New Ruger 9mm Announced

FITASC said:
Sorry, to me it looks like Ruger tried to copy Hi-Point
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You can tell by the slide and the frame that it's not a copy of Hi Point. It's smaller and lighter than that. Cut Ruger some slack, they're trying to produce and market a pistol that has better ergonomics than a Hi Point, that's made of better materials, has a MUCH better trigger, and it actually carryable.

If anything, Ruger's tried to make a copy of the S&W Sigma.

The only two things I don't like about this pistol so far is that it doesn't use SR9 magazines and how low the employees running the machines are getting paid.
 
Companies wouldn't offer a safety if people didn't buy them. But, for the new and inexperienced gun buyer, price is the first selling point. And a manual safety seems like a logical mechanism on a firearm. For the complete novice person, the idea that a semi-auto wouldn't have a safety is an odd idea.
 
Two words when I look at this pistol:

GAME CHANGER.

:)

All kidding aside, it looks like Ruger is bringing one of the cheapest polymer frame striker fired double column detachable box magazine recoil operated semi-automatic 9x19mm Parabellum NATO Luger pistols on the market.
 
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And being a complete novice myself, I know what a safety is.... but I have no idea what a Glock trigger dongle or dingus is. And I clearly can see a difference between a $379 price versus a $559 price. Also, as far as handguns, up until 8 weeks ago, there were only a few names that I would recognize, but Ruger was one of them.
 
And being a complete novice myself, I know what a safety is.... but I have no idea what a Glock trigger dongle or dingus is
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Safety=That manually operated switch that under the extreme stress of a self defense situation can be forgotten, missed, or sliped off of before fully disengaged.

Glock trigger dingus=The extra little lever in the trigger on a Glock that keeps it from accidentally, or negligently being fired unless you are actually pulling the trigger. Without having to remember it, or take:p an extra step to manually disengage it.
 
TunnelRat said:
Are you saying Ruger is paying its employees less to make this pistol than the other pistols they sell?
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Possibly. They're not a union shop, they can pay their workers whatever they'll accept. I would not doubt it if Ruger pays the folks machining the slides of this pistol $8.75/hr instead of the standard $9.50/hr on day shift.

I don't know for a certainty, but I cannot believe, given all my experience in the manufacturing field, that Ruger is paying those running the machines that make this pistol as much as they pay someone who runs machines making parts for the Mini-14.

Unless there is absolutely no QC going on with any of the parts and Security 9 pistols, which I don't believe.
 
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I've gotten a little up to speed in the last 8-9 weeks, so I'm not a complete novice now. But, 8-9 weeks ago, I would have questioned "Why not" have a safety. I get it now, though it isn't a deal breaker for me. I purchased a Shield 9 with a safety, and just leave it off. I tried it out one time, it worked, and I clicked it off.

Being a complete novice until a few weeks ago, I did not raise my kids around guns. In retrospect, I should have gotten on board many years ago. When I showed my new Shield to my 21 year old son, he looked at the three items on the slide and pointed to the slide lock. He said, what is that, the safety? He didn't know the terms for the slide lock or release, but he was familiar with a safety. Further, he assumed the pistol had a safety.
 
Model12Win said:
Two words when I look at this pistol:

GAME CHANGER.

:)

All kidding aside, it looks like Ruger is bringing one of the cheapest polymer frame striker fired double column detachable box magazine recoil operated semi-automatic 9x19mm Parabellum NATO Luger pistols on the market.
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We don't know what the street price is, so let's not speculate. The Charger pistol, which is basically a 10/22 pistol, has an MSRP of $309, yet street it is roughly $230. This pistol has an MSRP of $359, so the street price could be around $250, but at that price, I don't think it will sell as well as a Taurus PT111 G2 does or a SCCY.

If Ruger can bring this to market for around $220... then they have a winner. At that price, it's worth spending an extra $20 on over a Taurus or SCCY.
 
Cheapshooter said:
Yeah, thanks. I get dingus, and dongle mixed up more than Bruce/Catlin Jenner!:D
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The important distinction there is to remember that Bruce has a "dingus" but Kate has a "dongle." ;)

This Ruger really does look cool. I've had some bad luck with my Ruger LCP-II, the disconnector broke within 80 rounds. My trust in new Ruger pistols is a bit challenged, though I think their older revolver designs are super solid and hope to own a new GP100 in the next day or two.
 
Model12Win said:
The important distinction there is to remember that Bruce has a "dingus" but Kate has a "dongle." ;)

This Ruger really does look cool. I've had some bad luck with my Ruger LCP-II, the disconnector broke within 80 rounds. My trust in new Ruger pistols is a bit challenged, though I think their older revolver designs are super solid and hope to own a new GP100 in the next day or two.
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Yeah, and Kylie has an "ambi safety" I'd love to flick on/off all night until the downstairs neighbor threatened to call a noise complaint.

My confidence in Ruger is so-so with all the reports I hear. The LCP is a small gun and it has small parts. Hopefully this larger pistol will have larger, stronger parts that don't break as easy.
 
TruthTellers said:
Yeah, and Kylie has an "ambi safety" I'd love to flick on/off all night until the downstairs neighbor threatened to call a noise complaint.

My confidence in Ruger is so-so with all the reports I hear. The LCP is a small gun and it has small parts. Hopefully this larger pistol will have larger, stronger parts that don't break as easy.
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Exactly, which is what I'm thinking. Probably just a bad casting or something. They already sent me a tracking label for it, I'll send it off to them this week.
 
nanney1 said:
I've gotten a little up to speed in the last 8-9 weeks, so I'm not a complete novice now. But, 8-9 weeks ago, I would have questioned "Why not" have a safety. I get it now, though it isn't a deal breaker for me. I purchased a Shield 9 with a safety, and just leave it off. I tried it out one time, it worked, and I clicked it off.
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I've gotten a little up to speed in the last 40-50 years and I still question "why not" have a safety.

I bought a Shield with the intention of simply never using the manual safety. Then I discovered I could handle the gun -including loading and unloading- with the manual safety engaged and only thumb the safety off when the gun was holstered. Voila! My Shield is now instantly available for use without further manipulation when it is holstered, but it still has the extra margin of protection from the manual safety when it is unholstered for routine handling.
 
All kidding aside, it looks like Ruger is bringing one of the cheapest polymer frame striker fired double column detachable box magazine recoil operated semi-automatic 9x19mm Parabellum NATO Luger pistols on the market.
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It's not a striker fired gun.

It is aimed straight at the Glock 19 market niche.
 
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