I generally don't care for the S&W J frames, and would gladly pay extra for a used Colt D frame, but the S&W K Frame is another story. I love the older Model 66s! I have a 66-2 where the gas ring was moved from the crane to the cylinder, but it does not have a pinned barrel or a recessed cylinder, so I am on the hunt for another older model 19, too. The trigger on my 66-2 is almost perfection. One cylinder is almost off time, but it's not an issue, yet. The Colt Detective Special is twice the gun of any J Frame, so I don't own a J frame S&W. I'll take all the K,L, N & X frames I can get. Same goes for Colt D, I & O frames! I even have a cool $350 shoulder holster for my Model 66/19s, with two pouches for speed loaders. I usually have an old solo police shoulder holster for a Sig/Sig Sauer P226/P228/P229, and carry a German P228 daily (no extra ammo, just the gun & it's magazine). For special occasions, I will wear the model 66. God help anyone who threatens my life on one of those days, because that model 66 is exceptionally accurate, and it's shooting full house 158 grain .357 JHP loads, not the puny 9x19mm Parabellum. The Colt gets loaded with 158 grain .38 Spcl +P semi-wadcutter hollow points, or Buffalo Bore, same bullets, standard pressure. I'd like a Model 586 S&W, but cannot reconcile paying more for a 586, than the 686, unless the new 586 is MIM part free, and it isn't! California is the pain in the ____ state just across The Colorado River from us. East of the river happiness is belt fed, but west of the river, you need to hire a legal team, just to buy a gun. God help you if you want to carry it! Riverside County is almost "shall issue", but anywhere else, you had better have money, and political connections. I don't think it cost me more than $20 for some plugs for the Hillary Holes, when I took the locks out of a bunch of J Frames I bought and repaired. Half of those guns, had the locks engaged, and the keys were long gone. I just didn't like them enough to keep them, so I sold them. I have the full 1960s/1970s LAPD gun collection, with a Model 19, a Detective Special, and the Ithaca Model 37 pump shotgun. California has always had goofy gun laws going way back to the Mexican Revolution, and the ingress of the Mexican refugees. They passed laws keeping guns away from the Mexicans, and the Chinese. Later they passed laws forbidding carrying loaded guns, after the Black Panthers stood around the state capital with loaded guns. They never once shot anyone at any of these demonstrations. They did shoot each other, but that was okay. I guess the racist past of California's gun laws, needs to be rectified, by making guns inaccessible to everyone!