Moslems in Minnesota.

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Or is it Michigan?
Airport cabbies refusing fares that are carrying liquor.
Wal-Mart cashiers refusing to scan/handle items with pork.
Moslem organizations, with full support from Pelosi & Co., seeking decreased airport screening of those that fit the Middle Eastern profile.
Trouble ahead?:rolleyes:
 
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This sounds like the opener for a Muslim bashing thread. I worked in Iraq with many Muslims. Good people. They have as much a right to their religious beliefs as anybody else does. If a doctor has the right to refuse to perform abortions, prescribe birth control, etc., because those things offend his Christian sensibilities..certainly Muslims have the right to refuse things that offend their religious sensibilities. (within the limitations imposed by their employers of course)

And airport screening? Singling persons out simply because of their religious or ethnic background is wrong plain and simple.
 
there are solutions,we just are not there yet...

right now,ill just keep what i beleive the solution is to myself...i do think there will be a better time to state solutions of this sort,but not yet,no not yet...the feeling this country had in the following 24 months after 9/11/01 (RIP) would be more like the climate needed to express myself,now people will just think imm ultra right wing(i am).we should stop catering to these***** *** ******...growing up where i am right now,as a young boy i watched the WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS go up,week by week,month by month...i was in awe.i watched them grow right out my back window(2 miles away )iwas there to help on the pile,but the feds had a tight rope around the area and damm right they should have...but its a scar that we all bear, even if your 3000 miles away... ok let me get off my soap box,its just a subject that strikes deep.so give me a company of national gaurdsmen an ill go around and work some magic,those ****** ******'s in minn. and anywhere else on MY soil will just be glad they are not with there cousins in guantonamo. you gotta make em scared to open there mouths about anything...i,personally will never forget how a certain bunch of scum,danced in the streets in jersey,right across the river from the ashes ON SEPT.12th. im sorry if i have moved from what these prior posts were subjecting,ill try to stay in the subject in the future.
 
there is good and evil in all nations,JUST MORE OF IT THERE>>>

look ,when you have a problem like terrorism, its hard to seperate people.racial profiling is a problem thats harder to deal with in the case of muslems...as opposed to some of our domestic(american on american predjudices)but that aside,even if you exclude irag's people here and there,if you dont realize that 99% of all other muslems,no matter where they are,HATE US,whether they are here or there,your not operating with your eyes open. THEY HATE AMERICA,face it and the little kids in these countries are getting a crash course in how to extract blood from an american. some countries more than others,but its like that,face it-fight it-eliminate it for OUR children. good muslems that have realized that the koran is coded in evil,just dont admit it.but the ones that are talking crap against us,while they live here should definately be profiled. yes let a little white haired granny go right thru in an airport,and yes,stop and check anyone that fits a profile whether they are on a list or not.thats ok in my 2007 book of survival of america.
 
...certainly Muslims have the right to refuse things that offend their religious sensibilities. (within the limitations imposed by their employers of course)
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If you are a cashier in a pharmacy and you refuse to ring up certain products that offend your religious ethics, say birth control items, forcing another employee to do it for you, don't be surprised if you never get a raise or even if you are terminated. This would not be for your religious convictions but for your inability to do the job as described. If a Muslim applied for a job as a butcher in a grocery store, he better realize part of that job requires handling & cutting pork and find a way to deal with it.

And airport screening? Singling persons out simply because of their religious or ethnic background is wrong plain and simple.
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Is it really? How many Buddists, Catholics, Jews or Hindus were involved in the 9/11 attacks? How many Japanese, Chinese, Swedes, Swiss, Israelis or Hispanics were involved in 9/11 attacks? If you are a screener and someone of Middle-Eastern background passes the metal detector can you think of no reason the 2nd-level screeners should not interview him?

I worked with an Indian fellow who is a Sikh -- you know, the ones who wear a turban and a full beard -- and he has been pulled out for extra screening. When he tells them he is a Sikh and doesn't mind the additional security, the screeners usually wave him through after some quick questions. He says it's a nusiance but he feels better that they're paying attention rather than worrying about being "politically correct".
 
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within the limitations imposed by their employers of course)
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My feelings exactly!
If you're beliefs are THAT unwavering, than don't work in a service occupation.
Will they next come into your favorite neighborhood restaurant and demand that pork be taken off the menu.
Something similar happened recently at a hotel where sausage was part of the breakfast buffet.
A group of Moslems DEMANDED that it be removed.
And the hotel complied!!!!:eek:
Can you imagine!
I wish I had've been eating breakfast there!;)
I recently heard on the news of a woman being forced to remove a Winnie the Pooh doll from her work area because it "offended" a Moslem co-worker.
What's next......Moslem police refusing to apprehend someone in a store with pork products?
Moslem EMS refusing to aide a car crash victim because there is alcohol in the car?
Separate eating facilities in all schools and businesses.
Will we all be forced to observe multiple daily prayer rituals just so we don't "offend" those moslems in the community?
Look at the imams suing the airlines for discrimination.
They were purposely saying things anti-American and acting suspiciously.
The even want the people that complained to authorities about them to be part of the lawsuit!!
These don't sound like the actions of a people that want to assimilate into the American framework.
Does it?
Sounds like they are just testing the waters to see how far they can go.
Look at what is happening in Europe thanks to the policies of appeasement and mass immigration.
Wake up America.
Let's not lose our freedom by being stupid.
 
This thread is going to get hateful and spiteful real fast. People are going to say things that they'll regret, or would never say if their words had faces and names attached to them.

As for racial profiling, I'm willing to admit it works. But that's still no excuse.

It's the freaking government that you're trusting to run your security. You give the government an inch, they'll take everything you own.

Our memories are too short. Everyone swore that Timothy McVeigh must have been some towelhead out to exterminate us infidels. Until we realized that he was very white, and very homegrown.

But Timothy McVeigh may just be an exception. Who cares. I never comprimise my liberties or anyone else's for the sake of security. The next big terrorist plot may very well be carried out by people of your nationality, religion, and ethnicity. Prepare to be screwed, royally.

Hey, I suppose we should put Muslims/Asians behind fences until the war on terror/Japan is over.

Oh, xenophobia.
 
As for racial profiling, I'm willing to admit it works. But that's still no excuse
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I couldn't disagree more if it works use it. If it ain't broke don't fix it same idea.
I could give plenty of examples but why? Bottom line is it's not political correct? ALL political correctness can cease and desist immediately. IMHO
It is damaging society far worse than it is beneficial.
 
As for racial profiling, I'm willing to admit it works. But that's still no excuse.
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It works.......but we shouldn't use it?!?!?!?!?!:confused:
Amazing reasoning!:rolleyes:

Yeah! I guess a few extra minutes of questioning and a more thorough baggage check IS too high a price to pay to lessen the chance that the plane my wife and child are on will not smash into a highrise bldg or disintegrate into a fireball.
Just look at every one of the 9/11 terrorists.
They all looked completely different, didn't they?

What was I thinking!?:o

And regardless of what we say, it will STILL be used.
Just not overtly.

Of all the major conflicts in the world right now, it's Moslems against some other group of people.
As Europe goes, so shall we, if we are not vigilant.
 
Yeah! I guess a few extra minutes of questioning and a more thorough baggage check IS too high a price to pay to lessen the chance that the plane my wife and child are on will not smash into a highrise bldg or disintegrate into a fireball.
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I knew it. I knew it was going to happen. I suppose the next thing you'll say is,

"I'm not racist. Not all Muslims are terrorists."

It's all or nothing. Either everyone gets profiled, or nobody does. Nobody is entitled to preferential treatment, especially by government employees.

Have you ever been to Madison Square Garden? Rediculous security, and a very awesome target for terrorists. Think about it. You ram a plane into a building, you kill a few thousand infidels. You blow up a basketball arena, you kill 10,000+ And you'll be doing it on live tv. So why hasn't anyone blown up MSG? Because the security there actually works. They run thousands of ticketholders past their gates within minutes and without a hitch or incident. It take me hours to get through airport security.

Why does their security work? Because they have a private security force that has a stake in their assets. They don't use racial profiling. They're much more competent. The airlines deferred their responsibilities to a bunch of government guys who wouldn't give two cents if a terrorist slips by. Their excuse to use racial profiling is merely an ecuse to use arbitrary profiling. If people can allow racial profiling for the sake of security, what's next? Gunowner profiling? "Ya know, gun crimes are commited by people with guns. We'd better single out people with guns then."

Even at Ben Gurion airport in Israel, they don't practice racial profiling. What does that tell you? They do behavioral profiling. Like if you're wearing a coat when it's 90 degrees outside, or if you're 8 months pregnant and travelling alone. When they single people out, they have reason and cause.

By supporting racial profiling, you're allowing incompetant goverment employees to single out people, who apparently, have had the tragic misfortune of not being born of your race.
 
PC makes me wanna puke. I said it in 94 when it first started popping up, and people just laughed. Now it's more obvious and finally people are taking notice.
 
It's all or nothing. Either everyone gets profiled, or nobody does.
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That's nonsensical. You can do security checks with increased frequency on people who look like they are from the middle east. Don't have to screen all of them.

Racial profiling has probably already saved lives.

who apparently, have had the tragic misfortune of not being born of your race.
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Theres nothing tragic about that, what is tragic is the "misfortune" that a group of Islamic extremists visited upon us. Tragic for us, and tragic for Muslims who don't share their views around the globe... Which by now is an ever shrinking group.

Even at Ben Gurion airport in Israel, they don't practice racial profiling.
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"Hey Avi, let's single out everyone who looks like they are Middle Eastern and put them through a strip search..."

"Hey dumb***... THEY ARE ALL MIDDLE EASTERN!"

It's Israel, it just happens to be home to quite a few racially Semitic/Middle Eastern types. I doubt you could tell the difference between most Jews born there and a Muslim.

This has been fun, but actually I'm not sure if I am pro-racial profiling.
 
That's nonsensical. You can do security checks with increased frequency on people who look like they are from the middle east.
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So they can get held up in lines while you coast through, without public humiliation or embarrassment. Who died and gave you the right to preferential treatment?

It's Israel, it just happens to be home to quite a few racially Semitic/Middle Eastern types. I doubt you could tell the difference between most Jews born there and a Muslim.
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More importantly, why does their security work while ours doesn't? You cannot deny that terrorists would love to blow up a plane full of zionist infidels more so than a plane full of american imperialist infidels, right? And Ben Gurion is much, much closer to their homes than JFK or Dulles.

Because Israeli planes single people out with reason and cause, not by arbitration. Because they have armed marshalls on their planes.

If you want to single out middle-eastern people at airports, you might as well single out men whenever they walk down streets. Because the vast majority of rapists are men.

We should single out white people before hiring them. Because the vast majority of greedy corrupt CEO's are white people.

We should single out gunowners for stepping foot outside of their own houses. Because the vast majority of gun crimes are commited by people who own guns.
 
And I almost forgot - we should single out Japanese folks before they try to board planes or ships. Because the vast majority of those involved in bombing Pearl Harbor were of Japanese descent.

Oh.... wait....
 
And I almost forgot - we should single out Japanese folks before they try to board planes or ships. Because the vast majority of those involved in bombing Pearl Harbor were of Japanese descent.
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Makes as much since as arguments made above IMO.
If it looks like a duck.......walks, you get the idea.
 
applesanity,
I can see the first part of your name.....but the "sanity" part...well.....:confused:

In your own words..
As for racial profiling, I'm willing to admit it works
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And throw in behavioral profiling as well!

I have no doubt you'd be a BIG supporter of racial profiling if your family was on one of the 9/11 planes.

How stupid one must be to think that if a certain group of people are committing heineous crimes, there should'nt be a little more attention put ON THOSE PEOPLE.
Especially when dealing with such animals as Moslem extremists.
Does anyone really doubt there are cells here already?
And guess what?
They aren't hiding in Amish country! Duh!!:rolleyes:
 
Yeah, yeah, yeah

Theres good and bad of everybody and everything that crawls, breathes or grows. Profiling is a liberal word devised to try to shut the mouthes of anybody that sees a danger in something human, animal, fowl, or plant.

Anything that causes trouble continually will be scrutinized. Get used to profiling as some humans cause more problems than others and they will be in the spotlight and scruitiny as long as they act accordingly.
 
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