bacardisteve
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Dan wesson or Colt. Majority of sigs wont fit in holsters designed for a 1911 because of their slide. Kimber your paying for looks.
Juancts: said:Some purists say that if it has an external extractor, then its not a real 1911
The standard 1911 (without that goofy series 80 safety), is not likely to fire when dropped either...unless you are on horseback or up on a ladder, even then the muzzle will be pointed down. Seems like "safety" taken to the extream.There are always going to be purists who will criticize one vs. the other over something. Biggest disputes seem to be model 70 triggers (or before) vs. Model 80 (w/drop safety).
Just buy want you want. Nothing wrong with tweaking the design. Browning himself would have.
FYI - I have the Ruger SR 1911. It has a model 70 setup (no drop safety), but uses a titanium firing pin so it's highly unlikely it would go off if dropped (not enough momentum). To be honest, chances of a negligent discharge on drop is pretty low anyways.
You are way to logical. The high-end 1911's just have to be better or they would not cost so much.Over the years I've owned commercial 1911s from Colt, Ruger, Springfield, Rock Island, and Remington. Some have been more finicky regarding ammo, but I haven't owned enough of each brand to say which is "best".
I do believe that below $1000 the differences are mostly features and cosmetics as opposed to durability and reliability. The basic 1911s I've had generally seemed just as durable and reliable as the more expensive ones (below $1K). Pay extra for "upgraded" hammers, triggers, grip safeties, and sights if you really want them. But a basic model with something a bit better than tiny military sights suits me as well as the models with the "upgrades".
I also prefer models that retain the fundamental design features from a replacement part standpoint. External extractors are likely fine, but standard extractors are available from many sources.
Field testing has demonstrated that the above statement (to which I used to subscribe) is incorrect.dahermit said:The standard 1911 (without that goofy series 80 safety), is not likely to fire when dropped either...unless you are on horseback or up on a ladder, even then the muzzle will be pointed down.
How do you "drop" a 1911 from four feet in the air?Field testing has demonstrated that the above statement (to which I used to subscribe) is incorrect.
http://dave2.freeshell.org/1911/drop1/drop1.htm
As a result of Drake's and Walt's testing, I have retired any non-Series 80 pistols I own from carry duty.
My favorite right now is my S&W 1911 SC-E bobtail. it has an external extractor, which has never needed anything done to it. It's been the most accurate, and reliable 1911 I've ever owned over 30 years.
Some purists say that if it has an external extractor, then its not a real 1911.
I agree with what you say. The thing is, I want to buy a good "keeper" 1911 that holds its value, not a soon trade-in to be weird 1911. Some manufacturers make changes and inventions, some other make just crappy guns. That's why I've narrowed it down to Colt, DW and Sig. Any other recommendations are welcomed. ThanksYou are buying what you want, not what others want you to have.
If you pointed a Sig 1911 down range, everyone in eye-sight would say or think, "that's a 1911."; not "What is that? I don't know what it is. Is that an external extractor? I don't recognize that style of pistol. Did that guy make that at home?"
Definitely. I'll be carrying it.Firing pin safeties were briefly mentioned earlier. They are another factor to consider in your choice of 1911. Designs based on the original 1911 have no such safeties, while others may have a Series 80 or Swartz firing pin block safety.
At least some Kimbers and S&Ws have the Swartz safety, and some Colt models have the Series 80 safety. Remingtons also have a Series 80 type safety. Many of the 1911s offered by other companies have neither type of firing pin block safety.
The presence or absence of one of these safeties may make a difference to you (or not).
Appreciate your help. Do you know what kind of safety Sigs 1911 use ???Others will no doubt disagree but, if you'll be carrying it, I definitely recommend a pistol with a Series 80 type firing pin safety. That includes most (but not all) current Colt models, as well as several other manufacturers. But a couple of manufacturers use a variant of the Swartz firing pin safety, which is deactivated by squeezing the grip safety rather than by pulling the trigger, and many others don't use any firing pin safety. I once tried to compile a list of which manufacturers used firing pin safeties and which didn't, but I never completed the research.