Earlier, I mentioned the 4 absolute rules of firearms handling. This is covered in Rule 4 - Know your target AND what is behind the target. Unlike in the movies, real bullets don't just stop when they hit flesh. More often than not, they exit the other side and can continue to do damage until they are totally spent. That is why you must make absolutely certain you understand what could potentially get hit after you pull the trigger.
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Earlier, I mentioned the 4 absolute rules of firearms handling. This is covered in Rule 4 - Know your target AND what is behind the target. Unlike in the movies, real bullets don't just stop when they hit flesh. More often than not, they exit the other side and can continue to do damage until they are totally spent. That is why you must make absolutely certain you understand what could potentially get hit after you pull the trigger.
Bottom Gun
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The Leupold 2-7 is an excellent choice. I have a couple and I really like them. That would be my first choice for general use rimfire scope.
I also have a Nikon 2-7x32 which is another excellent scope but a bit larger than the Leupold.
If you would to try them before you buy one and feel like taking a drive . . . . . . . .
I also have a Nikon 2-7x32 which is another excellent scope but a bit larger than the Leupold.
If you would to try them before you buy one and feel like taking a drive . . . . . . . .
big al hunter
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This is why we wear hunter orange. It makes it easier to be seen at any distance. Also why we use binoculars to view game at great distance before shooting. Take an extra few seconds to scan the area behind the target looking for things you don't want to shoot.
The Leopold is a nice scope. For less $ and a great warranty look at Vortex. The Crossfire line of scopes is budget minded and has decent features. You should look through the scopes you are thinking about getting, if possible. Go to a local sporting goods store and spend some time looking at the different features and don't buy one just to have it. Make sure you really like it first.
Wear it !!
Turkeys are dumb and any patterns works but they will still bust you. ….
Deer; Have to wear blaze-orange and I see where Illinois has approved Victoria's Secret …. PINK
Be Safe !!!
In practice, in my Squirrel woods, the Squirrels always look forward to my latest Camo attire of the season. I play games with them but they always know I'm there. ....
Turkeys are dumb and any patterns works but they will still bust you. ….
Deer; Have to wear blaze-orange and I see where Illinois has approved Victoria's Secret …. PINK
Be Safe !!!
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As soon as I can, I'm gonna get my dad to go with me to a gun store (I'm not 18 yet) I'm sure once I'm there I can take a better look at a few scopes and maybe a centerfire rifle. For now, I'm gonna write down a few options so that I have an idea of what I'm looking for.
I'm a little confused as to how land is managed. If I'm hunting on state land, are there no residences at all? I often see little farm houses or barns even on places designated as "state" land. Could someone clarify or is it state by state?
I'm a little confused as to how land is managed. If I'm hunting on state land, are there no residences at all? I often see little farm houses or barns even on places designated as "state" land. Could someone clarify or is it state by state?
Try to find a local office of this out fit to help you get the maps you need.
https://www.blm.gov/maps
Short of that, go to your county courthouse and find out where to get a county platt book of the area you want to hunt. That book will show you REAL and ACCURATE land ownership and property lines. If it is state land it will say the property as property of the state of Arizona. If it is federal land it will say property of USA.
At least around here, you can drive a mile down a road and pass from public ground on the right to private ground on the left, switch and the public on both sides and back to private ground on every corner at the next cross roads and never know the real owner ship of any of it no matter how hard you were looking or trying.
Unless you have the golden key to knowledge of ownership, a county platt book and list of land owners.
In our state, Indiana, you can find that same information on the internet if you know where to look and how to use it.
http://39dn.com/
I believe it is a federal requirement that every state get their information available on line like that, BUT not all states have equally progressed in achieving it and they all have their own way and their own web page for providing it. No two states do it the same as far as I know.
https://www.blm.gov/maps
Short of that, go to your county courthouse and find out where to get a county platt book of the area you want to hunt. That book will show you REAL and ACCURATE land ownership and property lines. If it is state land it will say the property as property of the state of Arizona. If it is federal land it will say property of USA.
At least around here, you can drive a mile down a road and pass from public ground on the right to private ground on the left, switch and the public on both sides and back to private ground on every corner at the next cross roads and never know the real owner ship of any of it no matter how hard you were looking or trying.
Unless you have the golden key to knowledge of ownership, a county platt book and list of land owners.
In our state, Indiana, you can find that same information on the internet if you know where to look and how to use it.
http://39dn.com/
I believe it is a federal requirement that every state get their information available on line like that, BUT not all states have equally progressed in achieving it and they all have their own way and their own web page for providing it. No two states do it the same as far as I know.
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Most public land whether BLM, national forest or state land is divided by fences into individual leases. Often a rancher will own small amounts of acreage in the lease. Most will not. Ranchers will improve their lease often with buildings but most often with the infrastructure to deliver water. Believe it or not there is still a land use atlas published. On paper! It will give you a general idea of who owns the land. From there you have to go to the map store. I know there are few in Phoenix and I’d figure there is at least 1 in Tucson. BLM and national forest maps are the key. In general you need a permit to use state land. The exception is a hunting license is your permit to hunt. It not target shoot.
All depends on the state in question. Out West, most states have huge tracts of land managed either by the BLM or the NFS. These lands are open, public land. Many times ranchers will have leased grazing rights; some timber companies will have harvesting rights, etc. In NV, you also have gold mining and military usage to contend with. Most areas are available for hiking, hunting, fishing, camping, etc.
Back East things may be different as lands may have been settled before state areas were designated as in NY's Adirondack State Park.
Back East things may be different as lands may have been settled before state areas were designated as in NY's Adirondack State Park.
big al hunter
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Washington just made florescent pink legal as well. IIRC 8 or 9 states allow pink. Elk will also require orange or pink in most areas for modern firearms seasons.
Mostly state by state. Next time you are at the gun store or where you get hunting license look for game management area maps. Some maps are available with hunting units and owner information. There is also an app that has several states game/hunting areas in a GPS with all kinds of details. Property owner contact information, exact boundaries, animals you can hunt in the area and a few other things I can't remember now. Might be called HuntX or something like that. Didn't tickle my fancy.
Also look at the written game regulations. Could be online, should be in hard copy where you buy hunting licenses. The boundaries of the game management areas will be described in detail. As will local rules for hunting and restrictions that must be followed.
Another question not that relevant to hunting. I’m gonna be going to a gun store soon to buy ammo, and take a look at some rim fire scopes and center fire rifle. There are a million YouTube videos on what to do, and what not to do at a gun store. What are some things I should keep in mind, especially me being a minor, and my dad who knows little about firearms is only there to accompany me. Please let me know.
Also on the Hunters Ed course, they mentioned different carry positions but didn’t mention having the rifle slung over your shoulder with the barrel pointing down? What are your opinions on this position? I find I can get the rifle on target faster from a relatively low ready state like this. Please let me know
Also on the Hunters Ed course, they mentioned different carry positions but didn’t mention having the rifle slung over your shoulder with the barrel pointing down? What are your opinions on this position? I find I can get the rifle on target faster from a relatively low ready state like this. Please let me know
Muzzle, Up and Away !!!!
What we do emphasize, is muzzle control and as best you can, keep the muzzle, "Up and Away" …..
Be Safe !!!
In our classes and personally, we would not recommend this carry. In class we do not teach the use of slings but now that you mention it, there might be a good point in doing so. ….
What we do emphasize, is muzzle control and as best you can, keep the muzzle, "Up and Away" …..
Be Safe !!!
When you are hunting, carry your weapon in your hands and learn to use your shooting sling.
If you are not hunting use your carry strap, carry the rifle barrel up or barrel down. You'll find what works for you and it is all a two sided coin with different advantages and disadvantages. Just remember the four rules still apply.
If you need to bring it in a gun store for some reason, double and triple check it is unloaded. After that and you are SURE is is unloaded, THEN operate the action three times if it is a bolt, pump, or semi auto. If any amo flies out, then start all over again making sure it is unloaded. After you've made sure it is unloaded and operated the action manually three times and nothing came out, leave the action OPEN. Bolt open, pump action open, magazine empty and out in your hands if it has one, break action broke open to carry it in to the store in your hands.
Any time any one else handles it while you are in the store, secure the action OPEN and EMPTY again for your self.
If you are not hunting use your carry strap, carry the rifle barrel up or barrel down. You'll find what works for you and it is all a two sided coin with different advantages and disadvantages. Just remember the four rules still apply.
If you need to bring it in a gun store for some reason, double and triple check it is unloaded. After that and you are SURE is is unloaded, THEN operate the action three times if it is a bolt, pump, or semi auto. If any amo flies out, then start all over again making sure it is unloaded. After you've made sure it is unloaded and operated the action manually three times and nothing came out, leave the action OPEN. Bolt open, pump action open, magazine empty and out in your hands if it has one, break action broke open to carry it in to the store in your hands.
Any time any one else handles it while you are in the store, secure the action OPEN and EMPTY again for your self.
buck460XVR
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IMHO, you're asking for a barrel obstruction. You are also putting yourself at risk from the muzzle sweeping your legs as you walk. Muzzle up....muzzle down, one still has to take the gun off your shoulder before you can mount it to your shoulder. My gun never gets slung over my shoulder on the sling unless I have decided the chance of a shot is minute. Shots, especially from folks new to shooting/hunting should be taken when one has the time to get a good bead and properly shoulder/steady the gun. Exception would be shotgunning.
MoArk Willy
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Perhaps I missed it so I'll ask. When you say hunting for game are you intending to eat what you kill? Hopefully you are thinking about consuming the game you harvest.
Killing for the sake of killing is unwarranted.
Killing for the sake of killing is unwarranted.
