
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OneInchGroup
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If the NRA is getting on your Nerves.....
Then you had best better not ever turn on any network TV, or listen to any of the gazillion antigunners that pop all over the Internet every time somebody fires a gun in the heat of the moment, whether it be a criminal or a cop or a soldier!
NRA is a single purpose organization and makes no bones about that.
What gets on my nerves is that all of us get ourselves into the nitpicking game with every group working FOR us, but spend little or no time screaming bloody murder about the oppositions' lies and distortions and sheer craziness.
Let's drop support for the NRA so Chuck Schumer can get another bill through the DC laughing academy outlawing half our guns because they have black stocks instead of pink.
Let's drop support for the NRA so Mayor Nagin can get his cops to run around and confiscate guns people need to fight off the gangs roaming New Orleans.
Let's drop support for the NRA so Kennedy and Kerry and AlGore can put together a whisper campaign to convince the sheeple that all our deer guns are really terrorist sniper rifles.
Maybe we'd better get a little nuts about raising the standard of noise we make in behalf of US, and send a few extra bucks to keep our loudest and strongest voice alive, instead of doing this pissant " they don't do everything exactly my way, so I'll just sit back and not be involved anymore" kind of thing.
Anyone not actively in the hunt to protect our RTKBA is a real boon to the other side.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! YOU NEED TO GO RIGHT HERE AND PLEDGE TO NEVER BE A BACKSLIDER AGAIN!!!
JUST A THOUGHT, OF COURSE, NO OFFENSE, OF COURSE, SORRY IF I GOT ON YOUR NERVES, OF COURSE.
Then you had best better not ever turn on any network TV, or listen to any of the gazillion antigunners that pop all over the Internet every time somebody fires a gun in the heat of the moment, whether it be a criminal or a cop or a soldier!
NRA is a single purpose organization and makes no bones about that.
What gets on my nerves is that all of us get ourselves into the nitpicking game with every group working FOR us, but spend little or no time screaming bloody murder about the oppositions' lies and distortions and sheer craziness.
Let's drop support for the NRA so Chuck Schumer can get another bill through the DC laughing academy outlawing half our guns because they have black stocks instead of pink.
Let's drop support for the NRA so Mayor Nagin can get his cops to run around and confiscate guns people need to fight off the gangs roaming New Orleans.
Let's drop support for the NRA so Kennedy and Kerry and AlGore can put together a whisper campaign to convince the sheeple that all our deer guns are really terrorist sniper rifles.
Maybe we'd better get a little nuts about raising the standard of noise we make in behalf of US, and send a few extra bucks to keep our loudest and strongest voice alive, instead of doing this pissant " they don't do everything exactly my way, so I'll just sit back and not be involved anymore" kind of thing.
Anyone not actively in the hunt to protect our RTKBA is a real boon to the other side.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! YOU NEED TO GO RIGHT HERE AND PLEDGE TO NEVER BE A BACKSLIDER AGAIN!!!
JUST A THOUGHT, OF COURSE, NO OFFENSE, OF COURSE, SORRY IF I GOT ON YOUR NERVES, OF COURSE. For the first time in 12 to 15 years the NRA is endocring candidates. They endorced Clinton and the other SOCIALESTS by not telling us who was for and who was against guns. Now they are awake and trying.
In Virginia Kilgore is the man to remove "ONE GUN A MONTH" from us.
You can either send the NRA money [Take your name off everything.]or put somebody else's junk mail in their post paid envelope and send it back.
In Virginia Kilgore is the man to remove "ONE GUN A MONTH" from us.
You can either send the NRA money [Take your name off everything.]or put somebody else's junk mail in their post paid envelope and send it back.
hksigwalther
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Just curious, what exactly did you expect from the NRA in terms of backing candidates as it relates to firearms?
Generally speaking, (much) more often than not, the politicians that back the 2A also hold the same ideals as I do.
IMO, although guns and gun rights may not be the center focus of you world, they are quite important to mine. Not just to have something to do on my off time but as an indicator of freedom. Sounds idealistic from the right side of the view but it is my opinion.
Gary Conner
New member
It is THE most important reason to vote
Personally, in consideration of the manner in which we are rapidly moving toward militarization of our government, the stance of a candidate on how hard they will work to try and preserve our Constitutional rights for as long as possible, is the very most important issue determining who gets my vote and financial support, period.
I would vote for anyone, (regardless of their views on social security issues) if they felt as vehemently as I do about maintaining our first, second, fourth and fifth amendment rights EXACTLY as they are written.
Keep in mind, the NRA is the first Cival Rights organization ever organized in the United States. Their only purpose, is to preserve your most basic rights as long as they can, in their fight against the never ending effort on the part of the Leftists, to "make us a global village" for the "betterment" of mankind.
GMC
Personally, in consideration of the manner in which we are rapidly moving toward militarization of our government, the stance of a candidate on how hard they will work to try and preserve our Constitutional rights for as long as possible, is the very most important issue determining who gets my vote and financial support, period.
I would vote for anyone, (regardless of their views on social security issues) if they felt as vehemently as I do about maintaining our first, second, fourth and fifth amendment rights EXACTLY as they are written.
Keep in mind, the NRA is the first Cival Rights organization ever organized in the United States. Their only purpose, is to preserve your most basic rights as long as they can, in their fight against the never ending effort on the part of the Leftists, to "make us a global village" for the "betterment" of mankind.
GMC
Don't mean to hi-jack..but,
I just joined up, payed for 2 years just to see what it's like. I got my hat in the mail & was really expecting a membership card... a bumper sticker... a book with membership benefits..... list of scheduled events... SOMETHING, but all I got was the hat & 1 paper.....asking for more money! Just wondered if this is to be expected or if I will be getting something else
Again don't mean to steal the thread, just thought it fit here & didn't want to start another just for this question.
I just joined up, payed for 2 years just to see what it's like. I got my hat in the mail & was really expecting a membership card... a bumper sticker... a book with membership benefits..... list of scheduled events... SOMETHING, but all I got was the hat & 1 paper.....asking for more money! Just wondered if this is to be expected or if I will be getting something else
Again don't mean to steal the thread, just thought it fit here & didn't want to start another just for this question.
OneInchGroup
New member
NRA Membership gets you...
a real membership card, that will be sent separately from the hat, a subscription to whichever magazine you signed up for, a nice paper membership certificate "suitable for framing", and yes, you will get more requests for contributions.
Why that surprises anyone always mystifies me. Being a VFW and American Legion,and Republicrat Party menber, I can cripple my mailman with the weight of all the donation requests from them, just as much as with NRA, and you can be sure that SAF and RTKBA members get the same level of requests for "special programs" support.
With the NRA, the main point is to be supporting the only organization that specifically aims to protect your Second Amendment rights and has no other side issues to distract from that. I kind of think it's also worthy of note that NRA is this country's oldest civil rights organization, a claim that cannot be made by any of the other "me too" groups out there trying to gain some legitimacy by claiming to be even more pro-RTKBA than NRA.
Some of these groups have been around, like, less than 10 years? And they're supposed to be able to do a better job than NRA, that's been at it around 125 years or so, (I'm not sure when they started, but the American Rifleman Magazine has been published continuously for 119 years so far...)?
Have to wonder who's kidding who, sometimes.
The disclaimer: Yep, I"m an NRA Life Member. Got the hat, the badges, the silver bullets, etc. etc. Some of it's a little silly, but overall, when the SHTF, these guys are the 800 pound gorilla I want to have fighting on my side.
a real membership card, that will be sent separately from the hat, a subscription to whichever magazine you signed up for, a nice paper membership certificate "suitable for framing", and yes, you will get more requests for contributions.
Why that surprises anyone always mystifies me. Being a VFW and American Legion,and Republicrat Party menber, I can cripple my mailman with the weight of all the donation requests from them, just as much as with NRA, and you can be sure that SAF and RTKBA members get the same level of requests for "special programs" support.
With the NRA, the main point is to be supporting the only organization that specifically aims to protect your Second Amendment rights and has no other side issues to distract from that. I kind of think it's also worthy of note that NRA is this country's oldest civil rights organization, a claim that cannot be made by any of the other "me too" groups out there trying to gain some legitimacy by claiming to be even more pro-RTKBA than NRA.
Some of these groups have been around, like, less than 10 years? And they're supposed to be able to do a better job than NRA, that's been at it around 125 years or so, (I'm not sure when they started, but the American Rifleman Magazine has been published continuously for 119 years so far...)?
Have to wonder who's kidding who, sometimes.
The disclaimer: Yep, I"m an NRA Life Member. Got the hat, the badges, the silver bullets, etc. etc. Some of it's a little silly, but overall, when the SHTF, these guys are the 800 pound gorilla I want to have fighting on my side.
Ummph.
Okay, first. I support the NRA. I'll put that right up front, and in bold, so everyone will see it. I think most of the folks running the show are doing the best they can.
But your reasoning is sloppy.
Over the past 125 years, have we seen an increase or a decrease in our ability to exercise the RKBA? Is the 2nd Amendment today more respected or less respected than it was a century ago?
125 years ago, you could legally carry a handgun in New York City ... without a permit.
Today? Don't make me laugh.
The NRA might be the best thing out there, but if they were doing such a bang-up job for all the past 125 years, things would look a mite different today than they do. They've made plenty of mistakes all along the way.
Maybe the new kids on the block have learned from the NRA's mistakes, hmm?
Or maybe not.
Time will tell.
Meanwhile, I don't diss either the new kids or the old hands. My only complaint about the NRA is that I wish it were more extreme. Since everyone hates them anyway, they don't have much to lose by carrying the banner a little more proudly.
pax
"My only complaint about the NRA is that I wish it were more extreme. Since everyone hates them anyway, they don't have much to lose by carrying the banner a little more proudly."
They could lose everything! First, not everyone hates them; they have support of many conservative (and a few liberal) politicans across the country. If the NRA started taking extreme stands, it would be harder for those politicians to offer that support since they would be skewered in the press, and, as always, their number one interest is to get re-elected. Like it or not, the NRA must play political games.
Tim
They could lose everything! First, not everyone hates them; they have support of many conservative (and a few liberal) politicans across the country. If the NRA started taking extreme stands, it would be harder for those politicians to offer that support since they would be skewered in the press, and, as always, their number one interest is to get re-elected. Like it or not, the NRA must play political games.
Tim
The NRA is the biggest bang for the buck..IMO
Thats why the anti crowd hates them...they have teeth to go with the bark.
not to mention the lobbying power in Congress and state legislatures.
That is why FEMA is looking at the Gun Ban Rule
Right now they are buying advertising and billboards to stand up against Conoco-Phillips who changed the rules and a paper mill fired employees for possesing firearms in thier personal vehicles on company parking lots....
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2005/10/10/story2.html?page=1
Im bettin Conoco may find the meaning of when you grab em by the short and curlies thier hearts and minds will follow.
Thats why the anti crowd hates them...they have teeth to go with the bark.
not to mention the lobbying power in Congress and state legislatures.
That is why FEMA is looking at the Gun Ban Rule
Right now they are buying advertising and billboards to stand up against Conoco-Phillips who changed the rules and a paper mill fired employees for possesing firearms in thier personal vehicles on company parking lots....
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2005/10/10/story2.html?page=1
Im bettin Conoco may find the meaning of when you grab em by the short and curlies thier hearts and minds will follow.
OneInchGroup
New member
NRA VS. Everybody????
Seems we're back to the original problem again.
NRA isn't perfect, so let's sit and pick nits and withhold support until they become the perfect mirror of me and mine........
Meanwhile, a dozen other groups with no track record to speak of and limited resources, and NO access to any politicians because of their extreme approach, are siphoning off members and funds that might be better directed to the ONLY group that can actually mix it up with the Feds and the likes of FEMA, etc. effectively.
We need to quit shooting ourselves in the foot and look at who's really working for US. If all the Anti's know and hate the NRA, what does that tell you about who should be getting the bulk of our support?
I'm going with the outfit that Chuck Schumer and fat Teddy and the lovely Ms Feinstein all regard as the only real impediment to their agenda, the NRA!
Risking being criticised for repeating myself..................
JUST A THOUGHT, OF COURSE, NO OFFENSE, OF COURSE, SORRY IF I GOT ON YOUR NERVES, OF COURSE.
Seems we're back to the original problem again.
NRA isn't perfect, so let's sit and pick nits and withhold support until they become the perfect mirror of me and mine........
Meanwhile, a dozen other groups with no track record to speak of and limited resources, and NO access to any politicians because of their extreme approach, are siphoning off members and funds that might be better directed to the ONLY group that can actually mix it up with the Feds and the likes of FEMA, etc. effectively.
We need to quit shooting ourselves in the foot and look at who's really working for US. If all the Anti's know and hate the NRA, what does that tell you about who should be getting the bulk of our support?
I'm going with the outfit that Chuck Schumer and fat Teddy and the lovely Ms Feinstein all regard as the only real impediment to their agenda, the NRA!
Risking being criticised for repeating myself..................
Anyone not actively in the hunt to protect our RTKBA is a real boon to the other side.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! YOU NEED TO GO RIGHT HERE AND PLEDGE TO NEVER BE A BACKSLIDER AGAIN!!!
http://membership.nrahq.org/default.asp?campaignid=XP018099
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! YOU NEED TO GO RIGHT HERE AND PLEDGE TO NEVER BE A BACKSLIDER AGAIN!!!
http://membership.nrahq.org/default.asp?campaignid=XP018099
JUST A THOUGHT, OF COURSE, NO OFFENSE, OF COURSE, SORRY IF I GOT ON YOUR NERVES, OF COURSE.
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Just Lookin
New member
OIG.... I couldn't get your link to work, so here's a link to the page that I just used to join 
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp
(Hope this one works)
Jim
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp
(Hope this one works)
Jim
OneInchGroup
New member
NRA Links
Just Lookin:
Sorry about that link. I fixed it so it works now. The one I put up also gets you a 2 year membership at
American Slugshooting Association as a freebie (Like No Charge for Membership Dues), so I'd reshuffle the signup if I were you......... Just a thought...
Just Lookin:
Sorry about that link. I fixed it so it works now. The one I put up also gets you a 2 year membership at
American Slugshooting Association as a freebie (Like No Charge for Membership Dues), so I'd reshuffle the signup if I were you......... Just a thought...
MicroBalrog
New member
So lessee.
Essentially, what you’re saying is this: “The GOA/CCRKBA/whoever have little resources and are ineffective, so don’t give them any resources.” One wishes to quote Leo Tolstoy: “A man who is supported by half a million bayonets can afford to have a lousy style”. If GOA had a million members, I’m sure more people in government would listen to them than do today.
OneInchGroup
New member
NRA VS. The Next In Line
MicroBalRog,
Yep, what I'm saying is Tolstoy's dead, the other groups are not going to have enough power or membership to do us a great deal of good in our lifetimes, and I tend to back the winner, or at least the best contender, when the outcome matters.
It's called pragmatism.
If you are more concerned with the niceties than the realities, then by all means support all the other groups, and next presidential election, vote the Libertarian Party, just to make sure all your political activities are 100% ineffectual.
After all, if the gun grabbers ultimately succeed, then futile political "Statements" is all that will be left for the new subjects of the new "Global Village."
First RTKBA goes, then speech then assembly and gee, suddenly we're not the USA, we're Hillarystan! Good choice.........
MicroBalRog,
Yep, what I'm saying is Tolstoy's dead, the other groups are not going to have enough power or membership to do us a great deal of good in our lifetimes, and I tend to back the winner, or at least the best contender, when the outcome matters.
It's called pragmatism. If you are more concerned with the niceties than the realities, then by all means support all the other groups, and next presidential election, vote the Libertarian Party, just to make sure all your political activities are 100% ineffectual.
After all, if the gun grabbers ultimately succeed, then futile political "Statements" is all that will be left for the new subjects of the new "Global Village."
First RTKBA goes, then speech then assembly and gee, suddenly we're not the USA, we're Hillarystan! Good choice.........
There are many reasons why I won't join the NRA...but since the topic is elections....one of my biggest problems is that the NRA absolutely refuses to endorse Libertarian candidates. Whatever you all may think of libertarian philosophy..the truth is that the Libertarian Party is the only one that fully and completely supports our right to keep and bear arms. The republicans talk a great game until they get elected...and then they do terrible things like sign bills eliminating so called "gun show loopholes".
ClarkEMyers
New member
I've seen the NRA endorse Libertarian candidates but not losers
I've seen the NRA endorse Libertarian candidates but not losers. I've even helped with wildlife research that was supported in part by the NRA (grouse feeding study at WSU). When Libertarians are offering something to the NRA besides lip service instead of asking for something then come back and complain. (I've been a registered Libertarian but I haven't seen them win much - the most I've gotten out of it was a stack of leftover Clark bumper stickers years ago)
As noted we are in it for the long haul. First your local gun club, then your state association, then the NRA, then everybody else.
I sat through the long night at Cincinatti and some other places to make the NRA better. Gun Week and some of the other groups have earned the undying gratitude of NRA members more for helping keep the NRA straight than for any other accomplishment other groups made on their own. Asking the NRA to preserve your personal rights is like relying on 911 when you are being attacked in your own home - you need to do something locally yourself and the NRA will provide eventual backup, or range assistance and insurance or training or lots of other things but the NRA won't do it for you. Local, State, National in that order.
Patron Member
I've seen the NRA endorse Libertarian candidates but not losers. I've even helped with wildlife research that was supported in part by the NRA (grouse feeding study at WSU). When Libertarians are offering something to the NRA besides lip service instead of asking for something then come back and complain. (I've been a registered Libertarian but I haven't seen them win much - the most I've gotten out of it was a stack of leftover Clark bumper stickers years ago)
As noted we are in it for the long haul. First your local gun club, then your state association, then the NRA, then everybody else.
I sat through the long night at Cincinatti and some other places to make the NRA better. Gun Week and some of the other groups have earned the undying gratitude of NRA members more for helping keep the NRA straight than for any other accomplishment other groups made on their own. Asking the NRA to preserve your personal rights is like relying on 911 when you are being attacked in your own home - you need to do something locally yourself and the NRA will provide eventual backup, or range assistance and insurance or training or lots of other things but the NRA won't do it for you. Local, State, National in that order.
Patron Member
NRA doesn't support libertarians? Then it sounds like some libertarians need to join the NRA and be represented.
I know there are plenty of other excuses not to join the NRA, but none of them are valid, IMHO. If you don't like what an organization is doing, all it takes is enough members with your views to change it.
Join some of the other groups, and be vocal in your state and local governments, too. Nothing worng with the SAF, GOA, or JPFO.
They're all going to ask for money and they all need it. They are all going to endorse candidates they think are going to be able to effectively push the issue. Not getting elected makes them ineffective.
Things have gotten bad in the last 125 years with gun control. There have been a lot of other controls and regulations put in place since then. Gov't has gotten outof control on all fronts. Fortunately, we have these organizations to stand up for us in the gun control department.
I know there are plenty of other excuses not to join the NRA, but none of them are valid, IMHO. If you don't like what an organization is doing, all it takes is enough members with your views to change it.
Join some of the other groups, and be vocal in your state and local governments, too. Nothing worng with the SAF, GOA, or JPFO.
They're all going to ask for money and they all need it. They are all going to endorse candidates they think are going to be able to effectively push the issue. Not getting elected makes them ineffective.
Things have gotten bad in the last 125 years with gun control. There have been a lot of other controls and regulations put in place since then. Gov't has gotten outof control on all fronts. Fortunately, we have these organizations to stand up for us in the gun control department.