Missing cartridge loops on Bonanza TV show

Hawg - thanks for posting the photo of your daughter's belt and holster - it's beautiful. I'll bet she was tickled pink when you gave it to her! :)
 
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Steve Mcqueen and Wanted Dead or Alive was it, his gun was a shortened Winchester with a saddle ring and the same stock set up as Nick Adams'. I used to watch both shows and always got them confused.
 
You're right Hawg. He was just a tall man. :rolleyes:


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His actual rifle at the NRA museum:

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Hawg and Rob

Hawg,

Good photo. Excellent.

Rob,

Steve McQueen's character was Josh Randall.

I always wondered at the choice of both Nick Adams as the Rebel and Steve McQueen in Wanted, Dead or Alive. Neither of them had established a persona as a tough guy and both of them (especially Adams) are a little too mousey looking to satisfy my ego driven tastes. McQueen developed a character later on but it had nothing to do with WDOA. Adams died too early.

Richard Boone, Robert Stack, John Russell, or Clint Walker...in my opinion would have been better choices if they were available for the job. I think John Russell was great in Pale Rider.
 
The Henry is more period correct but still a stretch placing the show in pre Civil War. The patent wasn't applied for until late 1860 and they really didn't hit the field in any quantity until 1862. Still pretty minor compared to what Hollywood usually does.
Leadcounsel, I would imagine there might be some discoloration but no serious damage. I would think it would a handy way to carry extra rounds while on horseback which would be the advantage.
 
The show evolved over the years and was set in Nevada which wasn't touched much by the late unpleasantness so it's easy to disregard the timeline.
 
It's actually according to how the leather was tanned to wether it will turn brass green or not, chrome tanned or vegetable tanned. Chrome tanning came around before the civil war and is much quicker than vegetable tanning and became much more popular and profitable and is mostly what you find being used by holster makers now days but the chemicals involved ((chromium)) react with the brass and cause the discoloration.
 
My El Paso Saddlery belts are vegetable tanned, and corrode the brass just fine. Even corroded nickel in one that held them for twenty or so years. Yes, the corrosion can get to be severe enough to damage the brass, but it takes a long time. I no longer store cases in my belts as I got tired of how it affected brass. If you don't plan to cycle the brass through every week or two, then I suggest keeping the cases out of the loops.
 
Not sure about pistol belts but I remember reading that canvass was very popular for rifle ammunition belts just because it didn't cause verdigris on brass cases.
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My daughters leather is top quality vegetable tanned and will turn them green if left long enough.

Not only that, but the green gets all over the leather - yuck! I tried once to tell my father in law that cartridge loops on his belt were a product of Hollywood, but about halfway in, I sort of got the feeling that it was akin to telling him that Saint John the Duke wore a hairpiece. I gave up.
 
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