Minuteman Project does not allow rifles
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Mike Irwin
Staff
They probably want to ensure that no one can make the conclusion that they're actually "hunting" illegals.
What about handguns?
What about handguns?
Lord_Nikon
New member
The website says they neither encourage nor discourage the carrying of a sidearm.
Personaly I would go with a shotgun. Then camp out on a hilltop and watch for illegals. If anyone asks what the shotgun is for, just say it's for rattlesnakes. It's a ligitimate reason for having the shotgun, right. 
If you DO happen to be attacked, you can just hold out until help arives. No sane person is going to try to get close to a guy with a shotgun and 00 Buckshot shells.
If you DO happen to be attacked, you can just hold out until help arives. No sane person is going to try to get close to a guy with a shotgun and 00 Buckshot shells.shooter429
Moderator
Why the focus on guns
I watched a news report tonight and over and over the reporters talked about guns and how horrible it is that poor illegals have to run the risk of being caught (or observed) by gunowners. Oh dread. Protesters angrily stated how no one has the right to just proclaim him/herself a minuteman and carry a gun. And it sounded like the official response was that they (minutemen) don't carry guns. Yikes.
Why even grant interviews or respond to the anti-gunners who parade behind a false pretext of representing some human rights cause while bashing the second amendment and the lawabiding minutemen? I think there has to be an armed presence (for defense). I cannot imagine that they would compromise safety to fit in with the leftist agenda. Of course, I cannot imagine that anyone should have to stand down when defending the country anyway.
Shooter429
I watched a news report tonight and over and over the reporters talked about guns and how horrible it is that poor illegals have to run the risk of being caught (or observed) by gunowners. Oh dread. Protesters angrily stated how no one has the right to just proclaim him/herself a minuteman and carry a gun. And it sounded like the official response was that they (minutemen) don't carry guns. Yikes.
Why even grant interviews or respond to the anti-gunners who parade behind a false pretext of representing some human rights cause while bashing the second amendment and the lawabiding minutemen? I think there has to be an armed presence (for defense). I cannot imagine that they would compromise safety to fit in with the leftist agenda. Of course, I cannot imagine that anyone should have to stand down when defending the country anyway.
Shooter429
DAVID NANCARROW
New member
It's probably a bad idea to be brandishing a rifle while you are out there, but I think it would be prudent to have one in your vehicle just in case. This issue is getting hotter, thanks to the spineless people on both sides of the aisle in Washington DC. A few, and IMO, too few are speaking up.
In the meantime, putting people out on the border is going to draw some undesireables at some point, and from what I'm reading in the news lately, it would not surprise me one bit to hear that gunfire on these people came from the US side.
In the meantime, putting people out on the border is going to draw some undesireables at some point, and from what I'm reading in the news lately, it would not surprise me one bit to hear that gunfire on these people came from the US side.
Destructo6
New member
Well, the coyotes, drug smugglers, and bandits often carry firearms. A pistol should do a pretty decent job of protecting your person, though.
shooter429
Moderator
It is an invading force
All too often, armed Mexican army units have crossed into U.S. territory and fired on Americans. They are actually invading in armored vehicles and opening up on LEOs, while smuggling weapons, terrorists and drugs.
President Fox thinks we need to just roll over and is sending his armed forces to escort illegals, who are, by definition, criminals anyway.
How is this not an attack?
What if we quit playing politics with our country's security and put a stop to this before it gets worse?
What if we responded to these people with force and stop them cold? Maybe the flood would slow to a trickle.
What if we amended our laws to be on OUR side and allowed every decent citizen to bring his/her 'yote" rifle and moved to the borders to repel the invading 'yotes?
What if we brought our troops and equipment back from the lost and wasted cause that is Iraq and redeploy them on the borders and coastlines to defend our land?
What if citizenship, and all the freebies, were not a gimme for every lazy, worthless criminal in the world? What if it was something that was necessary to reside here and where you had to earn it?
I think it is long past time to quit coddling the BGs that come like locusts, intent on destruction, from every corner of the world, and get serious about bringing our country back to her former glory when valor, freedom, and justice were more than political buzzwords.
Maybe we, the people, need to take back our country, and think about, perhaps, hunting coyotes and foxes.
Shooter429
All too often, armed Mexican army units have crossed into U.S. territory and fired on Americans. They are actually invading in armored vehicles and opening up on LEOs, while smuggling weapons, terrorists and drugs.
President Fox thinks we need to just roll over and is sending his armed forces to escort illegals, who are, by definition, criminals anyway.
How is this not an attack?
What if we quit playing politics with our country's security and put a stop to this before it gets worse?
What if we responded to these people with force and stop them cold? Maybe the flood would slow to a trickle.
What if we amended our laws to be on OUR side and allowed every decent citizen to bring his/her 'yote" rifle and moved to the borders to repel the invading 'yotes?
What if we brought our troops and equipment back from the lost and wasted cause that is Iraq and redeploy them on the borders and coastlines to defend our land?
What if citizenship, and all the freebies, were not a gimme for every lazy, worthless criminal in the world? What if it was something that was necessary to reside here and where you had to earn it?
I think it is long past time to quit coddling the BGs that come like locusts, intent on destruction, from every corner of the world, and get serious about bringing our country back to her former glory when valor, freedom, and justice were more than political buzzwords.
Maybe we, the people, need to take back our country, and think about, perhaps, hunting coyotes and foxes.
Shooter429
So let me get this straight:
Americans close to the southern border should have rifles with them to fight off Mexican armored military units?
BWaaahhhahahahaaha!!!!!!!! Think they'll win? What sort of rifle is best against a tank: AR or AK?
Shooter, do you actually take this kind of ludicrous thinking seriously? I'm reminded of the "knife to a gunfight" slogan. If there is actually a real danger of the kind of attack that requires rifles, you would have to be the world's biggest idiot to go down there in the first place.
The citizens watching the border thing is nice, but playing armed border guard is a recipe for disaster and bad press.
Americans close to the southern border should have rifles with them to fight off Mexican armored military units?
BWaaahhhahahahaaha!!!!!!!! Think they'll win? What sort of rifle is best against a tank: AR or AK?
Shooter, do you actually take this kind of ludicrous thinking seriously? I'm reminded of the "knife to a gunfight" slogan. If there is actually a real danger of the kind of attack that requires rifles, you would have to be the world's biggest idiot to go down there in the first place.
The citizens watching the border thing is nice, but playing armed border guard is a recipe for disaster and bad press.
shooter429
Moderator
Bad press?
I guess our country should just let it happen instead facing some bad press by left-wingers who want her to fall anyway. Bad press is not stopping them.
Look, obviously rifles are not going to do anything against a battle tank. That is not what we are talking about. According to reports there have been hummers and APCs-light armor and heavily armed guards. Yes, you can take out light armor with handheld weapons.Ever hear of the .50 BMG? And Mexicans will bleed if perforated. One can certainly take out vans and all the BGs in them with handheld rifles at hundreds to thousands of yards. If all you have is a pistol and a vest you gotta get within spitting distance of them or they to you and they do have machine guns.
Anyway, you miss the point. The government is not stepping up to the plate because of political expedience. It is endangering our citizens and Border patrol agents and something needs to be done.
The MM Project is not force on force, but rather an observe and report kind of organization. That being said, the bandits are heavily armed and they will shoot anyone in their way. We, as citizens should have the right and duty to defend our country.
And as far as you being afraid to stand up against an enemy for your country...well, I guess you and I are different in that regard.
Shooter429
I guess our country should just let it happen instead facing some bad press by left-wingers who want her to fall anyway. Bad press is not stopping them.
Look, obviously rifles are not going to do anything against a battle tank. That is not what we are talking about. According to reports there have been hummers and APCs-light armor and heavily armed guards. Yes, you can take out light armor with handheld weapons.Ever hear of the .50 BMG? And Mexicans will bleed if perforated. One can certainly take out vans and all the BGs in them with handheld rifles at hundreds to thousands of yards. If all you have is a pistol and a vest you gotta get within spitting distance of them or they to you and they do have machine guns.
Anyway, you miss the point. The government is not stepping up to the plate because of political expedience. It is endangering our citizens and Border patrol agents and something needs to be done.
The MM Project is not force on force, but rather an observe and report kind of organization. That being said, the bandits are heavily armed and they will shoot anyone in their way. We, as citizens should have the right and duty to defend our country.
And as far as you being afraid to stand up against an enemy for your country...well, I guess you and I are different in that regard.
Shooter429
Scott Conklin
New member
Sad that "bad press" is even something to be considered.
When did the Mexican invaders start bringing armor? As I understand it it's pickups and light APC's(the Mexican army doesn't exactly understand how to use anything more complex).
Anyway, the right rifle in the right hands is useful against an amazing number of things. Fortunately our country has managed to keep that in mind over the years... Too bad some seem to have forgotten.
When did the Mexican invaders start bringing armor? As I understand it it's pickups and light APC's(the Mexican army doesn't exactly understand how to use anything more complex).
Anyway, the right rifle in the right hands is useful against an amazing number of things. Fortunately our country has managed to keep that in mind over the years... Too bad some seem to have forgotten.
shooter429
Moderator
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You'd think frequent gun battles along the U.S.-Mexico border between federal agents and citizen border-monitoring groups on this side, and drug and people smugglers on the other side, would make the national headlines.
If you thought that, you'd be mistaken. Just ask Chris Simcox, owner of the Tombstone (Ariz.) Tumbleweed newspaper, and head of one such border group. He's trying to get the word out; few are listening and, apparently, that includes anyone in Washington.
In an e-mail to select correspondents last month, Simcox said there was "another" shootout very similar to others that have occurred with increasingly frequency along remote areas of the Arizona border – areas known to be frequented by drug and alien smugglers and elements of Mexican "authorities" (which often has included federal troops and police) that escort them to the border.
"Details are basically the same; shots fired, assailants get away, drugs seized," he writes. "The [Mexican] soldiers we captured on tape have been seen laying down suppression fire during the drug dealers' dash back across the border – this is not hyperbole – our guys are being fired upon from the other side of the border and they will not return fire. …"
"A high-speed car chase ended with Bisbee police, Border Patrol agents and a detail of the United States Marines coming under automatic weapons fire near the U.S./Mexico border two miles west of Naco, Ariz., on Tuesday morning, Feb. 16," reported Simcox. "Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Susan Herskovits confirmed on Wednesday that the agency is involved in the investigation, because it involves an assault on federal law-enforcement agents and involves gunfire from across the international boundary with Mexico."
On Feb. 19, says Simcox, "we had yet another incident involving automatic gunfire directed at our [law-enforcement] agents." While he says he wasn't close enough to confirm, it appeared that, at a distance, the law-enforcement "vehicles were full of bullet holes."
While none of these most recent gun battles has produced any casualties, that's not to say U.S. citizens and federal agents tasked with guarding our borders haven't been hurt or killed in this escalating border war. In 2002, U.S. Park Service Ranger Kris Eggle (pronounced egg-lee) was killed in a drug-related shooting (the perp used an AK-47). Other agents have been wounded, and American citizens captured or threatened.
Shooter429
WorldNetDaily's online store.
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
You'd think frequent gun battles along the U.S.-Mexico border between federal agents and citizen border-monitoring groups on this side, and drug and people smugglers on the other side, would make the national headlines.
If you thought that, you'd be mistaken. Just ask Chris Simcox, owner of the Tombstone (Ariz.) Tumbleweed newspaper, and head of one such border group. He's trying to get the word out; few are listening and, apparently, that includes anyone in Washington.
In an e-mail to select correspondents last month, Simcox said there was "another" shootout very similar to others that have occurred with increasingly frequency along remote areas of the Arizona border – areas known to be frequented by drug and alien smugglers and elements of Mexican "authorities" (which often has included federal troops and police) that escort them to the border.
"Details are basically the same; shots fired, assailants get away, drugs seized," he writes. "The [Mexican] soldiers we captured on tape have been seen laying down suppression fire during the drug dealers' dash back across the border – this is not hyperbole – our guys are being fired upon from the other side of the border and they will not return fire. …"
"A high-speed car chase ended with Bisbee police, Border Patrol agents and a detail of the United States Marines coming under automatic weapons fire near the U.S./Mexico border two miles west of Naco, Ariz., on Tuesday morning, Feb. 16," reported Simcox. "Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Susan Herskovits confirmed on Wednesday that the agency is involved in the investigation, because it involves an assault on federal law-enforcement agents and involves gunfire from across the international boundary with Mexico."
On Feb. 19, says Simcox, "we had yet another incident involving automatic gunfire directed at our [law-enforcement] agents." While he says he wasn't close enough to confirm, it appeared that, at a distance, the law-enforcement "vehicles were full of bullet holes."
While none of these most recent gun battles has produced any casualties, that's not to say U.S. citizens and federal agents tasked with guarding our borders haven't been hurt or killed in this escalating border war. In 2002, U.S. Park Service Ranger Kris Eggle (pronounced egg-lee) was killed in a drug-related shooting (the perp used an AK-47). Other agents have been wounded, and American citizens captured or threatened.
Shooter429
Right. With 12-20 million illegals here already, plus MS-13 and who knows who else coming across, and the Mexican Army coming in and firing on US citizens and LE, they're doing a bang-up job already!
They're not making the president look like anything, that's all on him. His constant fear-mongering about terrorists with nukes rings hollow when he won't even do what's necessary to guard our borders or get rid of illegals that are already here.
steelheart
Moderator
Bend over, folks
At some point, there will be bloodshed. Shortly thereafter, laws will be passed banning anything remotely resembling the Minuteman project.
Count on it.
There are millions of illegals coming in to our nation every year from Mexico. They don't pay taxes, yet they suck up every free dollar and service that We The Taxpayers are forced to provide for them by "The Government."
Hillary Clinton wants illegals to be able to vote for her. If that comes to pass, she will most likely win in '08, since she will play sugar daddy to buy their votes, all while sodomizing We The Taxpayers.
The American Sheeple have been getting "made love to" by The Government for so long that they don't even feel it any more. By now, The Sheeple can take a 3 ft. length of 2"x4" with little discomfort.
If Hillary gets elected, she will up the ante to a 4 ft. length of 4"x4"
fence post.
At some point, there will be bloodshed. Shortly thereafter, laws will be passed banning anything remotely resembling the Minuteman project.
Count on it.
There are millions of illegals coming in to our nation every year from Mexico. They don't pay taxes, yet they suck up every free dollar and service that We The Taxpayers are forced to provide for them by "The Government."
Hillary Clinton wants illegals to be able to vote for her. If that comes to pass, she will most likely win in '08, since she will play sugar daddy to buy their votes, all while sodomizing We The Taxpayers.
The American Sheeple have been getting "made love to" by The Government for so long that they don't even feel it any more. By now, The Sheeple can take a 3 ft. length of 2"x4" with little discomfort.
If Hillary gets elected, she will up the ante to a 4 ft. length of 4"x4"
fence post.
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