New Old Army

I think most BP revolver shooters who are into history are not fans of the ROA at first - I know I never liked the looks of them, or their lack of historical value. I swore I'd never get one - then I did and I was hooked. On those days when I just feel like shooting a BP revolver and not dealing with any particular problems I grab my ROA and head to the range (especially on a cold day - the larger chambers make for easier loading). The adjustable sights are a plus but I usually don't adjust them - I just change my point of aim. I like to alternate my guns, and the ROA has definitely earned its place in the lineup. They're not for everyone and it might not be my favorite, but I'm glad I have it.
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so does anyone know if u can legally hunt with this gun? and what kinda season it would fall into?
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You asked specifically about NY. I trust you are aware that NY has some screwy laws pertaining to black powder handguns. Unless they liberalized the law in the last seven years, they are legal to own without a permit ... as long as you don't also posses powder and ball. The instant you possess gun, powder, and ball together, NY classifies the combination as a "firearm" (read that "handgun requiring a permit") and you have to have it listed on you permit ... which I trust you have.

If possessed legally, gun is legal to hunt with during gun season in both rifle and shotgun-only areas. Don't know about muzzleloading season. Maybe TFL regular Peetzakilla can answer that. But the DEC has a very informative website. Check that out. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/28182.html

Oh, and you got a steal on you ROA. I paid $400 for my 1994 manufacture stainless specimen.
 
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Okay, found it. From the DEC website at http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8305.html

The legal firearm for this season is a muzzleloading rifle or pistol (including smoothbore muzzleloaders) loaded through the muzzle, shooting a single projectile and having a bore of .44 inches or larger. Double-barreled muzzleloaders and percussion cap revolvers are not legal during the special muzzleloading season. If you hunt with a single-shot muzzleloading pistol, you must have a New York State Pistol License.
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There's your answer. Can't use a cap'n ball revolver during the special muzzleloading season, and a pistol license is required even for a single shot muzzleloading pistol.
 
I get real tired of people puttin' good guns down, why do you do that...
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I'm not puttin it down. I'll be the first to say they're good quality guns. What gripes my butt is people that try to compare them to guns that were around back in the day and say they look like this or resemble that. They don't. Well maybe if you're far enough away and squint into the sun they might.
 
Ok tell me there's no simularities between the ROA and the 1861 Rem Old Army ... Simular is the word I used ... I don't claim to remember what anyone else says ... there is a reason Bill Ruger called it the Old Army yaq know. And it is historical as they are not in production anymore and they are highly collectable to some collectors...so it is in fact a part of Revolver History. Do you disagree with that statement also?
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All I'm sayin' Hawg is that the Ruger Old Army looks more like an 1861 Rem Old Army than it does a Rodgers & Spencer or a Colt ... everything that evolves comes from somewhere ... and my eyes tell me that the Size, Frame, weight, and look are more like a Remington 1861 Old Army than any other C&B Rev out there... so as you can see it bugs me just as much as it does you only 180 degrees differant ;O)
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Y'all be the Judges ... make this reply a Poll...ifin ya want.. :)
Thanks,
SG
 
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They're a part of recent revolver history. I see no more than a vague resemblance in part of the frame. Like I said if you're far enough away and squint into the sun maybe. They have no place in the part of history I'm interested in.
 
I'm so sorry Hawg I din't mean to blemish yur part of History or your Interest in it Heh Heh ... I'm talkin' about History of Revlovers not your specific interest in Revolver History ... :rolleyes: I din't mean to crinkle yur boots ... I'll drop the topic then as I can see you view much closer than I do as I have 20/30 vision anyway and it comes in handy when it views History :cool:
See ya round Pard...
 
Similarity, like beauty, is in the eye of...well, you know the rest. The ROA is an original, but is more similar to the Remington OA than any other CB.

But so what?

My Corvette is not a Ferrari, but is more similar to it than your SUV or F150.

All are grocery getters.
 
Hawg Haggen said:
I'm not puttin it down. I'll be the first to say they're good quality guns. What gripes my butt is people that try to compare them to guns that were around back in the day and say they look like this or resemble that. They don't. Well maybe if you're far enough away and squint into the sun they might.
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I'm on the same boat. It's just silly for folks to compare the ROA to the 19th century BP revolvers. The ROA isn't based on any of them. It is a unique and original design just like the 19th century BP revolvers were. It was designed from and for the 20th century for purposes other than use as a warfare weapon. The 19th century BP revolvers have their historical part in war and the taming of the west whereas the ROA does not share this type of history.

Again, it's just silly for anyone to imply that the ROA is somehow a poor and inaccurate copy of the 1858 or other 19th century BP revolver.
 
The Ruger Old Army is not a poor or inaccurate copy of any 19th century revolver. It is a 20 th century interpretation of a C&B revolver using 20th century technology. Bill Ruger used what he thought was the best features from some of the 19th century guns and blended them into the BEST C&B revolver that ever was. Now that they are out of production, whether you like it or not, they take their place in the history of C&B revolvers.
 
Last night a fellow said that his friend has a black powder revolver that he takes out to shoot every 20 years or so. So I asked his friend what kind is it?
And he said that it was a stainless steel Ruger Old Army with an adjustable sight in mint condition. So then I asked him if he was interested in selling it and he said, "No I won't ever sell that gun as long as I'm still alive! :D

I know another guy who used to have a Ruger Old Army that sold it years ago because he didn't shoot it much. And he's told me more than once, "I wish that I didn't sell that gun and still had it!" :D
 
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Personally, I wouldn't think of owning one.
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Ten maybe, but not one! :D
Yeah, I can count - I've acquired one more since this pic was taken - a 7 1/2" blued model with fixed sights. :)
 
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