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The point of this thread is that we have a magical thing I haven't seen posted, if I missed it, I'm sorry.
ELECTORAL COLLEGE
I forget whether Madison or one of the other authors of The Federalist wrote it, so I'll paraphrase liberally. The average person is too mis-/uninformed about politics and politicians' actual stance on issues to make a decision for him/herself about who runs the country. That was part of the many compromises that led to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, you can read about in Miracle at Philadelphia by Catherin Drinker Bowen, IIRC.
 
Kinda funny to think that even though the people are telling them what we want the electoral college may vote for what in their minds is best for the country. They might put hillary in because she has more experience in whitehouse politics but they may remember her screaming and rule her out. Or they might put Rudi in because they think a new face would help things onto a different track. Chances are they are not going to let an independent into the whitehouse who does not have any experience in politics.
 
Nor if you're comprehending the fact that sometimes people word things improperly.
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The point isn’t what how you would like to revise his comment, it’s what he actually said. And we understand that sometimes people don’t say what we mean. What you’re not understanding is that this is plainly not one of those times. People can mispronounce “nuclear” inadvertently, or even habitually, but nobody accidentally takes credit for something they didn’t do.

instead of rebutting the original line and staying on the subject of bad public speaking you walk out to left field
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My point was that there are much worse things than bad public speaking. And, you would be right, I would have been changing the subject, except that I thought you were already changing the subject. I had to go back and reread your comments before I realized that you were actually trying to equate Bush’s mispronunciations and occasional malapropism with algore’s blatantly dishonest comment.

Good luck with that one.
 
Iraq was never our responsibility to begin with.
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Uh... right! :rolleyes:

If the guy across the street is hurting people around the neighborhood...

Or if he is a known sex offender... or child molester...

Or if he's beating another neighbor to death... or his own children and wife...

No doubt, it would be an insult to dial 9-1-1 and send the police to help...

They would probably arrive too late anyway.

And what the hell... "it was never our responsibility to begin with".

And the guy on the next block over? He doesn't count...

He's somebody else's neighbor...
 
algore’s blatantly dishonest comment.
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To be a dishonest comment would imply that he was actually trying to get people to believe that he created the internet.

Is that what you genuinely believe he was attempting to do? Seriously?
 
Uh... right!

If the guy across the street is hurting people around the neighborhood...

Or if he is a known sex offender... or child molester...

Or if he's beating another neighbor to death... or his own children and wife...

No doubt, it would be an insult to dial 9-1-1 and send the police to help...

They would probably arrive too late anyway.

And what the hell... "it was never our responsibility to begin with".

And the guy on the next block over? He doesn't count...

He's somebody else's neighbor...
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yeah, and if the guy across the street has a stash of dangerous weapons and is forcing his kids to believe in fairy tales all the while dumping sewage on his neighbor's lawn and spitting on the homeless man on the corner then we oughta do something! :mad:


:rolleyes: it's so much easier on this side of the fence, isn't it? I doubt you'd be perfectly ok with the EU, UN, China and the rest of the world coming here and "liberating" us from the evils of capitalism, christianity and guns. but you go ahead an pretend that our way of life must be pushed on everyone else because "might makes right"
 
Is that what you genuinely believe he was attempting to do? Seriously?
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Wasn't that what the man claimed? doesn't matter to me really..

My take on being informed is somewhat different than where this thread has gone. I think every candidate should be given a list of say 100 questions that he should answer to be considered. How he feels and or will vote on this or that then we the people that place that person into his position of power will think and vote as much as we the people that voted for him would..Questions that are the 100 most important to the people he is to represent.

I just hate it when some politician says' What the people want is,,,,," I am watching the tube and thinking geee I didn't realize that was what I wanted. I kinda thought I wanted it different than that.

Most of what I see in political races is some jerk spouting off a lot of BS he can't get accomplished in the first place, and is then not held accountable after elected.

"What the people need/want is yada yada yada",,, hows he know? were we the people asked? did he pole those he intends to represent? Or does this please his sponsors? I amastopnow...
 
Am I really the first moderator to have read this thread? Apparently...

This thread has long ago left the original theme. Further, the thread is littered with ad hominems and downright rudeness. Intelligent debate (on whatever the topic du jour was) left the room ages ago.

What really bothers me, is that no one was even troubled enough by all of this to smack the "Report Post" button!

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