Need a hi-cap 9mm "car gun" (cheap)

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ZeroTX

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Hi all,

I ignorantly sold my first gen Taurus PT111 9mm compact and now pretty much immediately I'm missing it for the original purpose that I bought it: a low cost "car gun" that would be upsetting, but not devastating, if stolen. Well, it never got stolen, but I did sell it because I wanted a new Glock 17 Gen 4, so I am "net" the same number of guns, but I don't have something to replace my cheap Taurus car gun.

In thinking about a replacement, given the state of the world today, I think I'd like for my "car gun" (not a carry gun) to be something with a high capacity of at least 15+1 rounds, reliable, and it's ok if it's a bit big and clunky. I'd like a $300 cash OR LESS budget. What first comes to mind is a used Ruger P89 or something along those lines. I know Taurus also makes some big 9mm's that don't really hold a ton of resale value, either.

Money being no object, I'd probably go with a Glock 19 Gen 4, but budget is half that.....

Thanks for any advice.
 
I like to suggest trying it out before you buy. You might find something on backpage.com.
What quality of weapon are you looking for? How about a police trade-in from Bud's? Want to drop down to a Hi-Point or KelTec? You may be able to get something pretty close to new there.

Lots of options, good luck.
 
I see Ruger P series 9mms at pawn shops all the time for LESS than $300.

But at Christmas time I found a very slightly used Glock 17, late gen 3, for $347, tax inc. Best Glock deal I've ever found except my Bowie tactical concepts 26, 3ed gen, with Heinne strait eight night sights, for $400, tax inc.

Deaf
 
SD9VE

The Smith and Wesson SD9VE has a capacity of 16+1. It has a lifetime warranty and sells around $300 new.
 
Good call! I didn't realize they were so cheap. That's a pretty proven design. Maybe not as good as an M&P9, but I haven't heard of any reliability problems.
 
ArkHog beat me to it. The S&W 9VE is an excellent gun. Its funny that you started this thread because not more than two weeks ago I swapped out the model 65 I have been carrying in my truck for the last 5-6 years for the S&W 9VE and a spare mag.

I paid right at $300 for the gun. I got a $40 rebate and two factory mags with the deal. It also came with one of the super bright flashlights. This is a copy of the Glock. From what I have read S&W paid a royalty to glock for the gun. It is one of the best gun deals I have ever gotten. Plus mine is black on black. Most come with a silver slide. Mine has a black slide and is the only one I have ever seen with this color combination.

People will tell that the trigger is a terrible thing. And no its not smooth especially when the gun is uncocked. But rack the slide and set the striker and the gun changes personality. No its not a target trigger. And there are youtube vids that tell you how to improve the trigger. I did mine but really don't think for its intended purpose you need to do that.

The gun is way better than combat accuracy. And mine has been dead nuts reliable. I have never had a single malfunction of any kind and all I shoot are reloads. Its the best 300 bucks I have spent for a gun.
 
ZeroTX,
First off, never leave a Hand Gun in a car!

You do not say where you hail from. If it is Florida, carry in the car, take it with you when you leave. That's where the gang bangers get most of their guns from.

Our latest tragedy, 2-year-old finds Grand Dads pistol in truck, shoots himself (looks like he is going to be OK) me I never take my Glock 19 off.
 
First off, never leave a Hand Gun in a car
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... good advice for a multitude of reasons.

me I never take my Glock 19 off
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... good practice to follow.

That said, I like the idea of the S&W over a Glock. I too read somewhere that a royalty was paid to Glock by S&W over the design resulting from some sort of legal action if I recall. There is one fundamental difference in design though, a fully supported chamber. No such thing with a Glock.
 
turkeestalker said:
There is one fundamental difference in design though, a fully supported chamber. No such thing with a Glock.
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SD9VE on the left, Glock on the right. Can you point out what you perceive to be the difference?
 

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My grandson has a Hi Point, yes it's ugly but it never fails to fire or load another round. I was impressed that it never once failed on several types of ammo. But like said before I would never leave a gun in my car.
 
I cant believe anyone would consciously leave a loaded weapon in a car as a "car gun"for any scumbag to take at will... You make us all look like idiots and make it harder to defend our rights against all the crazy new gun laws being pushed.

Gun ownership is a huge responsibility and if someone steals your "car gun" from your car, you are responsible! Especially since your intent is to leave it unsecured in your vehicle.
 
Before this thread devolves into a debate on firearms in vehicles, can I submit an idea? Not everyone's situation is exactly like yours. There are safe urban areas, isolated rural areas, agricultural settings, etc. where vehicle carry and even storage is going to be OK. Anyone who carries and drives to the post office is going to have to disarm & leave their firearm outside the Federal PO property (per federal law), so occasional vehicle storage is practically inevitable for the majority of us. (Personally, I have a secured metal lockbox & unload prior to storage w ammo in separate storage)

Responsible gun owners will secure their firearms according to their situation.

Back to the OP, two of my inexpensive travel guns have already been mentioned: Ruger P94 & Glock 17 - both LE surplus guns. The other is a Kel Tec P11 - the SCCY 9mm would be equivalent. The G17 was about $350, but the others were under $300.
 
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I too read somewhere that a royalty was paid to Glock by S&W over the design resulting from some sort of legal action if I recall.
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The lawsuit was over the original Sigma Series pistols, the SW9F and SW9C. The design of these pistols is copied from the Glock only in the broadest sense, i.e. they have polymer frames and internal safeties, and they're striker-fired. The lawsuit was settled out of court quickly and the terms have never been made public; the theory that S&W paid Glock a royalty is nothing but speculation.
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There is one fundamental difference in design though, a fully supported chamber. No such thing with a Glock.
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Almost no auto pistols that use tilting barrel lockup have fully supported chambers; it's a matter of degree.

That said, early .40S&W Glock pistols have less chamber support than most other .40S&W pistols; however, IIRC this was fixed with a barrel redesign partway through the 2ng generation, and all newer .40S&W Glocks have comparable chamber support to most other brands of pistol.

This was never an issue with any other caliber of Glock, including 9mm, which is the caliber under discussion here.
 
My local Academy Sports is selling Stoeger Cougar 8000F 9mms NIB for $299. The Cougar is an all-metal DA/SA hammer-fired pistol with 15+1 rd capacity in 9mm. Most Cougar owners feel that they are seriously undervalued. I own one Stoeger and two Beretta Cougars. The Stoeger seems to be functionally equivalent to the Beretta versions.

The Cougar F has a slide-mounted safety/decocker lever akin to the Beretta 92FS which is not everyone's cup of tea. Unlike the 92FS however, the Stoeger can easily be converted to a "G" model (decocker) without additional parts or special tools.
 
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