N.J. shoot on the 16th of March.....
- Thread starter RAY WOODROW 3RD
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Jamie Young
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Where were those State Regulations on Crossing State lines with Firearms? I want to print those out and carry them with me for the trip.
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
State Law....
nra.org will have them for you SodaPop. Search for N.J. state firearms law.
Hey Ron,
As long as you don't bring anything illegal in the state such as mags that hold more than 15 rounds or steetsweeper shotguns you will be O.K. Don't be such a wimp
nra.org will have them for you SodaPop. Search for N.J. state firearms law.
Hey Ron,
As long as you don't bring anything illegal in the state such as mags that hold more than 15 rounds or steetsweeper shotguns you will be O.K. Don't be such a wimp
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
Transportation of firearms in N.J. and Hollow point ammo...
N.J.S. 2C:39-6(g)
"All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b.,
subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be
carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox,
securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it
is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such
deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."
So keep your firearm unloaded and in a securely tied package and store the ammo separately (i.e.: firearms in a tied box stored in a locked trunk,
and ammo in the back seat stored in a closed ammo box). Any additional precautions like adding a trigger lock or lockable gun case or dismantling
your firearm is totally voluntary. And remember you are only allowed to deviate in your course of travel as reasonably necessary under the
circumstances. In other words, don't pack your firearms in your car on Monday for a trip to the range on Wednesday.
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Firearms Unit
Transportation and Use of Hollow Point
Ammunition by Sportsmen
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Provided certain conditions are met, a sportsman may transport and use hollow point ammunition. There are no restrictions
preventing a sportsman from keeping such ammunition at his home.
N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception which allows for the
purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that:
(2) Nothing is subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling,
premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to
said dwelling or land . . . [N.J.S.A 26:39-3g (2)].
Thus a person may purchase this ammunition and keep it within the confines of his property. Subsection f. (1) further
exempts from the prohibited possession of hollow nose ammunition "persons engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S.A
26:39-3f. . . ."
N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1).
Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. can be broken down as follows:
1.A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and
which filed its charter with the State Police;
2.A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State;
3.A person going directly to a target range, and;
4.A person going directly to an authorized place for "practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions."
As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. and g when
transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or
locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when
going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."
N.J.S.A 26:39-3g.
If the sportsman’s club member plans to hunt with a rifle and use hollow nose ammunition in a state where this is permitted, he must
comply with the provisions of U.S.C.A. 926A and N.J.S.A 26:39-3f (3)(a) and (6)(g), which is consistent with the federal law, in
transporting the firearm and ammunition. The firearm should be unloaded and neither the firearm nor the ammunition should be
readily accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, the firearm and the ammunition should be
contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or the console. 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.
In addition, the sportsman should have a valid hunting license in his possession from the state in which he plans to hunt and should
be familiar with that state’s gun laws. N.J.S.A 26:39-3f (3)(a) requires a person hunting in this State to have a valid hunting license in
his possession while traveling to or from the hunting area. Hunting with hollow nose ammunition is not permitted in New Jersey.
N.J.S.A 23:4-3. Thus, possession of a state license would not indicate destination. In the case of a New Jersey resident traveling to
another state to hunt, it logically would follow that the hunting license would be from the state where the hunter is going. Although
the federal statute does not require possession of a hunting license, it does require that the person transporting the firearm be going
to a state where possession of that object is lawful. A valid hunting licenses from that state effectively supplies the proof.
These conditions for use and transport of hollow nose ammunition are consistent with the legislative intent to restrict the use of such
ammunition to a limited number of people. It is well established that in construing a statute exceptions are to be "strictly but
reasonably construed, consistent with the manifest reason and purpose of the law." Service Armament Co. v. Hyland, 70 N.J. 550,
558-559 (1976). The State Supreme Court has "characterized the Gun Control Law as ‘highly purposed and conscientiously designed
toward preventing criminal and other unfit elements from acquiring firearms while enabling the fit elements of society to obtain them
with minimal burdens.’" Id. at 559.
N.J.S. 2C:39-6(g)
"All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b.,
subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be
carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox,
securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it
is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such
deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."
So keep your firearm unloaded and in a securely tied package and store the ammo separately (i.e.: firearms in a tied box stored in a locked trunk,
and ammo in the back seat stored in a closed ammo box). Any additional precautions like adding a trigger lock or lockable gun case or dismantling
your firearm is totally voluntary. And remember you are only allowed to deviate in your course of travel as reasonably necessary under the
circumstances. In other words, don't pack your firearms in your car on Monday for a trip to the range on Wednesday.
| home | special & technical services | state regulatory bureau | about us | faq | search |
Firearms Unit
Transportation and Use of Hollow Point
Ammunition by Sportsmen
| chapter 3 | chapter 39 | chapter 58 | colt match target/springfield m1a |
| assault firearms | retired officers |
| hollow point ammunition | transporting a firearm |
Provided certain conditions are met, a sportsman may transport and use hollow point ammunition. There are no restrictions
preventing a sportsman from keeping such ammunition at his home.
N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1) limits the possession of hollow nose ammunition. However, there is a general exception which allows for the
purchase of this ammunition but restricts the possession of it to specified locations. This exception provides that:
(2) Nothing is subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling,
premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to
said dwelling or land . . . [N.J.S.A 26:39-3g (2)].
Thus a person may purchase this ammunition and keep it within the confines of his property. Subsection f. (1) further
exempts from the prohibited possession of hollow nose ammunition "persons engaged in activities pursuant to N.J.S.A
26:39-3f. . . ."
N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. (1).
Activities contained in N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. can be broken down as follows:
1.A member of a rifle or pistol club organized under rules of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and
which filed its charter with the State Police;
2.A person engaged in hunting or target practice with a firearm legal for hunting in this State;
3.A person going directly to a target range, and;
4.A person going directly to an authorized place for "practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions."
As with other ammunition and firearms, a sportsman would have to comply with the provisions of N.J.S.A 26:39-3f. and g when
transporting hollow nose ammunition to a target range. The ammunition should be stored in a closed and fastened container or
locked in the trunk of the motor vehicle in which it is being transported. The course of travel should be as direct as possible when
going to and leaving from the target range with "only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."
N.J.S.A 26:39-3g.
If the sportsman’s club member plans to hunt with a rifle and use hollow nose ammunition in a state where this is permitted, he must
comply with the provisions of U.S.C.A. 926A and N.J.S.A 26:39-3f (3)(a) and (6)(g), which is consistent with the federal law, in
transporting the firearm and ammunition. The firearm should be unloaded and neither the firearm nor the ammunition should be
readily accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk, the firearm and the ammunition should be
contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or the console. 18 U.S.C.A. 926A.
In addition, the sportsman should have a valid hunting license in his possession from the state in which he plans to hunt and should
be familiar with that state’s gun laws. N.J.S.A 26:39-3f (3)(a) requires a person hunting in this State to have a valid hunting license in
his possession while traveling to or from the hunting area. Hunting with hollow nose ammunition is not permitted in New Jersey.
N.J.S.A 23:4-3. Thus, possession of a state license would not indicate destination. In the case of a New Jersey resident traveling to
another state to hunt, it logically would follow that the hunting license would be from the state where the hunter is going. Although
the federal statute does not require possession of a hunting license, it does require that the person transporting the firearm be going
to a state where possession of that object is lawful. A valid hunting licenses from that state effectively supplies the proof.
These conditions for use and transport of hollow nose ammunition are consistent with the legislative intent to restrict the use of such
ammunition to a limited number of people. It is well established that in construing a statute exceptions are to be "strictly but
reasonably construed, consistent with the manifest reason and purpose of the law." Service Armament Co. v. Hyland, 70 N.J. 550,
558-559 (1976). The State Supreme Court has "characterized the Gun Control Law as ‘highly purposed and conscientiously designed
toward preventing criminal and other unfit elements from acquiring firearms while enabling the fit elements of society to obtain them
with minimal burdens.’" Id. at 559.
Jody Hudson
New member
What are the times? Start? Finish?
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
Time......
Arrive around 9:30-10:00am done whenever........
Arrive around 9:30-10:00am done whenever........
Jamie Young
New member
What is Everyone going to use for the Qualification Course?
I'm still not sure if I'm using the Colt 1991A1 or the 38 Special.
If I pay $10 can I use My 16gauge for the Pistol Qualification?
I'm still not sure if I'm using the Colt 1991A1 or the 38 Special.
If I pay $10 can I use My 16gauge for the Pistol Qualification?
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
hmmm..........
I'm either using the Beretta or The Colt Trooper.
I'm either using the Beretta or The Colt Trooper.
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
Excellent!
Yes! I hope she can come. Jody said his significant other might show up also and Renee won't feel like the fifth wheel. pdmoderator has cancelled due to the fact that he has a gun class the weekend before the shoot and the weekend after the shoot and doesn't want to loose all of his guns during the divorce that would ensue after so much trigger time in a small time frame. I feel his pain!
Yes! I hope she can come. Jody said his significant other might show up also and Renee won't feel like the fifth wheel. pdmoderator has cancelled due to the fact that he has a gun class the weekend before the shoot and the weekend after the shoot and doesn't want to loose all of his guns during the divorce that would ensue after so much trigger time in a small time frame. I feel his pain!
Jody Hudson
New member
How about going to MapQuest.com and getting a map, putting the URL on here along with directions.
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
here is the mapquest.com map. If you want directions, use the address and map it from your location. The right turn into the driveway is at mile marker 14/5 when you are on Rt. 72E. I hope this helps. Anyone needing further assistance please let me know.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.ad...IGqORV+3hv6yJQ5peak0GmmmXXJznSc32c+W21TFD3Fw=
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.ad...IGqORV+3hv6yJQ5peak0GmmmXXJznSc32c+W21TFD3Fw=
Jamie Young
New member
Of Course............................ YOUR "DEAD"!!! BAAAAAAAAAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
haaaa haaa haa haa haahhha hhhhhh! THANKS sODApOP! I almost spit my drink all over the key board!
Uh... are you saying all us TFL guys are really thorny? Maybe too many gun magazines in the bathroom.
Ok, if I can make it, I'll bring my collection to date:
Kimber 1911
Walther P99
Kahr MK9
Ray, you mentioned needing a holster, and whatnot. Can you give us an idea of what we'll need?
RAY WOODROW 3RD
New member
info....
The shoot is on Saturday the 16th not Sunday Armando B. Rovert, any type of holster. You can put your mags in your pockets if you want but you should have some sort of holster to draw from. Any other questions? Hotdogs and soda will be on sale at the club. You must bring your own ammo. Bring targets for later but I have the targets for the police qual. If you bring your significant other ther is a living room with a fireplace, radio T.V etc. for them to relax while you go postal on the range. My wife will be there and it looks like two other TFLers will be bringing theirs also so don't be shy. My 14 year old son will be there too, if you have a teenager who would like to come and try some shooting.
The shoot is on Saturday the 16th not Sunday Armando B. Rovert, any type of holster. You can put your mags in your pockets if you want but you should have some sort of holster to draw from. Any other questions? Hotdogs and soda will be on sale at the club. You must bring your own ammo. Bring targets for later but I have the targets for the police qual. If you bring your significant other ther is a living room with a fireplace, radio T.V etc. for them to relax while you go postal on the range. My wife will be there and it looks like two other TFLers will be bringing theirs also so don't be shy. My 14 year old son will be there too, if you have a teenager who would like to come and try some shooting.