NICS Instant Check
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kilimanjaro
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The first NICS check on my purchase took until the next day. It was a new system, it happened to some folks.
Since then, NICS is taking less than 3 minutes to approve for me, and it's been more than a few purchases.
Since then, NICS is taking less than 3 minutes to approve for me, and it's been more than a few purchases.
Hunter Customs
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Read post #20.
Please point out to me in post #16 where I said I wanted to return to a five day waiting period.
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Bob Hunter
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Hunter Customs
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bikerbill and Kilimanjaro, you both are correct in the fact that in most cases NICS goes through pretty fast.
I called in one time and a recording came on stating they were back logged and to try later.
I have no problem with that.
The problem I have is when someone tells me I'm being transferred for further review and I'm put on hold for just short of an hour.
In my opinion that's just plain rude.
I can't make myself believe in this day and age it would take almost an hour to further review this individual, that I know very well and just happens to have a CCW license.
In my opinion if the person doing the further review was having computer problems it would have been courteous of them to have answered the phone and inform me they were having problems and to call back later.
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Bob Hunter
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I called in one time and a recording came on stating they were back logged and to try later.
I have no problem with that.
The problem I have is when someone tells me I'm being transferred for further review and I'm put on hold for just short of an hour.
In my opinion that's just plain rude.
I can't make myself believe in this day and age it would take almost an hour to further review this individual, that I know very well and just happens to have a CCW license.
In my opinion if the person doing the further review was having computer problems it would have been courteous of them to have answered the phone and inform me they were having problems and to call back later.
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Bob Hunter
www.huntercustoms.com
dogtown tom
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Which doesn't change the 1994 Federal law requiring a five day waiting period prior to the NICS. Just as there are current exemptions to the NICS check today, there were exemptions to the Brady law.
How about post #1
Do you really think a requirement to visit the local PD for a "permit to purchase" is less hassle than making a three minute phone call?
buckhorn_cortez
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Uh huh...yeah, it's "free" in the same way every other government provided "service" is free. You just pay for it another way. It's part of an operating budget, the budget is provided through taxes....I think you can figure out the rest.
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Hunter Customs
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I agree, in my opinion for a service to be free it would need to be staffed by volunteers.
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Bob Hunter
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Aguila Blanca
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Or he could have gone right to the top, and asked to speak with the infamous "some dude."dogtown tom said:
The Dude abides, and if he's an operator at the NICS operations center, that could explain some of the occasional delays.
To answer the original question, I was there when this passed. We weren't "sold" anything. The Brady Bill was forced upon us, and the vast majority of the gun culture didn't care enough to get involved.
Let's not get all revisionist about things. Anyone currently over the age of 40 who wants to gripe about it? Tell us what you were doing to oppose it.
I wrote letters and talked to everyone that would sit still for it and tried to convince people that everyone needed to get involved. But as you might have also experienced there was a general attitude of I can not do anything, we just have to sit by and take it. Of course those same people sat around and bitched about how unfair it all was but could not be bothered to write a letter or make a phone call. You can forget about any of them actually organizing for a group effort. During the last few rounds I talked to some of those same people, like my dad in Colorado, they still just do some complaining then shrug their shoulders and move on because they can not make a difference, or they already have all the guns and ammo they will ever need, or the gun grabbers are not talking about their guns anyway. This type of thing has been a never ending source of frustration for me.
I will say there have been times when I am guilty of not doing everything I think I should have. When I was deployed overseas I was working insane hours and was pretty far out of the loop on many issues. The Brady bill and the 96 ban are both times I wish I had been in the sates because I think I could have been more involved than just writing letters and making phone calls. One on one interaction might have gotten a few more people involved.
Chaz, you're one of the few. The newer generations of gun owners are more motivated. Mine certainly was not. Ironically, mine is the generation I hear most of the complaints from on a daily basis.
In 1993/1994, I could not get shooters to care one bit or get involved. Clinton wasn't going after their deer rifles. They didn't want me calling to bug them at dinner. Then it was "OMG waiting period? I can only get 10-round mags? What the heck? Why didn't you (meaning: me) do something about this?" Yeesh.
The level of awareness and involvement that we saw earlier this year was much better, but it still doesn't escape notice that far too many gun people expect someone else to do the legwork for them.
In 1993/1994, I could not get shooters to care one bit or get involved. Clinton wasn't going after their deer rifles. They didn't want me calling to bug them at dinner. Then it was "OMG waiting period? I can only get 10-round mags? What the heck? Why didn't you (meaning: me) do something about this?" Yeesh.
The level of awareness and involvement that we saw earlier this year was much better, but it still doesn't escape notice that far too many gun people expect someone else to do the legwork for them.
Yes, because the phone call is never (IME) a 3 minute deal ...... Drop into the CSO once every 3 years (I don't even have to do that much- now I just renew my Carry Permit every 5 years, by mail, even), fill out an application that takes less than 2 minutes, turn it in, get the Firearm Purchase Certificate (permit) in the mail in less than 5 business days. Total time elapsed between parking in front of the Court House and driving away was always less than 10 minutes. Show the Purchase Certificate and a picture ID to any dealer, and he puts the information from it on your 4473 ..... pay for the gun, and away you go, gun in hand.
dogtown tom
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And you aren't calling the FBI NICS either, are you?
Nebraska dealers call a state POC, not the FBI for handgun transactions.
I believe so ...... and a couple of years back, the NRA nearly sold us out on that, making a back door agreement with a "Progressive" state legislator not to fight his bill ....... it would have traded away our Purchase Certificate for the NICS (something most gun owner here liked for something we did not) in exchange for setting up an un-elected Commission to make a list of "guns too dangerous for civilians to use" ..... I still remember that, and still hold it against them.
My point is, the State "POC" is preferrable to NICS ......
The less power is concentrated in Washington DC, the better.
dogtown tom
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For every handgun purchase you would choose:
-...To fill out an application that takes less than 2 minutes, turn it in, get the Firearm Purchase Certificate (permit) in the mail in less than 5 business days.
Vs
-a 3min phone cal to the FBI NICS (for non CHL holders)
-With a Tx CHL, immediately get your gun.
Yeah, that State POC is a lot better.
Microgunner
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In Florida, we do our checks through the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement Firearm Purchase Program, who then connects with the NICS computer.
So in Florida two background checks are actually performed simultanously and most times takes no more than 5 minutes.
There have been numerous exceptions though.
So in Florida two background checks are actually performed simultanously and most times takes no more than 5 minutes.
There have been numerous exceptions though.
The certificate is good for all the purchases yo wish to do .... 3 years worth. Don't let the thing expire, and you'll never wait.
- The Nebraska CHP works as a Certificate, as I pointed out above.
Bottom line, again, is that with a state POC, we don't ever have to wait on the National (sometimes, sort of, if the system is not down) Instant (Ha!) Check System ......
I've got what you've got ..... just without the 3 minute (if you are lucky) phone call.
dogtown tom
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TX CHL is an exemption to the NICS call and we don't need any local or state permission to purchase a firearm.