Moslems in Minnesota.

[Sycofrogg]

See, and I'm not entirely sure but I think the law disagrees with you. And even if it didn't then I would, because I think that the standard to be applied here is whether the religious objection causes a substantial obstruction to the business. In this case (not scanning pork) it doesn't. In some cases (the only pharmacist on duty refusing to fill birth control prescriptions) it does. Oddly, the latter has (IIRC) been protected by law...so certainly the former should be.

Ok, then all vegans can refuse to scan any type of meat, poultry, and dairy products. Atheist, any type of religious products, or any one who wishes to create whatever type of religion to relieve their work out of laziness.

Where does that end?

 

[JuanCarlos]

It sounds to me like not very many of you fly. I have six or eight times since 9/11 and had to go through extra screening all but one. I am about as white American as they come. Two of the times I was with my wife and daughter. So I am wondering where you are getting your information that only Muslims are having to go through this. IMO it is a small inconvience for the price of safety. I think some of you need to get out more.

It's a small inconvenience if you're choosing it for yourself. Less so when others choose it for you.

Also, yay for small samples...because I've flown more like 10 or 15 times since 9/11, and been singled out only 3 times...once was on 9/15 (and they were still screening everybody), once was because I refused to take off my boots because I was tired, cranky, and on my way back to Iraq, and once was because I had what I'm sure resembled a bomb-making kit in my backpack (Electrical Engineering student, and had my kit in there).

So two for (in theory) cause and one was less than a week after the towers fell. So whose anecdotal evidence wins?

Ok, then all vegans can refuse to scan any type of meat, poultry, and dairy products. Atheist, any type of religious products, or any one who wishes to create whatever type of religion to relieve their work out of laziness.

Where does that end?

Gee, good question. Better question is whether it's fun sliding down that slippery slope. Veganism is not a protected class, religion is. Athiests don't have a religious objection to handling religious items, because they don't follow a religion. Most I've met are rational enough to know that handling a Bible isn't going to hurt them one way or another. As for the whole "any one else" portion...well, again, we'll slide down that slippery bridge when we come to it I suppose.

 

[Let it Bleed]

The point you obviously missed is that your whole "we profile white males as serial killers" statement makes no sense and bears no relevance, because white males as a whole are completely unaffected by this supposed profiling.

The entire point of my post is that profiling allows for the most efficient utilization of resources, not the same methods. Additionally, statistical facts bear no malice towards any group.

I'm sorry serial killers aren't trying to sneak body parts on planes, but radical muslims have used mass transit as a means of carrying out numerous terrorist attacks. Different strategies for different criminal behavior.

It has been suggested that the D.C. snipers and the Atlanta child killer evaded capture longer, because police were convinced the perpetrators were white. Does this change the fact that most serial murderers are white?

Analogous to this is Timothy McVeigh. He likewise does not disprove the fact that most terrorist today are muslim extremists.

Therefore, since most terrorists are muslim and there is only a finite amount of resources that can be applied to any problem, is it not reasonable to more closely scrutinize individuals that fit the profile of a terrorist?

I have never suggested that muslims should forfeit their civil liberties based on their associations. I simply submit that facts and reasonable suspicion should guide our response and not bigotry nor political correctness.

I would also appreciate it if you did not deign to decide what you suppose I may or may not have misapprehended.

 

[CrustyFN]

It's a small inconvenience if you're choosing it for yourself. Less so when others choose it for you.

Sorry I am confussed now. I didn't know I chose all of those extra screenings for myself.

 

[TheBluesMan]

Sorry I'm so late with the lock. It certainly is past due.

I'm going to bookmark this thread as an example of why topics like this should be nipped in the bud from now on.

-Dave