New Old Army

someone today was in my local gun shop trading in .36 black powder and there were guna give him 25 bucks for it and when he walked out i followed him and offered him 40 its an unfired ... well im not sure what it is but it says FIE on it and its a 36 cal im guessing that its something like a pietta ... it looks idential to the Pietta 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber Revolver thats listed on cabellas but its definately a .36 but theres no names on the gun just fie italy on the bottom and some symbol it looks like a G with a B in it
 
Impossible to tell without a picture, but a 'G with a B in it' might be a poorly struck Armi San Paolo/Euroarms logo (the letter D overlapping two G's, one above the other). FIE was a US importer.
 
ok so my other new to bp question is what is the old army styled after what is the frame consider ie1851 navy) and so on
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It's a modern invention that bears no resemblance to anything that was used back in the day.
 
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marksman8351 said:
ok so my other new to bp question is what is the old army styled after what is the frame consider ie1851 navy) and so on
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The ROA is a historically correct BP firearm. :eek: That is, the ROA is not based on any particular original BP revolver. The ROA is, in itself, an original design AND is an original. It is not an attempted copy of anything unlike most of the BP revolvers that most of us have.
 
If ya put the ROA side by side with and 1861 Old Army Remington original...it's the closet patern to the ROA out there ... with some excellant changes made by Bill Rugers 1972 Production on his Ruger Old Army(ROA) 20th Century up grades...
 
You can try and justify it's existence any way you want to. The ROA is always going to be a never was. Like it for what it is, a modern creation. Don't give it historical provenance where it has none.
 
Hawg Haggen said:
Yep all the way back to 1972. What a history
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Hehehehe....now you've dated yourself. :eek:

A significant portion of the world's population wasn't even born as of yet in 1972. To them, 1972 is ancient history.
 
marksman8351 said:
ok so my other new to bp question is what is the old army styled after what is the frame consider ie1851 navy) and so on
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The question was about "style".
It was styled to look just like a percussion Blackhawk.
That's why Bill Ruger named it the "Old Army" because it was such an "old" design compared to the "Remington New Model Army" and the "Colt 1860 Army".
It's the old, old, Old Army alright, the oldest of all of the Army revolvers!
It's like the American League of major league baseball having the designated hitter, the rules for which have been adapted to fit modern times. :D
 
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Hawg you still don't get it ... yur stuck in or on the concept of 19th Century Firearms and the Ruger that Bill made is a 20th Century original C&B .457" or Conversion .45Colt BP or Smokeless Rev...and it's probly the Best BP C&B or Smokeless .45Colt ever made ... histrorical value? It's very much a Historical valued American Made Revolver...more so I quess than you'll ever realize.
I get real tired of people puttin' good guns down, why do you do that...
This my friend is the main reason I don't frequent forums like the Firing line anymore.
Why can't you speak well of a Guns attributes instead of always tryin' to find fault or put them down.
The ROA I said was closest to lookin' like an 1861 Rem Old Army not that it was a replica of it, as the ROA is an original. I'll jus' go back to my Forums and enjoy my BP shooting and conversations with people that don't pitch a bitch about needless redereck...
Later folks...I'm a gone.
SG
 
Hawg Haggen said:
I was born in 56 what's your excuse?
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OMG, that there is prehistoric times! ;)

marksman8351 said:
ok so my other new to bp question is what is the old army styled after what is the frame consider ie1851 navy) and so on
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The ROA obviously is based upon the Ruger Blackhawk. The Ruger Blackhawk design was "inspired by" the Colt Peacemaker. "Old Army" is nothing more than a marketing name that is trademarked similar to "Blackhawk".
 
I'll find my pic of the 1861 Rem Old Army Next to the Rugers Old Army if need be as it is the Closest of any Revolvers that were made in the 19th Century.
The 20th Century ROA has some of the best features of at least three Revs I can think of. the R&S, Rems, & Colt. None of which were replicated parts ... hell it's a dang Original Ruger an ROA and that's about all there is to it other than a damn good Revolver...
That I can live with all the rest is well not much to do with an Original Ruger ... The Vacquero came out after the Ruger execs stopped makin' the ROA...so go figure.
I think I'll go shootin' instead a tryin' to make known the Historical value of one a Bill's best Revs made... see ya's :cool:
 
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