Mini-14 Full Auto

Bushwhacker

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Afriend of mine said that a Mini-14 can be converted to full auto ,can it?
also does any one know of a "drum magazine for the mini-14" What about a bull bbl?

[This message has been edited by FLYERM14 (edited 12-21-98).]
 
There are legal ACC556's (auto version of Mini14) on the market. Any currently manufactured auto Mini-14 would not be available for civilian, non-dealer ownership.

I don't know for sure, but I believe that M.W.G. may have made a 90 round drum mag for the Mini-14. The AR versions were seen in one of the Batman movies on some cheesy flourescent Short barreled AR mock-ups.
 
A little digression first on full auto Mini14s. While based on the Ruger Mini14, many parts from the AC556 are not interchangeable with the Ruger Mini14. For one thing, the receiver of the AC556 is different from that of the Mini14. Besides the obvious cutouts for the selector switch, receiver of the AC556 is slightly longer. There are a few other parts on the AC556 (trigger, secondary sear, trigger housing to name a few) which also won't fit or work with Mini14 parts.

Concerning converting a Mini14 to full auto, I believe it can be done. Paladin Press sells a book which I've studied and the suggested modifications are very similar that of the AC556, sans the three shot burst feature of the AC556. Modification requires some drilling & tapping on the receiver (and even without the full auto parts installed, is easily recognized by a trained LEO as a converted firearm), fabrication of a rocker arm (trip lever for link) and a few other parts. Since it's illegal to convert anything to selective fire unless its for the military, law enforcement or for export, it is better to follow the legal channel and purchase a real AC556 from a Class III dealer.

Concerning the plastic 90 round drums from MWG, they work. One would think that because of the design, the balance of the Mini would be thrown off. While it is appreciably heavier, it's not lopsided at all. It works, is fun, but don't shoot too fast unless you're willing to send it back to Ruger for rebarrelling.

Finally, Heavy Barrels from the factory. I remember seeing the heavier Mini30 barrels bored smaller for the .223 when I was at the factory in 1996. Bill Ruger wanted to make his Mini14 more accurate and sent one gun to TX for accurizing. The engineers at Ruger studied the modifications and found them to be cost prohibitive for production and from a sales prospective, difficult to recover costs (the modified gun had a heavy varmint barrel, trigger work, glass bedded action and probably some other things which I'm not aware of). As an interim, a batch of stainless Mini14s with the heavier Mini30 barrels were made. While I was told that all new Mini14s would have these heavier barrels, I haven't followed up on it and it's been two years now. As you know, the heavier barrel would flex less due to heat warpage.

I was talking to the assembler at the factory who told me that he could get the barrels to shoot 2" MOA by mere straightening. After the barrels and receivers are assembled, they are placed on a jig which measures the straightness of the barrel and receiver. If it is over .004", he places the assembly into another jig to which an arbor press is attached, and tweaks the barrel. The assembly is then remounted onto the first jig and measured again. When he gets it to within factory specs (which should give 4" at 100 yards), the assembly is placed on the rack and another is tested. Mind you, a lot of other assemblers contribute to building the Mini14 and if they tweak it, his work is ruined.

4v50

[This message has been edited by 4V50 Gary (edited 12-22-98).]
 
I've owned several mini-14's and after reading the conversion plans believe yu're better off with a factory hose machine! However if you lighten the trigger to 2lbs and hold the gun just right the volume of fire approaches 10 rounds per second. also 2 shot drop-in sears also can be very exciting! Bull barrels are recomended(600$) A+B DOW, in Florida does a nice job!Good luck!P.S. With a handload I've achieved one MOA!
 
I am new to this forum, and looking for a little info. All of these posts were pre-sunset of the clinton ban. Is it now legal to manufacture a full auto and then register it? I currently have a mini-14 and would like to follow the books to convert it to select fire, but don't want to unknowingly violate the law.
 
As far as I know, You have to contact the BATF and go through the paperwork before converting it. You cannot convert a firearm to full auto and then have it registered.
 
I am new to this forum, and looking for a little info. All of these posts were pre-sunset of the clinton ban. Is it now legal to manufacture a full auto and then register it? I currently have a mini-14 and would like to follow the books to convert it to select fire, but don't want to unknowingly violate the law.

The 1994 AWB had nothing to do with full auto weapons. Only a licensed 07FFL/SOT can manufacture a full auto, and even then it can only be sold to another FFL/SOT with a law enforcenemt demonstration request letter. Additionally, an individual with specific permission from the Secretary of the Treasury can manufacture full auto weapons but only for purposes of sale to the US government.

If you want a full auto, you have to buy one that was made and registered prior to May 19, 1986.
 
I still kick myself in the butt for passing on a transferrable AC556 offered to me in the early 80s for $500. :mad:
 
Auto mini 14

A full auto model is available from Ruger for Government / Police purchase. This featured in a George Peppard show a few years ago called 'the A team'.

I have seen them wearing 30 round box mags that can be taped together like AK mags.
 
As Rob pointed out, the full auto model of the Mini-14 is the ACC-556. Ruger also makes a short (13") barreled version, and you can get them in either stainless or blue finish, full wood or side-folding metal stock. The ones I've shot are fun, but I'd much prefer an M16 for serious social work. They're not terribly accurate and the recoil seems sharp as compared to a similarly outfitted M16. The short barreled ACC's with a folding stock do, however, make for a nice compact package with the factory Ruger 20rd mags. Law enforcement/dealer price for a post sample ACC is about $500-700. A transferable ACC-556 (legal for civilian possession & use) currently runs about $6000.
 
PsychoSword

What was the price on it? Says sold pending funds, just wondering what he wanted for it.

I think that one was $7k.

Here's another he's got listed for $6750. http://www.jbarms.citymax.com/catalog/item/871198/892804.htm

If you're interested, best thing to do is to call Howard at JB Arms (610-798-0200) and see what he's got in stock. Howard does a pretty good business and his inventory changes pretty quick - his website is probably a bit behind. I've done business with a lot of C3 dealers in Pennsylvania, but I now use Howard almost exclusively for all my gun purchases (both semis and full-autos); he's a great guy to deal with.
 
Hello, I am brand new to the site, just a few minuites ago. In reguards to all this fuss about a "Full Auto" mini-14; i have a question. What would happen if you just removed the secondary sear all together? I've been sitting here cleaning my rifle and studing how the triger system functions and it seems to me that that would do the trick. P.S. semi is better for control, I can squeeze off as many as I would imagine I"ll ever need. (no combat in my future):confused:
 
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