Most Effective Non-lethal Weapon
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I'd be more afraid of the dog....
That OC spray feels like it melts your eyes.
A buddy from a neighboring department told me that the night before he was to get certified (sprayed) to carry OC Spray, he made up his mind that no matter how much or how bad it burned, he was going to not show any effects to anyone who would be watching. A few days later, I asked Big Joe (6'6" 250 lbs & a super officer & human being) how was it? His exact words were "Terry, there's not enough water in the world. It felt like hot shards of glass were being electrocuted into my eyes."
If you've been exposed to it a few times, it does become more tolerable each time. Still a bad day regardless.....
But personally, given the choice to be sprayed w/ OC or to be attacked by a vicious dog, you can go ahead a juice me. The last thing I would want is an aggressive dog biting at my groin area. Which is about where a big dogs head is level with on my 5'10" frame.
That OC spray feels like it melts your eyes.
A buddy from a neighboring department told me that the night before he was to get certified (sprayed) to carry OC Spray, he made up his mind that no matter how much or how bad it burned, he was going to not show any effects to anyone who would be watching. A few days later, I asked Big Joe (6'6" 250 lbs & a super officer & human being) how was it? His exact words were "Terry, there's not enough water in the world. It felt like hot shards of glass were being electrocuted into my eyes."
If you've been exposed to it a few times, it does become more tolerable each time. Still a bad day regardless.....
But personally, given the choice to be sprayed w/ OC or to be attacked by a vicious dog, you can go ahead a juice me. The last thing I would want is an aggressive dog biting at my groin area. Which is about where a big dogs head is level with on my 5'10" frame.
Doc Intrepid
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There are drawbacks to every thing you can think of.
There are also circumstances where nothing will work.
That said, it would be more difficult for a single badguy to chase after you if they cannot see and are having trouble breathing due to a shot of pepper gel directly into their face.
Having been maced and exposed to a number of different OC, CS, and CN products during various training scenarios, after being exposed to the compounds my capacity to accurately aim a weapon or fight was compromised.
Given that a small cannister of pepper gel is a relatively convenient item to carry with you - especially for people who routinely go about their lives with a handgun and a pocket knife - it also acts as a reasonably effective force multiplier most of the time.
It gets my vote for being inconspicuous and relatively convenient, all else being equal.
YMMV.
There are also circumstances where nothing will work.
That said, it would be more difficult for a single badguy to chase after you if they cannot see and are having trouble breathing due to a shot of pepper gel directly into their face.
Having been maced and exposed to a number of different OC, CS, and CN products during various training scenarios, after being exposed to the compounds my capacity to accurately aim a weapon or fight was compromised.
Given that a small cannister of pepper gel is a relatively convenient item to carry with you - especially for people who routinely go about their lives with a handgun and a pocket knife - it also acts as a reasonably effective force multiplier most of the time.
It gets my vote for being inconspicuous and relatively convenient, all else being equal.
YMMV.
amazon shooter
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Man's Best Friend
Hi guys,
A GS as a companion on a leash says one thing - pick an easier target.
Hi guys,
A GS as a companion on a leash says one thing - pick an easier target.
Ringolevio
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I'm all for having a dog -- be it a German Shepherd or a Pomeranian -- but wouldn't have a dog for self defense. That gorgeous white GS in the pic in the previous post looks to me like he'd distract the perp by making friends. (Well, that how it would work with *me*, anyway.) 
In addition to my carry gun, I carry pepper spray and a small tactical flashlight in my purse. These mean that if a situation doesn't warrant lethal force, or if using lethal force might put innocent bystanders at risk, I've got other options. I was nearly electrocuted as a kid, so whatever I might know about tasers intellectually, they freak me out and I won't have one. When I'm hiking, I've got a good, stout walking stick with a steel-shod point on the end, but that's mostly to keep me from tripping over rocks or invisible specs of dust on the ground.
In addition to my carry gun, I carry pepper spray and a small tactical flashlight in my purse. These mean that if a situation doesn't warrant lethal force, or if using lethal force might put innocent bystanders at risk, I've got other options. I was nearly electrocuted as a kid, so whatever I might know about tasers intellectually, they freak me out and I won't have one. When I'm hiking, I've got a good, stout walking stick with a steel-shod point on the end, but that's mostly to keep me from tripping over rocks or invisible specs of dust on the ground.
AirborneMosinFan
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Pepper spray
It's the best by far, I'm taking this chance to quote the hangover "some of these big boys need an extra shock to take them down" do you want to carry two tazers? But pepper stray blinds you, I didn't know I guy in my who regiment who could orient them selfsame enough to attack after being hit with a small spray of the stuff and they sell some that can spray across a room, and that's perfect if you are not worried about your life enough to kill the perp
It's the best by far, I'm taking this chance to quote the hangover "some of these big boys need an extra shock to take them down" do you want to carry two tazers? But pepper stray blinds you, I didn't know I guy in my who regiment who could orient them selfsame enough to attack after being hit with a small spray of the stuff and they sell some that can spray across a room, and that's perfect if you are not worried about your life enough to kill the perp