Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe the act of possessing any sort of firearm on one's property is comprehended under the laws pertaining to "carrying". Whether the act of possessing a firearm on one's own property is legal or not is determined by the statutes covering possession, an entirely different legal precept.
Minor son carrying pistol on my property
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You could always move to Idaho >
The young man in this story owns his own computer repair business...so, we toss work his way. There are some areas of this Country that still honor our Constitution....
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=10097
POST FALLS – Zach Doty typically wears a tie and dress shirt to church. But lately, a new accessory of his is raising alarm in Post Falls.
After turning 18 last month, the Post Falls teenager began strapping a loaded 9 mm Glock 19 handgun to his belt every day. He totes it in full view to Bible studies, the public library, city parks and neighborhood stores and on walks around town.
His 15-year-old brother, Stephen, has joined him, carrying a loaded Ruger .22-caliber rifle slung over his shoulder.
The brothers, who are home-schooled, say they're flexing their Second Amendment right, which allows citizens to bear arms. They say they're protecting themselves and others, deterring crime and making a statement about constitutional freedoms.
"If you don't exercise a right, eventually it will go away," Zach Doty said last week, a handgun tucked in a holster on his hip. "I'd like to raise people's awareness that it's a right, and I hope to encourage others to exercise that right."
The young man in this story owns his own computer repair business...so, we toss work his way. There are some areas of this Country that still honor our Constitution....
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=10097
POST FALLS – Zach Doty typically wears a tie and dress shirt to church. But lately, a new accessory of his is raising alarm in Post Falls.
After turning 18 last month, the Post Falls teenager began strapping a loaded 9 mm Glock 19 handgun to his belt every day. He totes it in full view to Bible studies, the public library, city parks and neighborhood stores and on walks around town.
His 15-year-old brother, Stephen, has joined him, carrying a loaded Ruger .22-caliber rifle slung over his shoulder.
The brothers, who are home-schooled, say they're flexing their Second Amendment right, which allows citizens to bear arms. They say they're protecting themselves and others, deterring crime and making a statement about constitutional freedoms.
"If you don't exercise a right, eventually it will go away," Zach Doty said last week, a handgun tucked in a holster on his hip. "I'd like to raise people's awareness that it's a right, and I hope to encourage others to exercise that right."
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The above is just about as much "legal advice" as anyone else on this thread, including me, gave. This is a discussion forum. Referencing some statutes and commenting upon them, at the same time not advising anyone to take any specific course of action (other than what's been said numerous times, "see a lawyer") isn't practicing law. It's having an academic discussion.
Ryan
The above is just about as much "legal advice" as anyone else on this thread, including me, gave. This is a discussion forum. Referencing some statutes and commenting upon them, at the same time not advising anyone to take any specific course of action (other than what's been said numerous times, "see a lawyer") isn't practicing law. It's having an academic discussion.
Ryan
You need to read the MI code carefully, find out as to what "exceptions" there are to "can an under-18 year old minor carry".
In WA state, what you are proposing would be perfectly legal, OC or CC, as long as he is on your property. RCW 9.41.042 has a whole list of "exceptions" for "children" (aka minors) and when and how they can carry on and off your own property.
I would be very comfortable with whatever "exceptions" MI has in their law for minors, and at the most would only inform the Chief of Police what you plan to do pursent to MI law XXX.XXX.XXX if you think he might complain.
I have found that when you cite a specific law, they generally do not have a problem if you have the specific law to back your action up.
In WA state, what you are proposing would be perfectly legal, OC or CC, as long as he is on your property. RCW 9.41.042 has a whole list of "exceptions" for "children" (aka minors) and when and how they can carry on and off your own property.
I would be very comfortable with whatever "exceptions" MI has in their law for minors, and at the most would only inform the Chief of Police what you plan to do pursent to MI law XXX.XXX.XXX if you think he might complain.
I have found that when you cite a specific law, they generally do not have a problem if you have the specific law to back your action up.
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Let's keep in mind that the "property" under discussion is not Colvin's residence. It is his place of business. As such, it is different from his residence, where people enter by invitation only. He operates a retail business, which by definition is open to the public.
I do not pretend to have read the laws of all states. The laws of many states allow an owner of a business to carry a firearm at his "place of business" -- note, NOT "place of employment."
I respectfully suggest that the OP really needs to ask a lawyer in his state.
I do not pretend to have read the laws of all states. The laws of many states allow an owner of a business to carry a firearm at his "place of business" -- note, NOT "place of employment."
I respectfully suggest that the OP really needs to ask a lawyer in his state.
Your home or your business is teated as the same thing here. "Real property" is lands and buildings... RCW 9.41.042(7) On real property under the control of his or her parent, other relative, or legal guardian and who has the permission of the parent or legal guardian to possess a firearm.
RCW 9.41.042 specifically addresses "children" (under 18) and the exceptions to where they can possess/carry/use "a firearm".
RCW 9.41.042(8) specifically addresses for purposes of self defence in a residence.
RCW 9.41.042 specifically addresses "children" (under 18) and the exceptions to where they can possess/carry/use "a firearm".
RCW 9.41.042(8) specifically addresses for purposes of self defence in a residence.