My Glock came broke!!
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leedesert, childe... that wasn't a flame, it was a statement of fact...
they issued glocks to the police officers in a city near here... (large city) almost immediately, there were multiple cases of officers shooting themselves, while trying to remove the weapons form retention holsters...
I have been using and owning firearms for well over 20 years, and not had a problem, but that TOTAL lack of a safety, and TOTAL lack of a reasonable cocking system, along with plastics propensity for stiffening and breaking in cold weather, I see them as junk...
that safety is more for piece of mind, and anyone who says they DON'T need one (like you) is a moron!
I'll stick to my real firearms, Smiths, IMI's, and Rugers... and maybe a new Dan Wesson 1911 .45...
they issued glocks to the police officers in a city near here... (large city) almost immediately, there were multiple cases of officers shooting themselves, while trying to remove the weapons form retention holsters...
I have been using and owning firearms for well over 20 years, and not had a problem, but that TOTAL lack of a safety, and TOTAL lack of a reasonable cocking system, along with plastics propensity for stiffening and breaking in cold weather, I see them as junk...
that safety is more for piece of mind, and anyone who says they DON'T need one (like you) is a moron!
I'll stick to my real firearms, Smiths, IMI's, and Rugers... and maybe a new Dan Wesson 1911 .45...
You are correct there are only 2 close gun shops and this one is really close to my house. The other is about45 min away. The other one is also more expensive.
I will get the gun today and take it to the range and let you know what i think. I have a Sig p245 and tell you what i think about the two guns.
Hemicuda
We get it you don't like Glocks so STOP writing the same message over and over again in this (or any other) Glock topic. It just makes you look like an a$$ and people will start to get pissed with you. Once that happens no one will respond to your topics and when you have a really question you will be SOL.
We get it you don't like Glocks so STOP writing the same message over and over again in this (or any other) Glock topic. It just makes you look like an a$$ and people will start to get pissed with you. Once that happens no one will respond to your topics and when you have a really question you will be SOL.
This is an example of a police department that buys toys but doesn't take the time to train their officers on proper gun handling. If they, like you, would keep their fingers off the trigger there would have been no accidents.
You have been owning guns for over 20 yrs and you still need a safety lock to keep from shooting yourself. I'm impressed.:barf:
The more you talk the more you show you ignorance. The temperatures that would melt/freeze/stiffen the plastic on a Glock are at such extremes that your body would have melted or frozen long before your gun did.
Once your arm is a solid block of ice it is quite difficult to hold your gun, no matter what gun you own.
A Glock is a Combat/Defensive handgun. It is meant to fire when you pull the trigger. Not fire after you hopefully release the safety or not fire because you forgot to release the safety. For your information, plenty cops were shooting themselves because they were holstering a weapon with their fingers on the trigger (assuming the safety was on) only to find out they forgot. There were just as many who's uniform or clothing accessories accidentally switched the safety off. When they drew their gun it would fire because they put pressure on the trigger thinking it the safety was on.
This all shows that whether your a cop or someone who thinks they know about gun handling like yourself, you never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire on your target.
If you can tell me how a person can accidentally shoot themselves while their finger is off the trigger I'll shut up.
Until then you can proudly wear the title you've chosen to give me.
bfj2,
Sorry to use your post for this. I just hate self proclamed experts spouting their likes and dislikes, especially when nobody asked.
a safety is another bit of protection, idiot (leedesert)
and it's fools like you, that carry "cocked and locked" and have NO respect for safety that worry me... I only hit what I MEAN to hit with my weapons...
you probably are the type to carry a live round, under the hammer of an old SA wheel gun too, thinking that "I don't have a finger on the trigger, it won't shoot"...
get off your high horse, and come back to Terra-Firma... Safeties are another step in firing the gun... if NOTHING else, think of it this way...
some stranger manages to get one of our guns away from us, and tries to shoot us... you are then a dead man, since your Glock is cocked and locked, with NO steps but to pull the trigger...
the unfamiliar fool has to at least figure out where my safety is, AND disengage it... giving me a few seconda to react... and MAYBE not die...
anybody that thinks a safety is "stupid" is themselves, stupid...
and it's fools like you, that carry "cocked and locked" and have NO respect for safety that worry me... I only hit what I MEAN to hit with my weapons...
you probably are the type to carry a live round, under the hammer of an old SA wheel gun too, thinking that "I don't have a finger on the trigger, it won't shoot"...
get off your high horse, and come back to Terra-Firma... Safeties are another step in firing the gun... if NOTHING else, think of it this way...
some stranger manages to get one of our guns away from us, and tries to shoot us... you are then a dead man, since your Glock is cocked and locked, with NO steps but to pull the trigger...
the unfamiliar fool has to at least figure out where my safety is, AND disengage it... giving me a few seconda to react... and MAYBE not die...
anybody that thinks a safety is "stupid" is themselves, stupid...
Again you prove your ignorance on this topic. A Glock is nothing like carrying a SA wheel gun. Glocks have safeties that prevent them for firing if dropped our banged in any way. The only way to shoot one is to pull the trigger head on.
A SA wheel gun has no firing pin safety or hammer safety. Of course you new that already didn't you?
Again you point out your ignorance on the subject.
When I carry a gun my first concern is how quickly I can deploy it when needed. When you shoot defensively under stress your ability to perform fine motor skills, like switching a safety off, diminishes. The chances of you dieing because you couldn't get your first shot off in time are far greater than the after thought of someone stealing your gun from you. To many assumptions have to be made in order to rationalize that the other party would not know how to turn off the safety and then allow you time to get your gun back.
Why would the bad guy know you have a gun if you haven't pulled it?
If you did pull your gun wouldn't you have turned off the safety considering there is a threat to your life.
If you have the ability to go after the guy once he's taken your gun than why didn't you fight for your gun before he took it?
Again to many assumptions have to be made.
If you are concerned about someone taking your gun (like most Police Departments) you increase your retention methods (like most Police Departments) not the locks on the gun. Once drawn the gun should be easy to handle and accurate to shoot.
Your thought process is like buying a tank as your family car so you can avoid injury in an accident.
The point is that the less things that stand between you and firing your gun under stress the better. That's why most Police Agencies, The FBI, and many other government agencies have went with Glock.
Reliability, Ease of use, Accuracy, and Durability.
I can't wait to see the next name you call me.
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I NEVER said that a Glock and a SA were the same, just that you were likely dumb enough to carry a SA with one under the hammer... if you're gonna quote me, PLEASE don't take it outta context.
I know full well how a Glock works, and I like neither the design, OR the method of use...
I know full well how a Glock works, and I like neither the design, OR the method of use...
I see that you are new to the Firing Line.
Allow me to educate you on the following.
When you are posting or replying don't call people names. It only serves to degrade your point and lowers the content quality of this fine board.
Also, don't jump in on someone else's thread so you can beat your own drum about how you dislike their choice of firearm. Especially when the information supporting your cause is purely personal.
If you were to open a thread stating how Glock's suck you would get closed quickly for starting a flame so don't do it in someone elses thread.
Your posts have been forwarded to the moderators.
Allow me to educate you on the following.
When you are posting or replying don't call people names. It only serves to degrade your point and lowers the content quality of this fine board.
Also, don't jump in on someone else's thread so you can beat your own drum about how you dislike their choice of firearm. Especially when the information supporting your cause is purely personal.
If you were to open a thread stating how Glock's suck you would get closed quickly for starting a flame so don't do it in someone elses thread.
Your posts have been forwarded to the moderators.
Who started with the insults first?
a quote from you... "Hemi,
I'm glad you won't buy Glock. A Glock should only be used by someone who knows how to handle a treat a firearm. You obviously don't since you need some type of mechanical device to keep from shooting yourself."
kind of insulting, eh?
I can only hope the mods read the FULL thread, and see that...
like I said, get off your high horse... you are NOT my supeior in ANY way... so quit acting like you are...
I likely know more about the use and treatment of firearms than you ever will, but I didn't start telling YOU that right off the bat, as you seem to have done...
Mods, please keep HIS posts in ind as you review this...
a quote from you... "Hemi,
I'm glad you won't buy Glock. A Glock should only be used by someone who knows how to handle a treat a firearm. You obviously don't since you need some type of mechanical device to keep from shooting yourself."
kind of insulting, eh?
I can only hope the mods read the FULL thread, and see that...
like I said, get off your high horse... you are NOT my supeior in ANY way... so quit acting like you are...
I likely know more about the use and treatment of firearms than you ever will, but I didn't start telling YOU that right off the bat, as you seem to have done...
Mods, please keep HIS posts in ind as you review this...
My replies to you were strictly based on the content of your posts.
There's a big difference between pointing out facts and calling people idiot and moron, and stating someones gun choice is bad because you say so.
One thing you don't do on the internet is get into arguements about who knows more because behind a keyboard, everyone is an expert. Hopefully you will learn that.
I am not superior to you however, the information I have provided is.
What I did do was state facts based on years of professional research and application with Glocks.
You only stated opinion since you have no evidence to support your claims.
There's a big difference between pointing out facts and calling people idiot and moron, and stating someones gun choice is bad because you say so.
One thing you don't do on the internet is get into arguements about who knows more because behind a keyboard, everyone is an expert. Hopefully you will learn that.
I am not superior to you however, the information I have provided is.
What I did do was state facts based on years of professional research and application with Glocks.
You only stated opinion since you have no evidence to support your claims.
Glad it all worked out.
I'd consider buying out-of-state or making the drive to get better service.
I took back a used SW 610 revolver with out-of-spec cylinder holes and the owner credited my money to my card within two days.
Always take problems up directly with the owner.
Most of the monkeys behind the counter don't know nor have shot most of the guns they're wearing. You'd think they'd known a lot being around them. But they don't.
On the advise of my counsel, the above statement does not apply to Tamara.
I'd consider buying out-of-state or making the drive to get better service.
I took back a used SW 610 revolver with out-of-spec cylinder holes and the owner credited my money to my card within two days.
Always take problems up directly with the owner.
Most of the monkeys behind the counter don't know nor have shot most of the guns they're wearing. You'd think they'd known a lot being around them. But they don't.
On the advise of my counsel, the above statement does not apply to Tamara.
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