Mosin-Nagant

I can remember buying new pistols at the hardware store too. No checks, transfers nothing other than age & only if you didn't look old enough.
Enjoy your new Mosin. 91/30. Now you just a few other models. The M44 is one of my favorites.
 
I would also recommend checking out Budsgunshop.com website. They have a few Mosin's for sale and they usually include shipping with the purchase price.

I highly recommend the 91/30 Hex receiver which is $169shipped from them. If you are considering buying a Mosin rifle, just go ahead and buy one now. They are not going to get cheaper and will only go up in price. Mosin's are basically the last cheap military surplus rifle you can get for under $200 that still has widely available and affordable ammo.
 
love me Mosin Nagants. i buy MN T53's for $60 each from century arms. they are copies of M44 carbine. i have ordered 3 in last week. they shoot the same 7.62X54R cartridge that the M91-30 does.
 
I looked at the Buds website. My preferred FFL is already listed there. But the 91/30 at Buds does not have the extras of the dealer I linked above. So how much is the value, if any, of the extras listed? They were not on display at the dealers. Buds is $20 less.
 
I did not get any extras with mine from Cabelas. I originally was disappointed I didn't, but have since changed my mind. I'm not sure I would really use any of the extras anyway. The bayonet does look fun, however. Haha

The only thing I would like to have gotten with mine is the M-N tear-drop tool. It seems to be the most useful extra, but I'll probably just get one online.
 
Opinated said:
I looked at the Buds website. My preferred FFL is already listed there. But the 91/30 at Buds does not have the extras of the dealer I linked above. So how much is the value, if any, of the extras listed? They were not on display at the dealers. Buds is $20 less.
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For the extra $20 I would recommend the accessories.
 
http://www.jgsales.com/c-r-guns-c-290.html

That's a good place to start. I bought a Ishy round receiver off of them when they were around $79 or so. I didn't really know what I was getting got a 1942 all matching, of course, covered in cosmoline.

I've never disassembled the rifle again after initially doing it to get the cosmoline OUT, and I don't believe you need to. After shooting it a few times and cleaning the heck out of the bore, it looks better down there than it did. It shoots to POA so I'm not too worried about it. Ammonia is the way to go if you really want to make sure you get the salts out, but I've never been done wrong with Hopps followed by a couple patches of CLP.

The point is, I don't really think you need to pay that kind of coin if you're looking for a standard issue Mosin (which it seems like you are). If you're not a collector of Mosins, I hardly see the point in plunking down extra coin for what is essentially just a milsurp gun. Ammo is still cheap and plentiful and showing no signs of waning demand so spending more money seems counterproductive. The accessories are nice but not a deal maker. If you are fortunate enough to have a C&R then jgsales.com is the way to go. I didn't, but still only paid about $17 in freight and the $25 transfer. I still made out like a bandit.
 
I disassembled mine yesterday. It didn't look like it had been disassembled recently, but it may have. My barrel (under the top handguard) was marked KO-91/30 Made in Russia, with some other marks and the caliber.
I googled KO-91/30 and apparently it is some sort if importer mark (Molot) from what I can tell, even though it has the PW Arms etching as well. The stock has a lot of cosmoline, but I started floating the barrel. Once I can get the cosmoline out if the stock, I'm sure it will sand much easier and faster.

I also cleaned it thoroughly, and the barrel was really nasty. 4-5 black patches with Hoppes #9. I'm ready to hit the range and try it out!
 
Molot is a former soviet arms factory. They processed the rifles from long term storage, and boxed them up as "hunting rifles" so they could get around restrictions on shipping military weapons across the EU.

PW arms is the importer.

That long skinny barrel may not like to be free floated. There is a Soviet manual that shows wrapping the barrel in oiled felt under the handguard near the front band, and some people have also used cork in the same area to make a pressure point. You can move it around to see what the rifle likes the best.
 
I used the cork method, after free floating it. I put a little piece under the barrell at the very end of the stock. The groups did tighten nicely, and brought me a little close to center.
Every time I disassemble the gun, I soak that piece of cork in wd40 to keep it flexible and to prevente moisture buildup in there when everything is put together.
Check out some of the threads from a few months ago. Lots of good info.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I had seen somewhere about an attempt to float a M-N, using a dollar bill as a guide. I'm not sure if it was the stock itself, or the cosmoline (probably a little of both), but the dollar bill was having a heck of a time moving with the action screwed into the stock. I'll keep the felt and cork in mind, and go looking for those threads.
 
OK, I now have a Mosin. Apparently from Century Arms. Have the cleaning rod, the little tool kit but mine has one less item than in the video linked below. I have the little container with double caps-- anyone know why the two screw-on caps on the container?
New serial number done by laser. Older number stamped on bolt and receiver match-- MYXXXX-- 4 digits after the MY. Serial number on the bayonet does not match at all. The bayonet looks to be unused-- black all over. The numbers 1943 are also on the receiver-- is that the date? Is 1943 good or bad?

Did preliminary cleaning with just paper towels due to the press of time today. I know that photos are often requested but I am not good with photos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbibUKGlPiM

What can you tell me?
 
Post a photo of the barrel stub, where the date is, we can tell you more. 1943 means wartime production, generally speaking the exterior of the receiver is a little less "finished" than pre-war rifles.

Here are a pair of Izhevsk Mosins, denoted by the triangle with arrow. Compare the receiver machining, look how rough the 1943 is compared with the 1939. It doesn't effect how the rifle functions, but you can tell they took less time on the wartime example.

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And a 43 Tula with the star/arrow. It is a PU Sniper, that is why the "CH" and extra S/N.

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The container has two caps because it has two compartments, it was designed so one side had bore cleaner, the other oil.

Lots of info on barrel markings here: http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRef02.htm

And accessories here: http://www.7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAcc.htm
 
Watch the Mosin Nagant videos on the YouTube channel below. He is an expert on Mosins, and has been collecting them since the early 1980's. His videos are the best out there. Don’t skip over the bolt videos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RockIsland1913/search?query=mosin+nagant

I cleaned the metal parts with mineral spirits. Probably the best method for cleaning the grease off the metal parts. Do not get any mineral spirits on the wood. A hair dryer works on the wood.

Cleanup after shooting corrosive ammo isn’t bad at all. Run hot water thru the barrel, then dry patch, then Hoppe’s 9, or your favorite solvent, then finish with a patch of oil. You can get surplus ammo for about $0.22 per round. Prvi Partizan for about $0.80 per round. Surplus 7.62x54R is easier to find and cheaper than .22 LR.
 
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