Mosin-Nagant

Opinated said:
The crate was not for individual rifles-- big crate with 30 or more rifles. Buy one and you just get a box--assumed to be corrugated, also not on display. They did offer 3 for about $171 each out the door-- but I do not want or need 3. Probably will just forgo the Moisin altogether. I do have an 1891 Chilean Mauser.
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I wouldn't assume you get a box. You might get a bag for the accessories though. That would be a good price for the recent m44's I've seen. Now I'm assuming your looking at the 91/30's?
The hex receivers bump the price up some. On those with the scoped sniper model much higher. One advantage you have is you can hand pick yourself for the better ones. You can probably find one for $129 with out accessories , then there's possibly tax, shipping , ffl transfer.
Personally I wouldn't let $20 keep me from getting one if I wanted it. I also think everyone should own one these and a piece of history.
 
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Em,
The Soviets had an alkaline solution in one compartment as a cleaner/neutralizer & oil in the other side.

In my case, I don't mess with boiling water, either creating it & risking a burn or a mess in pouring it down the bore, and I don't have to worry about where it goes when it comes out the other end.
I do not disassemble my rifles beyond removing the bolt.

I can do the whole process sitting in front of the TV in the living room.
For me, simpler & easier.
For you, do whatever you want.
My point was that boiling water is not necessary for those looking for alternatives.

There is no one single correct way to clean a Mosin.

You may notice I didn't even get into the WD-40 thing, which I will not allow in any of my guns. :)
Denis
 
I bought my Mosin when it was 90 dollars from a local big box store a few years ago. Cleaning has been minimal. I just use Windex to get me from my shooting spot to home, as supposedly it neutralizes the corrosive salts in the primers. After that, some hot water, oil, and done. It might take an extra 5 minutes, but hey, it's a 90 dollar rifle. Maybe I'm just too far gone, but I actually like cleaning guns so I don't mind.

Also, do yourself a big favor and take apart your bolt and get all the cosmoline/grease out of there. If your bolt gets too hot it'll bind up if you don't get it all. If you disassemble it completely you can just throw all the parts in a pot of boiling water for a few minutes and all the cosmoline should go away.

Brake cleaner worked pretty good for me and all the metal parts too.
 
Aim Surplus lists Mosin's from $119. To $179 I have an 03 FFL so shipping is the only other cost and my Westie receives a cookie from the UPS driver...a win-win situation for me. I would not invest more than $120 in any Mosin as I enjoy shooting other rifles more than mosin's and to an old guy the carbines are brutal on my shoulder. Others love em'.
 
My point was that boiling water is not necessary for those looking for alternatives.
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Correct, it isn't. All that is really needed to remove salts is water, the advantage to boiling\hot water is that it evaporates much quicker.

You may notice I didn't even get into the WD-40 thing, which I will not allow in any of my guns.
Denis
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The only thing I use WD40 for is to make sure all the water is out of the bore. That is what it was made for, Water Displacement. I use CLP to keep things lubed and protected.
 
WD40 is perfectly fine to use in guns so long as you are not attempting to use it as lube. I used to use it all the time in my model 60 marlin and it never saw any problems.
 
WD40 works great as starting fluid and killing wasp nests too.
Soapy water or windex with ammonia works too.
While in the woods,
A quick and easily improvised method of removing the crossover salts from the barrel is to take a whizz in it!
 
On purchasing a Mosin-Nagant, the Aim Surplus website is now at $130 round money plus shipping and the local FFL fee. Here is a link to the gunshop I visited last week.
http://www.duncangun.com/
Scroll down to the M-N. Not sure when this was posted. Last week the crate was about half empty. With all the grease, it was difficult to choose one over the other. Duncan offers more accessories, so it appears.
Locally I would pay about $30 more than from Aim when all costs are added in. So which supplier, in your opinion, would be my better choice?
Duncan was really high on some ammo calibers, about $6.50 per box more than some nearby suppliers.
 
Does your AIM price include shipping?

Even if not, $30 would be worth it to me to pick the best of what is available, assuming there are half a dozen or so left.
 
Street price online now is $129, at multiple dealer sites. Add about $20/rifle for shipping (less for multiples combining shipping), and at $150 I'd say it's far from a "deal" at $193, even if it includes FFL transfers if you don't have a C&R.
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I'd be willing to pay more to cherry pick a rifle. Besides the cheap Mosins are drying up, find a deal but get the best rifle you can get your hands on.
WD40 is perfectly fine to use in guns so long as you are not attempting to use it as lube.
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I've used it before and noticed it tends to leave residue as it dries up. I don't recommend using it without following up with a proper cleanup to remove it.YMMV
 
My most recent purchase was from a newly opened Gander Mountain here in central Texas.

Many have said that GM is overpriced. I would agree, somewhat. My 91/30 was tagged at $179 and came out to about $193 out the door.

I'd probably have passed on it, but the salesman. showed me several rifles and the last one I saw was a '27 Tula "5 line" ex-dragoon refurb with an awesome bore, 95% blueing and a decent 85-90% shellac stock.

It came with bayonet and all the normal accessories except the pouches. Not a steal, but fair enough, in my opinion.
 
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wouldn't that add salt?
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Not really. The ammonia is what works. Or so I was told. I've Never been that desperate yet.

AIM has some pretty good deals on mosins, especially if your close enough to go there and pick up. They still charge a FFL fee when picking up there too.
 
From what I've heard and read, nothing is needed to "neutralize" or get rid of the corrosive deposits from the mercuric primers, other than plain old water.
No vinegar, no ammonia, no nothing. Just water. Flush it out. Done. :rolleyes:
Something about trying to pee down a rifle barrel just doesn't appeal to me at all.. :D
 
FWIW, I just use CLP and patches and clean as I would any other rifle, the only time my guns rust is if I forget to clean them.
 
"Ammonia can be a good copper solvent, "
Correct. While one could not use it on firearms, anhydrous ammonia used for farm fertilizer will destroy brass or copper fittings overnight.
 
well mosin price wise mine was 98 on sale, and for corrosive i personally use windex, then the hopps corrosive cleaner on it, and my barrel looks like new, then apply light oil down the barrel , also leaving the windex on for 10-15 min then ditto the hopps. after this, i clean till my wads run white and then apply the oil.


when i clean my guns im picky about them being perfectly clean and lubed for the next time i shoot, could be a while with my luck
 
Found a seller who offers several varieties of old military rifles and ammo at attractive prices. Was planning an order and a trip to pickup my purchases as the cost of driving to their location would not be more than the shipping costs. Turns out that they ship ONLY-- no pick up at their location. They do have one fellow near them that they allow to pick up and customers can then pick up from that fellow's business. Turns out that his fees eat up all the anticipated savings and it would be just as well to let the UPS bring it to me or my local FFL, as the case may be. Shooting is not low cost anymore. Additional links in the distribution chain do not result in lower costs.
I guess that I really am older than dirt. I can remember when the country store near me had a catalog from one of this suppliers with a good variety of firearms, including handguns. If you were 21 or older, just order what you what and pick it up at the store about week later. No hassle.
 
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