Brian, I saw the moon landing live on television...if I see an MIM part break live on television, I will believe it, okay?
As to your second question, I have owned five Colts, a 1930s era military issue piece redone by Augusta Armory (which was an EXCELLENT gun but for the inevitable hammerbite I get from a 1911 without beavertail and the tiny GI sights), a Limited Edition stainless Lightweight Officers ACP that I had lightly customized, a 1991A1 also lightly customized, and two of the new XSL Series Colts, a Lightweight and a Combat Commander.
Of Springfield Armory 1911s I have owned five, four milspecs through the years and one Champion. Never seem to be able to hold onto the Springfields as they seemed a bit rougher than the Colts and had worse triggers. Would love to try one of the new Loaded Springfields, but can't seem to justify picking one up when I already have two Colts and two Kimbers currently.
Now, in a semi-rant you said:
>>By your standards, since I never met anyone who has been raped, or robbed or shot then it must not happen.<<
I can't believe you have never met anyone that was raped or robbed or shot. I have met COUNTLESS people who were robbed, quite a few who have been shot (mostly cops and combat vets) and at least three women who have been raped and I am only 33...how old are you?
>>Call Bill Laughtridge at Cylinder and Slide and talk to him about it, call Dane Burns, call Richard Heinie and others who ACTUALLY know about 1911's and ask them too.<<
So, your position is that I should talk to people who repair broken 1911s for a living and ask them how many broken 1911s they have seen? Again, this is like asking a cop about human nature...he only sees the worst of it. Those people also have a vested interest in getting those with factory custom guns to further "customize" their pistols. As do you. Sorry, to be frank, I am following the money here.
>> Every one of them and I have seen them break, warped or not work.<<
Seeing how your business is fixing broken 1911s I am somehow not surprised you have seen a few.
>>It's a well known fact, verified by Kimber, that their slide stops suck. They are a MIM part.<<
No, it is a well known fact that a FEW Kimber slide stops have had problems. A few. And I have had no confirmation from anyone with credibility that these few problems are the result of the part being MIM.
>>I've seen them break, not work and warped. There have been tons on people on all these forums who had to have their slide stops replaced. That's called proof.<<
No, it's called anecdotal evidence and is worth as much as my own anecdotal evidence. Also, TONS??? Hyperbolize much, Brian?
>> How many 1911's have you worked on?<<
A couple. I am not a gunsmith. I have, however, a couple friends who are smiths, one of whom specializes in ARs and 1911s.
>>How many have you actually owned?<<
Over the years, about two dozen. Five Colts, five Springfields, four Kimbers, two Para Ordnances, four Norincos, a Charles Daly, a Frankenstein parts gun on an Essex frame that sucked the hind tit, and an old Star.
>>How many gunsmiths have you talked to, and I'm not talking about you're local plumer or general gunsmith but one that specializes in
1911's?<<
Plumer? Is that someone who puts feathers on 1911s? Anyway, as I said I have two friends who are smiths, one who specializes in 1911s, and have talked to many more...I have made a few connections in the gun community through the years.
>> Fact is, in the gunsmithing community and in the firearms business the Kimbers are known as a overrated, over hyped product. <<
Sure, right. I believe you Brian...after all, why SHOULDN'T I believe someone who has a vested interest in "customizing" 1911s when they criticize a factory custom gun? yeah...
>>You're local dealers aren't going to tell you different because most don't know so because they are armchair commando's who only know about guns from magazines or press releases and don't have any practical experience, or aren't going to admit they sell damaged goods.<<
Wow, Brian, with psychic abilities like that you are wasting your time as a gunsmith. Why don't you start your own 900 number? It's amazing how you know all about the dealers I know and my relationship with them. Heh.
>>Most shooters haven't shot more than a couple of hundred rounds through the guns to
know anything. Get to a couple of thousand and then see.<<
Couple thousand was many many moons ago. I put five thousand rounds through my first Kimber (wound up having to sell that one with a few others to get the downpayment for our house), over 500 through my Compact Aluminum before I sold it (liked carrying the full size so I didn't need it), around a thousand through my second Classic Custom (which I still have) and about 3000 and counting through my Classic Stainless Gold Match. And yet to have a jam with any of them.
As to your second question, I have owned five Colts, a 1930s era military issue piece redone by Augusta Armory (which was an EXCELLENT gun but for the inevitable hammerbite I get from a 1911 without beavertail and the tiny GI sights), a Limited Edition stainless Lightweight Officers ACP that I had lightly customized, a 1991A1 also lightly customized, and two of the new XSL Series Colts, a Lightweight and a Combat Commander.
Of Springfield Armory 1911s I have owned five, four milspecs through the years and one Champion. Never seem to be able to hold onto the Springfields as they seemed a bit rougher than the Colts and had worse triggers. Would love to try one of the new Loaded Springfields, but can't seem to justify picking one up when I already have two Colts and two Kimbers currently.
Now, in a semi-rant you said:
>>By your standards, since I never met anyone who has been raped, or robbed or shot then it must not happen.<<
I can't believe you have never met anyone that was raped or robbed or shot. I have met COUNTLESS people who were robbed, quite a few who have been shot (mostly cops and combat vets) and at least three women who have been raped and I am only 33...how old are you?
>>Call Bill Laughtridge at Cylinder and Slide and talk to him about it, call Dane Burns, call Richard Heinie and others who ACTUALLY know about 1911's and ask them too.<<
So, your position is that I should talk to people who repair broken 1911s for a living and ask them how many broken 1911s they have seen? Again, this is like asking a cop about human nature...he only sees the worst of it. Those people also have a vested interest in getting those with factory custom guns to further "customize" their pistols. As do you. Sorry, to be frank, I am following the money here.
>> Every one of them and I have seen them break, warped or not work.<<
Seeing how your business is fixing broken 1911s I am somehow not surprised you have seen a few.
>>It's a well known fact, verified by Kimber, that their slide stops suck. They are a MIM part.<<
No, it is a well known fact that a FEW Kimber slide stops have had problems. A few. And I have had no confirmation from anyone with credibility that these few problems are the result of the part being MIM.
>>I've seen them break, not work and warped. There have been tons on people on all these forums who had to have their slide stops replaced. That's called proof.<<
No, it's called anecdotal evidence and is worth as much as my own anecdotal evidence. Also, TONS??? Hyperbolize much, Brian?
>> How many 1911's have you worked on?<<
A couple. I am not a gunsmith. I have, however, a couple friends who are smiths, one of whom specializes in ARs and 1911s.
>>How many have you actually owned?<<
Over the years, about two dozen. Five Colts, five Springfields, four Kimbers, two Para Ordnances, four Norincos, a Charles Daly, a Frankenstein parts gun on an Essex frame that sucked the hind tit, and an old Star.
>>How many gunsmiths have you talked to, and I'm not talking about you're local plumer or general gunsmith but one that specializes in
1911's?<<
Plumer? Is that someone who puts feathers on 1911s? Anyway, as I said I have two friends who are smiths, one who specializes in 1911s, and have talked to many more...I have made a few connections in the gun community through the years.
>> Fact is, in the gunsmithing community and in the firearms business the Kimbers are known as a overrated, over hyped product. <<
Sure, right. I believe you Brian...after all, why SHOULDN'T I believe someone who has a vested interest in "customizing" 1911s when they criticize a factory custom gun? yeah...
>>You're local dealers aren't going to tell you different because most don't know so because they are armchair commando's who only know about guns from magazines or press releases and don't have any practical experience, or aren't going to admit they sell damaged goods.<<
Wow, Brian, with psychic abilities like that you are wasting your time as a gunsmith. Why don't you start your own 900 number? It's amazing how you know all about the dealers I know and my relationship with them. Heh.
>>Most shooters haven't shot more than a couple of hundred rounds through the guns to
know anything. Get to a couple of thousand and then see.<<
Couple thousand was many many moons ago. I put five thousand rounds through my first Kimber (wound up having to sell that one with a few others to get the downpayment for our house), over 500 through my Compact Aluminum before I sold it (liked carrying the full size so I didn't need it), around a thousand through my second Classic Custom (which I still have) and about 3000 and counting through my Classic Stainless Gold Match. And yet to have a jam with any of them.