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Just came across an old pocket version of the Tao Te Ching. I like the philosophies, though it's been years since any of it's entered my mind.

Randomly flipped to a page to see what kind of randomn wisdom might smack me in the forehead, and I kid you not, this is what I read:

Weapons are the tools of violence;
all decent men detest them.

Weapons are the tools of fear;
a descent man will avoid them
except in the direst necessity
and, if compelled, will use them
only with the utmost restraint.

Peace is his highest value.
If the peace has been shattered,
how can he be content?

His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.

He doesn't wish them personal harm.
Nor does he rejoice in victory.
How could he rejoice in victory
and delight in the slaughter of men?

He enters a battle gravely,
with sorrow and with great compassion,
as if he were attending a funeral.
 
onthejon55...

... I know you're young. You're initial post said you were going back to college after visiting home. But even if you hadn't said that, I could have predicted you'd be young.

Same goes for Rampage. If he isn't young, then I can't explain how he still has such a naive concept of what will get you into serious legal trouble, and possibly fatal trouble too.

If you want to question my testosterone levels, that's fine, it goes with your age I suppose. However, there are a few things that shape my perspective, so let me share them with you.

1) I've been responsible for training and leading fairly large numbers of young guys like you. At one point, was in charge of approximately 90 guys, most of whom were around your age. The majority of problems encountered that involved ego overwhelming good sense occurred with the younger age bracket of my guys.

2) In the past, the government has trusted me with command of $44M warplanes, complete with missiles and other munitions.

3) In the past, the government has trusted me with command of Sea Sparrow and CIWS weapon systems, plus control of interceptors, in defense of a nuclear aircraft carrier.

4) I've lived and worked alongside SEALs and Army SF as an air reconnaissance liaison.

5) I'll be heading over to Afghanistan in the fall, with my next job, so I'm not going to get overly perturbed about whether my testosterone levels meet your approval.

6) Just got back from an evening out with friends I work out with, cops and martial arts instructors. Want to guess how many of us have challenged random idiots in the past five or ten years? If you guessed anything other than zero, please recalibrate.

Now, from somebody who's older than you, and has seen a reasonable amount of stupid actions taken over the years.... but also from somebody who's still young enough to occasionally get in the middle of things... grow up.

Somebody said words you didn't like, so you chose to respond to guys when you had to know that aside from your Walther, you had absolutely no way to control what would happen next. You put your sister at risk; if the place was as deserted as you describe, and those guys were leching after her to begin with, what might they have done to her after they got done stomping you?

How would your pride and ego have dealt with that?

For Rampage, you need to brush up on the law as it relates to self-defense, and as it relates to actions that you might take that would deny you of a legal claim of self-defense. If you walk your own talk, you're an aggravated assault or worse conviction waiting to happen.
 
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Acting aggressively to aggression is insecurity.

The OP was not being dominated until he chose aggression then retreated. When they called out to his sister, it wasn't a confrontation, it was just an insecure male trying to prove himself.

To be dominant you have to figure out how to be Assertive and not fall prey to intimidation. Intimidation is useless against a truly dominant assertive male.

It is hard to be assertive and i don't always accomplish that goal, myself. I probably would have said "thats my sister dumb F**K because the guy was no threat. He was no threat, he's insecure he wouldn't do anything. He only became aggressive after the OP showed weakness.

He thought she was your girlfriend. Lets just get that out there now.

Next time just say that's my sister "Insult". Then, if the person responds more aggressively u can ignore it or just go up to the person face to face and ask him ***.
 
As a fellow CCW holder/gun rights proponent, I think what we should be focusing on is the fact that a gun was used in a responsible manner to ward off bodily harm...
Responsible? In what universe? This boy wrote a check with his mouth (and used testosterone for ink!) and then relied on his gun to cash that check!

It just smells like a hypothetical scenario that never really happened by someone who has never taken a CCW class.

Scott
 
I know I shouldnt have said anything but sometimes you cant help it. If there is nothing anyone can say to you to make you mad then you may want to get your testosterone levels checked. Every man has his breaking point and my breaking point comes when my sister is insulted in public.

If that's your breaking point, you're going to have a hard life.
 
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:mad: I agree with Archie on this one. This type of situation really ticks me off. Yes, the best thing (especially with your little sister involved) would to be have got in the car and drove away (plus you were armed to boot).

That does not mean you were not to be offended and ****** off. Nowadays, we unfortunately must not respond to insults, aggression, etc. We are just supposed to walk away with our tails tucked between our legs and slither off..

That was not the case many years ago. These guys would have got their butts kicked for doing this. Of course you being armed, means you have to leave and retreat. That is the law and protects you from possible inncarceration later on, (if you shoot one of them). Anyway, being armed always makes a big difference on your decisions in matters like that.

If I wasn't armed, I promise you I would have immediately jumped on the biggest guy and broke his nose straight away without saying a word. Immediate response takes these dirt bags by surprise (as it does most anyone). Sort of Shock n' Awe! No threats, no small talk, no anything, just immediate action. I promise you that they would not have expected that, but rather the normal BS and postering that ususally occurs when these things happen.

Yes, your little sister deserves to be treated with respect (as you do). As her big brother, you have a responsibility to protect her. No reason to take this kind of crap from anybody. But that is the way we are supposed to handle things nowadays.

However, being that you were armed, changes everything and you must walk away.
 
Post #82 is excellent.

Going to go ahead and close this one, as the discussion is just going in circles at this point.

pax
 
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