Mom just told me guns are evil..help me with my sanity

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Miss Demeanors

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UGH! I just got back from the Kane county gun show. I met Gwinnydapooh, his fiancee Melissa, and Christopher from here at TFL. It was great meeting fellow TFL'rs and we had a good time checking out all the guns and knives. We all went out to eat after the show and talked about some of the threads here LOL. Anyway coming home from a great day, I called my Mom to let her know Id be there soon to pick up my girl. She knew I was going to the Kane county fairgrounds, but didn't really ask what was there so I sure didn't mention it. Well it turns out they drove past the fairgrounds and saw the sign "Gun show" LMAO. I guess they were saying "No, Sandy would never go to something like that" SURPRISE MOM! :D My mom was shocked! I told her that I have aquired an interest in firearms (better term than gun nut :D) and have been learning about them. She freaked! She didn't yell or anything but I felt like I was talking to Sarah Brady before reality struck. She thinks guns are evil and that no one in our family has guns "Your grandfather hated guns!!". Another surprise mom....Dad bought a .38 special when you two first got married :D. She walked around it and said that someone gave it to him and he didn't want it blah blah blah. She went on that guns are not a 'nice' thing to learn about and that I should spend my time helping people. :D So, I said I have helped a few people, I have taught them what little I know about firearms and helped them see that guns aren't as bad as you think. She just couldn't believe it, her daughter into guns and why would I want to do that. She says that the "NBA RIFLE CLUB" (LMAO she was trying to say NRA) is a bunch of nuts wanting all their guns. SHOCK NUMBER 3...ya mom I joined the NRA I am a memeber. I think I gave the poor woman an anxiety attack. I tried to just give her very little info but she kept setting herself up and I couldn't pass. I told her about the second amendment and that I have a 'passion' to help make sure no one takes that away from us. She said just said Ok we aren't going to agree so lets just end the topic. So that was the end. I am going to pick my girl up there and I am betting my life they are going to sit me down for a lecture LOL. I just went through this with my friend a few weeks ago, so I am up for it. I am remembering all the advice that was given to me here and am going to stick to my guns (pun intended). Does ANYONE else have an entire family that is anti? Am the only one? I know everyone has a few anti's in the family but the WHOLE family? That is like 12 against 1 :(. What would any of you do in this situation? Give up or just keep at it and don't mention it? I feel like an outsider because they all really don't like guns especially the women. They think I am brainwashed. They also can't understand why I, of all people, who saw first hand what a gun, improperly used ,can do. I told her that I met some friends from the internet up there that are into guns as well, and they were very normal, why does it make me abnormal?

PHEW, I am a yapper! :) Just had to vent I'm off to anti world for a little bit! [/rant]

To Don, Melissa, and Christopher it was great meeting you all! Glad you found out what an Oasis is ;) LMAO

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Well.......it sounds like you have a real bad case of the anti's........try reason.......attempt persuasion.........and if all else fails.......do what I did.......just wear 'em down ;).

Good luck.

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Miss D;
I had one or two relatives like that. An argument I found effective was to say that guns are not inherently good or evil. They are tools that cn be put to either good uses or evil ones. I don't think that converted them but it gave them some serios thoughts.

Fortuneatly my Mother was not one of them. She was too fond of her Walther PPK to be anti-gun.
I'm glad you enjoyed the gun show. Hang in there and stick to your guns!

Regards, Hard Ball
 
Tell her that a gun is no more evil than her toaster. It's just waiting there for her to drop her gaurd and stick her butter knife in to unstick that english muffin. ;)
 
Miss D.
It took me four years to get my sister to shoot a gun, i cant say she is totaly pro gun, but its a start.
With dad's help i also got my stepmother around too, she will not own or fire a gun but understands the need to protect our rights.
It helps to have that one perfect question asked by one of the antis...what if the government did....thats why we have a RKBA.
Keep working at it some will come around!
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Miss Demeanors,
I kind of understand where your coming from except my mother is wondering what happened to me because prior to meeting Gunslinger I my self was not anti but I was very gun shy and they scared me to death, but after meeting Gunslinger I found out they are quite interesting and I'm now at the point I want to learn more and more. The gunshow is very educational, I learned alot at the Tulsa show last weekend, it was very worth the trip.

I was raised up around guns but very few, just a few rifles that was used for rabbit hunting and I had a 4-10 shotgun as a small child and did use it for hunting, but when I got older I got scared of guns, just to see a gun would make me shake, so my mother thinks I have lost my rocker, but one of these days she will understand you never get too old to change. :)

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Just a suggestion ... Next time you see a LEO with a gun, ask your mother if that gun is evil. WWII picture of a soldier with a rifle - evil or good ( recommend allies soldier - Nazis SS guy may not help you make your point ;)

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Rob
From the Committee to Use Proffesional Politicians as Lab Animals
 
terridarri, Miss D actually made the Tulsa show last Oct. She was amazed that people were walking around the parking lot with guns slung over their shoulders in town. She claims that you just don't see that in Chicago. She is probably right, if people were legally walking around Chicago with guns I would suspect the crime rate would be lower.

Hey Sandy, was it as big as Tulsa? ;) How long did it take to walk?
 
MissD,

Has any member of your family ever had an accident, say, with a power tool or some other hand tool? It may be an example to use against the "guns are evil" argument. Just bring up the "evil drill press" that drilled a hole in cousin Bob's finger. 'Not trying to be gross, but if there is an example in the family, I'd use it.

They will deny it's the same thing. That's when you put on one of those big goofy green smiley grins (God save me!) :D, 'cause you know you got 'em!

Now, go get 'em!
 
Miss D,

"...grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference..."

Good luck...

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...defend the 2nd., it protects us all.
No fate but what we make...
 
Well I made it back in one piece sanity and all :D. My dad asked me how it was and how much it cost to get in and that was it! :D I think my dad is hiding something ;). So I can take a break on this today.

Glad to hear others hear the same things as I do.

Unfortunatley the only accident we have had in our family was when I saw my bf shoot himself. So I have no ammo on that line :D.

Jeff.....not even close to Tulsa! I saw that gun you were looking for again though :D. Took about hour and a half I think. It was really small in there. I did see one guy with a rifle slung over his back and asked Don about it. I guess the guy was there to sell it LOL. Other than that it was like a 72 hour waiting period for handguns and 24 for rifles (I think that was it). So no one with guns on their backs. :) Although Don, Melissa, and Chris were all carrying knives. I felt left out. Maybe I'll have to get me one of those :D.
 
Sandy, you've got mail. :)

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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
How about this one:

I have an uncle who lost a couple fingers to a snow blower. It got clogged with slush and he hit it on the side of the blower with a chunk of wood to rattle the slush out. It was in neutral, blades and wheels motionless, but he engine was running. A peice of wire that he didn't see got into the blades. When he hit it, the transmission kicked in and the wire in turn caught on the wood and then his hand. It took his right first two fingers off at the first knuckle. He was lucky that was all it got! :eek:

Guess you could say that evil snow blower was fishing! Now of course my uncle follows the common safety rule to turn a snow blower off if you have to clear the blade area.
 
I posted this (among other things) in an e-mail to Sandy but so others may benefit from my eloquent pros I'll post it here as well. ;)
Another arguement in our favor:
Ask if the automobile used by a drunk driver to kill an innocent family is evil. It is no more evil or responsible for evil than an automobile used to drive a family to church is responsible for their religious faith. Both are simply tools.......nothing more. Tools that may be used for either good or evil. However the gun may also be used to protect one from evil.

Sensop, glad to see you have finaly embraced the green smileys. :D :D :D

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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
MissD;
You are getting some very good input. I would like to add............since you are grossly outnumbered; learn the weaknesses of your individual relatives. Strike with knowledge and humor on your side and withdraw, allow time for each volly to sink in. Paraphrased from Mao Tse Tung's little red book on guerilla warefare. Good luck

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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev!." We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have communism."
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Strike with knowledge and humor on your side and withdraw, allow time for each volly to sink in.[/quote] C.R.Sam's got a point there!

Gunslinger: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Sensop, glad to see you have finaly embraced the green smileys.[/quote]
I have not! I'll have you know it was a sacrifice for a good cause! I am always at the service of a purty lady in need of help, even at my own discomfort. So don't go spreadin' no rumors!
 
My Father, Mother and Brother are anti-gun. It is like talking to a brick wall. I don't even bother anymore. Just don't mention it to them and things should be OK.

Fortunately my wife is progun and we are raising pro-gun kids - much to the consternaiton of my folks - hahahahahahahaha

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"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression.
In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains
seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all
must be most aware of change in the air - however slight -
lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
--Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas
 
MissD,
You could just about write your own ticket in Nashville:
"...nobody likes a gun but me-
I'm the black sheep of the family"

Seriously though, stand by what you believe in. People can be sincere about something- but they can be sincerely wrong.

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Hold your fire-
Keep it burning bright
Hold the flame
'til the dream ignites-
a spirit with a vision
Is a dream with a mission
-Music by Lee and Lifeson/Lyrics by Peart
 
Your mother sounds as though she hasn't thought about the topic too much and is probably running under the "guns only exist to kill people" logic. That's not a bad position to work from.

Almost everyone agrees that the police should carry guns. A simple argument is that the police carry guns WHY? To protect us. There aren't a whole heck of a lot of criminals stupid enough to attack the police directly. The police are acting on our hehalf to protect us. Your belief is that you can act on your own behalf and are "cutting out the middle man" especially because the police usually aren't there when a violent crime occurs, they're just there to clean up the mess. There is plenty of information and classes available so that you can safely own, use and carry a gun a safely as any police officer.

Always follow up with the core idea that a gun assures our protection against a corrupt government. We may not have one now, ahem, but if we get rid of this right now, and the government gets out of hand in 10, 20 or 30 years, we surely won't get it back.
 
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