Need a hi-cap 9mm "car gun" (cheap)

Don't give criminals easy access to guns.

Also, storing a gun in your car rather than on your person is extremely impractical, because chances are you will not have nearly enough time to retrieve it should you need it.

I suggest you rethink your entire approach.
 
Some places allow a gun in the car even if the owner doesn't have a ccw. If it's legal in your state and for some reason you don't have your ccw, put it in your car! It may be even more accessible than a concealed holster when seated in a car.

Easy access to a criminal? Are you serious? Someone is going to break into your car to steal your stuff and it's your fault for leaving something in your locked car? By all means, take it inside if you park on the street at night but don't go unarmed to avoid being a victim. It just makes no sense. If your gun is stolen, report it to the police. Don't let anyone tell you you are responsible for the actions of bad people.
 
A lot of the idiots in CA think it is perfectly legal to leave a handgun in an unattended vehicle so long as it is unloaded and locked in container, that may be no more than a gun rug. If it is legal, and I think not, it isn't smart.
 
a low cost "car gun" that would be upsetting, but not devastating, if stolen
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I'm sorry but that sort of laissez-faire attitude is what gets under my skin with gun owners. Not everyone can afford a $1000 gun safe or built in console lock box, but leaving a gun in the car overnight or on a permanent basis is a great way for these to end up in the wrong hands.

It's one thing to leave it in the car while running errands, but my handgun stays on me otherwise.
 
What gets under MY skin is people telling me how to go about my business, or that because someone chooses to break into a vehicle, that the OWNER is somehow responsible. :rolleyes:

While I agree we should be responsible gun owners, people shouldn't steal.
Hiding the gun, or securing it in some way while the car is unattended is preferable.
 
Well, to bring the thread back to the original question...too bad I didn't see this sooner. There was a deal at ky gun co for the pt 111. 209 with shipping.
Here's the link,they're out of stock now https://www.kygunco.com/mobile/products.cfm/id/64002/name/taurus-handguns

But if you don't mind a hi point, you can get one in .45 acp for $145. While not the prettiest guns or best ergos, I have to say they're reliable as hell. I know someone who's legit shot 4k rounds through their 9mm without ever cleaning it.


Here is the link

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...ENSORED--CENSORED-=Redirect-Enabled+Deep+Link
 
Pshhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just buy TWO Hi-Point 9mm($150 each), up to 16 shots plus 1 in each pipe for a total of 18 shots! Plus you can be totally cool by "dual-wielding" like on Call of Dooty :p

LMAO!!!!
 
If a full sized, dead reliable, accurate 9mm is ok with you, look at the newer Canik TP9 SA's.... Very comfortable to shoot, accurate, and costs about $340 brand new... with two 18rd mags, holster, mag loader, and two different backstrap options. Same size and weight as a Glock 17, with a WAY better trigger pull.
 
I've decided to sell my car. The possibility of a junky stealing it to pay for his/her next fix while high, then killing someone in an "accident" is too high for me to accept(accident in the case of a high junky being as accurate as a drunk concealed carrying movie goer).

When I was shooting trap multiple times a week, I almost alays had a Remington 11-87 in my trunk. I thought leaving it there, where no one in my neighborhood was really aware, was much safer than carrying a firearms case in and out of the house a couple times a week where anyone driving by or visiting a neighbor might see me. The same thing can hold true for holstering and unholstering in your vehicle due to entering a CPZ. I've previously stopped in a random close parking lot to unholster, then driven to my destination. Everyone knows thieves regularly watch places like mall parking lots to see who is dropping bags at their car and returning to the stores, right? With current cellphone technology it isn't all that complicated to set-up a remote video camera in a car parked with an over-look of a large parking lot. Let alone something as simple as a $10 an hour security officer watching the mall cameras and sending a text to someone. Even if no one is around, someone may still be watching.

Of course, a locking glovebox, underseat vault, etc, isn't a bad idea.
 
Get a Hi-Pont. That way, if it's stolen, you haven't lost anything.
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I was going to suggest this.

I've never had the delectable pleasure of seeing one in the flesh or handling one but a few things I keep hearing again and again:

They have a lifetime warranty.
They are unrefined but reliable.
They are unrefined but decently accurate.
They are cheap with a capital CH and capital EEP.
They are hideous to behold.

Bearing all those things in mind, it sounds like an obvious short-lister, at the very least.
 
I'll add that the Hipoint ghost ring sight was amazing for me. I might not want it from a traditional holster with a cover garment where it could get snagged, but, from a kydex holster in a glove compartment or small vault, it would be great. A couple extra magazines in a single stack really doesn't give up all that much over a double, especially when you don't actually need to carry them.
 
Easy access to a criminal? Are you serious? Someone is going to break into your car to steal your stuff and it's your fault for leaving something in your locked car? By all means, take it inside if you park on the street at night but don't go unarmed to avoid being a victim. It just makes no sense. If your gun is stolen, report it to the police. Don't let anyone tell you you are responsible for the actions of bad people.
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Absolutely serious. It's no secret that criminals steal guns from cars. Knowing this, why would any responsible person permanently store one there anyway, especially when it won't do you any good should you need it? This should be common sense, but you know what they say....
 
And if on body carry isn't possible or practical, as in many places, my car is the next best place for a gun to be. Far more likely to be close at hand then in a safe at home.
 
I recently bought a EEA SAR k2p 9mm from CDNN.com for $279, this gun is so underrated, 17+1 capacity, low recoil, super comfortable grip, smooth trigger, adjustable sights and just a beautiful gun. It's not a ccw weapon but it is a compact. The only gripe is that it comes with just 1 mag, being a cz clone a second mag is easy to grab for around $30.

Click link below to see a beautiful gun.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=sar+k2p&FORM=HDRSC2
 
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And if on body carry isn't possible or practical, as in many places, my car is the next best place for a gun to be. Far more likely to be close at hand then in a safe at home.
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In a safe at home or 10 feet away might as well be the same when you need it RIGHT NOW. Far too many people make the dangerous mistake of assuming they know what their self defense encounter wil look like. In reality they occur extremely fast, and if the tool is not on the person, they usually don't have time to retrieve it. That's just the way things typically unfold. Don't operate under the assumption that you'll be able to magically pause time or that the bad guy will allow you to run to your car to grab your gun before he proceeds...
 
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" It's no secret that criminals steal guns from cars. Knowing this, why would any responsible person permanently store one there anyway, especially when it won't do you any good should you need it? This should be common sense, but you know what they say...."

Just playing Devil's Advocate...

It's no secret that criminals steal money from people on the street (aka mugging). Knowing this, why would any responsible person carry cash on their person.

It's no secret that criminals steal credit card info from scanners...why would any responsible person use a credit card to purchase items.

The answer is same to all three, reasonable expectation of security. You should expect that your car's contents and your wallet's contents would be safe (and a large percentage of the time they are). If we sink to the lowest common denominator, we'd expect everyone we ever see is a criminal and thus we'd never get anything accomplished, always living on edge or in fear. However, this sword bites both ways (for this argument)...if we have reasonable expectation of security, then why would anyone ever carry a gun that is not LEO/Military.

So, we have to accept that there is some grey area and that what works for some is not what works for others, and we cannot place blame upon the victim but rather where it belongs, with the criminal. Until we get out of the cycle of blaming the victims (the true victims, not those that would portray themselves as such) and blame the criminal for the actions we'll be at odds with this (il)logical circle jerk.
 
^The differnce is stolen money or credit cards doesn't pose a serious safety risk to innocent people. Big difference.

Part of being a responsible gun owner is properly storing and securing your guns, and doing everything you can to keep them out of the hands of unauthorized users. Habitually storing a firearm in an unattended vehicle does not meet this standard.
 
In a safe at home or 10 feet away might as well be the same when you need it RIGHT NOW. Far too many people make the dangerous mistake of assuming they know what their self defense encounter wil look like. In reality they occur extremely fast, and if the tool is not on the person, they usually don't have time to retrieve it. That's just the way things typically unfold. Don't operate under the assumption that you'll be able to magically pause time or that the bad guy will allow you to run to your car to grab your gun before he proceeds...
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In the car it's right next to you. If you have a ccw you have it on you when you're out of the car. If you don't have a ccw you're SOL once you're out of the car. The purpose of a car gun is for "in the car" not a replacement for a ccw holster.

And I guess you're with Hillary then. Sue the gun manufacturers because they allowed a bad person to use their dangerous product. It's mot the criminal's fault.
 
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