My next crappy, cheap A, POS handgun!

I'm with SLOW944 when it comes to tiny light-calibers like the PLY models. If you can't avoid the issue by sight-of-weapon, empty the dang thing. We all hear the arguments of small calibers where one shot was stopped by a Kleenex (or some such), but what happens when you let fly with 6 or 10 rounds fired with some proper placement. In a SD situation, to me the cost of ammo is REAL CHEAP. Nuff said.
 
Buyer beware, I talked to my LGS and the 2nd most returned guns were SEMI-AUTO Taurus's. Esp 1911's. He said their revolvers are pretty good. I have a revolver from Taurus and no problems. I have two friends who owned Taurus autos and have had problems. Just make sure its cheap and not over priced. I seen some people wanting $250 for those little guns. I was at a gun show and the cheapest one I found was $179.99 for the wood grip one.
If I had the money for $180 tiny 22lr I take the chance and do it. There is a warrenty after all...
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It's worked well for me. A few of my BPS, and Cabela's great deals by using points, and gift cards are. A Henry Golden Boy 22 Magnum with $275 out of pocket. A Beretta 92fs fo about $200 of my money out the door. A Glock G20 that I had to kick in about $100 after the rebate for using my Club Cabela's Visa. A Cimarron 45 Colt for under $200, a Browning Buckmark Camper at about two and a half, and my best so far was a Remington 870 Express 18" 7 shot for the grand total out of my pocket of $0.00. I love free guns!!!
The big thing is while I use the BPS, and Cabela's Visa cards for most purchases, I don't buy things on credit that I don't have the cash in the bank, or monthly income to cover. therefor I pay off the balance every month with out any interest!
how are you getting this stuff free/cheapo? LOL you must shop Cabela's 24/7?
 
Problem with this forum is it's so easy to get a craving flung on one.

Friggin tell me about it. I literally had no idea just how many guns I absolutely had to have before I discovered internet forums.
 
The Pt22 I had was a jamming machine. It never ran a full magazine without a failure. It was totally unreliable. It was cheap though.... though so is my Jimenez JA22, which is also a POS.
 
I grew up popping prairie dogs and cans with a similar gun - the Beretta Bobcat 21A.

Miserably unreliable unless it's clean and you're using high-velocity ammo, but so much FUN!
 
+1 for the PLY22. This gun has a great ergo feel to it and is very reliable with CCI HP Mini-Mags. I have much larger guns that dont fit my hand as well as my PLY22. I have no problem with the double action trigger pull of this gun. The only down side to this gun is you cant shoot the really cheap stuff in it because if you get one you will be shooting alot of rounds through it. I have had 2 Beretta model 21's in 22LR and never was happy with either. The Beretta's were only good for about 35 to 40 rounds and then needed cleaned to become reliable. I have fired 200 Mini-Mags through my PLY before having cycling problems and then switched over to Agulia 60gr SSS's with thier short case and ran another 65 rounds. Mine is a plinker and has helped my double action shooting greatly.
 
how are you getting this stuff free/cheapo? LOL you must shop Cabela's 24/7?

From my post you quoted.
The big thing is while I use the BPS, and Cabela's Visa cards for most purchases, I don't buy things on credit that I don't have the cash in the bank, or monthly income to cover. therefor I pay off the balance every month with out any interest![

Where BPS awards points for purchases in store for cash or credit, Cabela's only awards points for credit purchases. But both are Visa, and award points for any card purchase anywhere.
As I said though just don't buy things as credit. Always know you will have the cash to pay the balance. Other wise the interest will eat up all the rewards points, and then some!
 
This thread makes me wanna get a PT22. I do have a 21A and there's nothing I can do to make it reliable, but I can get through a few mags with stingers ok.

If my 21A were reliable it would be the perfect gun. It fits my hand awesome and I love the controls and trigger.
 
Went to the range today, this guy had a 25cal. Raven, it was a saturday night special. Now that was the worst firearm I had ever seen. It shot all flyers. Plus a bunch of failure to feed. Now that is the gun for you if you really want a piece of c...
 
Before you buy a PT-22,,,

Before you buy a Taurus PT-22,,,
Check out a Taurus 22-PLY.

The weight is only a bit more than one ounce less,,,
But the ergonomics of the gun are much better.

I have K-frame hands,,,
This little gun fits me perfectly.

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I'm not saying the polymer pistol is a better gun,,,
I'm saying it has a radically different feel than the steel frame version.

I've shot a lot of rounds through both models,,,
In my not-so humble opinion,,,
The 22-PLY feels nicer.

Aarond

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Well, I had hoped to do a review of my new cheap, POS, crappy handgun, but in true Bass Pro Shops tradition they are out of stock! So were the Rough Riders in the same add, but that wasn't my list anyway. I did get a rain check for the $199 price so I'll just put my gift cards, and spare change away for when they get more in stock. The nice person at the gun counter that was probably selling fishing rods last week, and hiking boots the week before had no idea when that would be.
 
Just got a call from BPS. they got the PT22's in for the rainchecks. they will hold it for 48 hours, so I'm on my way up to get it tonight. Great to be in a free state where there isn't any waiting periods, purchase permits, or other commy obstructions to buying a new gun!!!:D
I'll get it to the range ASAP for a full review of my opinions on this little Bull gun. Might have to go to an indoor range though. 100+ temps predicted for the next 5 days at least. I hate to shoot while I'm sweating so much I can't see!!!:eek:
 
No range session yet, but some first impressions.
The PT22 Poly feels very light. I think becaause of it's small caliber, combined with the minimal size of the slide due to the pop up barrel design, it feels lighter than it's 11 1/4 oz weight. Particularly it doesn't have the top heavy feel that my other poly framed pistols have. The DAO trigger pull is firm, with predictable stacking. The natural pointability is excellent, and it feels like an extension of your hand ,much like just pointing your finger. This should lend it to excellent practice for CCW without the expense of 380, 9mm, or 40 S&W ammo for my EDC weapons. I'll still give them a run through at every range session, but not as much as I used to now that I can shoot 22 rimfire ammo for a lot more point and shoot instinct shooting practice. The grips are a lot more hand filling however than my Elsie, or KAHR CM9. Their bulk feel more like my Springer XD40 Sub. The sights are more prominant than those on Elsie, but have no colored dots, or lines. Again, not needed for point, and shoot instinct shooting practice.
I found some myths that I read on other forums about things stated in the owners manual to be just that, myths.
1. Only standard velocity ammunition is recomended.
False. The owners manual only mentions the importance of clean ammunition in good condition should be used. Then there is the common, and almost obligatoru warning about +P being used only in guns rated +p, and advise against the over powered +P+ ammo that some companies make.
2. It will damage the gun to load the chamber by racking the slide, and the owners manual states that it should only be loaded via the pop up barrel.
False again! The very first sentence of the paragraph on loading the chamber says to rack the slide with a loaded magazine in the gun. Then it says "or press the lever to tip up the barrel for loading".
Fit, and finish are, well, Taurus. Not Baretta, or Smith & Wesson. But at under two hundred bucks I didn't pay a Beretta, or S&W price either!
The trigger, and slide action feel a bit scratchy, and tight, but I've noticed that with many new guns including my latest pryor to the PT22, a KAHR CM9. With a good cleaning, lubricating, and a break in session I'm sure that will improve.
Bottom line, so far, so good. I'm very happy with the little Bull gun.:D Just got to figure a little range time in my busy schedule of the next few weeks to give it a good run through.
 
Congrats on the new gun.

I maybe picking up another .22 for one of my daughters, I look forward to a range report.
 
So now that you have one of the polymer pistols,,,

So now that you have one of the polymer pistols,,,
You should call it by it's proper nomenclature.

It may have the PT-22 workings,,,
And it may come with a PT-22 owners manual,,,
But in reality it's true nomenclature is the 22PLY

Who cares, right? ;)

But hey,,,
Congratulations,,,
That is one fun little gun. :D

Aarond

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It may have the PT-22 workings,,,
And it may come with a PT-22 owners manual,,,
But in reality it's true nomenclature is the 22PLY

But why then is the slide clearly marked PT-22? Also ALL the metal PT-22 pistols on the Taurus website are only referred to as 22. http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?name=Small Frame Pistols&page=1
But as you noted, the instruction manual is labeled PT-22. Then a quick look through all the listings for semi-auto taurus guns show no PT prefix on any of them.
Possibly simply a deletion of the PT (I'm thinking for Pistol, Taurus) from all the model numbers in the on-line catalog.
 
Hey Cheepshooter,,,

But why then is the slide clearly marked PT-22?

I think it's because Taurus was too cheap to change out their tooling to reflect the new nomenclature,,,
And since the only apparent difference between the two is the polymer frame,,,
They probably said "what the heck, who's gonna notice?"

The two little guns even use the same magazine.

I just thought that with your keen mind for detail,,,
And your desire to sport the most modern in Brazilian Tupperware,,,
You would want to differentiate your fine new weapon from the older inferior model. :p

James Bond would be proud of us! ;)

Aarond

P.S. You really are going to have fun with this little gun,,,
As you stated, it is a true natural pointer,,,
You'll be popping tin cans @ 25 yds.

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kind of looks like a Beretta Jetfire type clone (or close to it)
anyone familiar with that design that can say if it's pretty much the same thing or close to it?
 
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